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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Warp. on 2005-09-08 at 00:19:50
I Find it kinda weird That Religion. Religion is want sttarted war. if you think about it back in that days ppl fought over Religion, Christians Mormans, Cathlics Akll started war. because Of The Sesire to preech is what stared all this madness. Religion is suppose to bring the world to peace yet its tearing peace away
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-09-08 at 00:24:30
This is not always true. Wars have been started for different reasons periodically throughout history. Religon does play an important role, however, since religon is strongly linked to a culture.

However, if you look at the recent history, quite a bit was started over economic elignment-- Cuban Missle Crisis, The Cold War, etc. WWI was started over sore politics, and wasn't fully resolved until the end of world war two. It could even be argued it has not been resolved.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-09-08 at 00:35:59
You could say religion has cuased some wars, but what are wars anyway? People have been fighting each other for thousands of years, even before religion, so when does their fighting become a war? very complex subject...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-09-08 at 12:02:57
QUOTE(Magical-Vanilla @ Sep 7 2005, 09:19 PM)
I Find it kinda weird That Religion. Religion is want sttarted war. if you think about it back in that days ppl fought over Religion, Christians Mormans, Cathlics Akll started war. because Of The Sesire to preech is what stared all this madness. Religion is suppose to bring the world to peace yet its tearing peace away
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LDS (Mormons are the ones that don't follow their religion like they say they do) have never started a war. Either have Cathlics (Maybe the Spanish Inquisition, but that wasn't a war) The only war I know of, were the Crusades, and those were started by Christians.

Religion isn't supposed to bring the world together. It creates basic morals that everyone can follow. And then they make up very stupid rules saying, "If you don't do this you won't go to heaven."

God should smite these :censored:ers because as long as you believe in him, and don't murder anyone, you're going to heaven.

And in response to Chris: War is when a NATION battles another. People bicker and fight between eachother, but it doesn't break out into war until two NATIONS duke it out.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2005-09-08 at 15:28:46
QUOTE(S.T.A.R.S-Chris @ Sep 8 2005, 04:35 AM)
You could say religion has cuased some wars, but what are wars anyway? People have been fighting each other for thousands of years, even before religion, so when does their fighting become a war?  very complex subject...
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Religion has always existed as a belief system; it isn't some modern phenomenon.

Fighting becomes an official war when one country declares its intention to march into and occupy the land of another.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Fronter on 2005-09-08 at 16:34:42
Religion tends to be a factor in the Middle East a lot, but those wars tended to be a long time ago, now wars are declared for better reasons.

Fighting a war because of a religon is not a very good reason (Unless the religion is like a major cult). Religion tends to control people to do what they want, and that is how some of the old wars started, because of the Extremists of religion.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-09-08 at 17:20:50

You could say the original wars were between cavemen over hunting grounds and such. No religion involved.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-09-08 at 18:21:56
There have been countless tribal wars over religion. When people used to worship the river spirit, or the sky spirit, and/or pray to certain idols back in tribal days, (Some still do this to this day) they would fight another tribe for being evil because they believed the other tripe worshiped the wrong, or evil spirits. Or because they're cheiftian or druid had vision about something which then caused the war.

Sometimes, religion is not what starts it. It's just a way to simply make people do what they're told. Like in Europe. A King would say that god elected him to be king. Like it was the divine will of god. Now you must obey him, and if you question him, off with your head. Oligarchic/Fascist type parties and religion have always gone really well together. They don't want people asking too many questions. I mean, look at Socrates.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-09-09 at 00:09:47
World war one started becuase of a Leader of one country being assasinnated or something like that. Religion is suppose to help enlighten people with morals and etc.... but there are always some people who take it too far..

Sort of like video games, you may like a game and play it for a few hours, but there are always those few people who play it WAY to much and take it WAY to seriously and it becomes an obsession to them.

"there is no spoone" - the matricks

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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2005-09-09 at 00:47:01
ww1 started when the archduke ferdinand was assassinated in i believe austria. Austria blamed serbia and then everyone allied with someone and fought.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-09-09 at 10:53:20
Good job remembering history happy.gif

Take the Gulf War for another example over bad politics.

The reason the Gulf War started was because Hussain invaded Quwait. Now. The American people have been tought to believe that Hussain invaded Quwait to get oil. Now why would he want to do that when he has PLENTY of oil in his own country? Many people don't believe me when I tell them this, but the reason is because Quwait found a way to drill oil diagnolly, so they drilled diagnolly into Iraq, and was stealing their Oil.

Bad, and stupid politics.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2005-09-09 at 11:32:32
QUOTE(Euro @ Sep 9 2005, 04:47 AM)
ww1 started when the archduke ferdinand was assassinated in i believe austria. Austria blamed serbia and then everyone allied with someone and fought.
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Here's a summary of how the First World War started:

The Archduke of the Austro-Hungarian Empire is shot by a Serb. He dies from blood loss because he was sewn into his dress suit.

Austria-Hungary: 'One of your people assassinated a member of our royalty. Accede to these demands of annexation or we will declare war and take your country by force.'

Serbia: 'What? We didn't condone the killing - the assassin was a random psycho! We cannot accept your demands'

Austria-Hungary: 'Fine - we'll just invade you instead. You're a threat anyway.'

*Austro-Hungarian Empire declares war on Serbia*

Russia: 'Um, you can't do that - we guaranteed Serbia's independence, remember?'

*Russia begins to mobilise its sizable army with the intention of declaring war on Austria-Hungary.*

Austria-Hungary: 'Germany, help us!'

Germany: 'Sure. Haha, Russia - you just got pwned.'

*Germany and Austria-Hungary declare war on Russia*

Russia: 'Surely the French will help us?'

France: 'Damn, I forgot we were allied with the Russians.'

*France declares war on Austria-Hungary and Germany*

Britain: 'Oh, blam.'

In reality, it was a war about keeping the 'Great Powers' of Europe in balance, but it turned into a total bloodbath.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-09-09 at 11:40:50
Well put.

Weren't the English part of it though?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dr.Shotgun on 2005-09-09 at 19:22:37
Third World War:

World: America sucks!, lets kill it and split the loot!

America: Ohhh censored.gif.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-09-09 at 21:53:53
QUOTE(Dr.Shotgun @ Sep 9 2005, 06:22 PM)
Third World War:

World: America sucks!, lets kill it and split the loot!

America: Ohhh censored.gif.
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Thats....Hilarious!!!!!

War these days is just an extension of greed. A government wants a certain resource *cough*oil*cough* and they take it. We should kill the greedy wonderful friends.
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