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Report, edit, etc...Posted by DameDaSnipa. on 2005-09-12 at 20:03:47
Well Hiroshima we bomb even though it had inoccent people but in iraq all the citizens support terrism and kids are killing soilder with guns and rifles
Report, edit, etc...Posted by InFeReAl_KiLlA on 2005-09-12 at 20:14:06
But you have to consider, the Hiroshima and the Nagasaki bombing was happening because every Japanese, (or so I believe), were supporting the war, and was even taking part of the war, some way or another, like, making weapons and stuff... In Iraq (why are we even in there?!) , there are civilians, but they aren't all in a way, supporting the terrorist. In my opinion, I think if Iraq gets WAY out of control, we should consider dropping a nuke... Only if it is out of control, and can not be handled by anything else...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.ZeALoT.oO on 2005-09-12 at 20:16:11
I vote no. Iraq isnt the problem in my opinion, its the entire middle east region thats needs it.
Plus we could get their oil free after we've gotten rid of them.

^that is if we did nuke anyone.
I don't think nuking someone is smart at all cuz other countries will get angry and retaliate and soon it will end up like that funny movie "the end of the world" or w/e its called.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Caboose on 2005-09-12 at 20:17:20
No, absolutely not. We already captured the country and it would be pointless to kill thousands of innocent people just to find a couple terrorists...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-09-12 at 20:18:31
So we can repair it all when were done blowing it up, like last time? No.

Anyway, we can't kill all of those innocent people, or we'll start getting a bad reputation.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Caboose on 2005-09-12 at 20:22:30
Start!? Ahahaha... Anyways, we would blow up the oil we invaded the country for...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2005-09-12 at 20:23:19
No we shouldn't bomb them we only bombed Japan because they don't give up in combat ... according to the code of samurai (i think ) they aren't alowd to give up or they are supposed to kill them selves... to regain their respect..

(except they did make one exception because Japan wouldnt be around if they didnt surrender)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-09-13 at 02:30:56
no, thats just dumb, not all iraqis support terrorism
Report, edit, etc...Posted by yeow on 2005-09-13 at 07:52:23
If we invaded Japan, that would of cost millions of U.S. Lives, the Japanese were training their civilians to fight back. So I think the bombinb was sorta justified by that. But On bombing Iraq, No, considering look who is in the middle of it and the U.S. would probably get more crap from somewhere..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Slyence on 2005-09-13 at 08:01:46
For the inocent people.. If we do bomb them. There just going to grow up to be a terrorist anyway.

But that doesn't give us the right to bomb them. Maybe if they were going to threaten us a little more about launching Chemical Weapons towards the united states.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-09-13 at 10:49:48
QUOTE(DameDaSnipa. @ Sep 12 2005, 05:03 PM)
Well Hiroshima we bomb even though it had inoccent people but in iraq all the citizens support terrism and kids are killing soilder with guns and rifles
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Where in the hell do you get your information?

If we was to bomb Iraq "just like we did with Japan", the whole world would be against us because we broke the treaty saying no nuclear weapons.

As I read through this, I have discovered the true arogence of the members here. The only two members I agree with, even though I hate to admit agreeing with one of them (wink.gif), is Caboose and Stars.

Caboose, has an excelent point. Don't harm innocents because you're trying to find a couple of retards, and Chris has the other point, not all Iraqis support terrorism.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Aikanaro on 2005-09-13 at 16:06:23
QUOTE(Slyence @ Sep 13 2005, 07:01 AM)
For the inocent people.. If we do bomb them. There just going to grow up to be a terrorist anyway.

But that doesn't give us the right to bomb them. Maybe if they were going to threaten us a little more about launching Chemical Weapons towards the united states.
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So your saying, If the U.s bombs the Inocent people, they might grow up to be terrorists? Thats what your saying right? Terrorist for holding a Grudge against the U.s?! For having being bombed, And possibly..Now they hate the U.s Which makes them a terrorist right? I think it would be the other way around, 'For the inocent people.. If we do bomb them.", I think The united states would be terrorists for doing such a horrible thing. Personally, I think Bush and his administration are more likely to be the biggest Threats/Terrorists in this world at the moment. It so happens that We've reached the oil Peak where Prices will start to higher, And that the United States attacked Iraq in particular because it had Chemical weapons?! The United States itself has the most nukes in the world and has proved itself more offensive than any other country. Above all that, Howcome Iraq was hand picked among all the rest of the countries who have Nukes and *CONFIRMED* Aswell.

Bush and his administration are the terrorists.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Vibrator on 2005-09-13 at 16:23:38
QUOTE(InFeReAl_KiLlA @ Sep 12 2005, 08:14 PM)
But you have to consider, the Hiroshima and the Nagasaki bombing was happening because every Japanese, (or so I believe), were supporting the war, and was even taking part of the war, some way or another, like, making weapons and stuff... In Iraq (why are we even in there?!) , there are civilians, but they aren't all in a way, supporting the terrorist. In my opinion, I think if Iraq gets WAY out of control, we should consider dropping a nuke... Only if it is out of control, and can not be handled by anything else...
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You do realise that even if you drop an atomic bomb on people who you think "deserve" it, the reprocussions will last for a very long time well after the war is over.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by yeow on 2005-09-13 at 16:28:25
Right, Bush's Administration jumped on those planes and crashed them into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, their own building.

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Terrorist for holding a Grudge against the U.s?!

Yes, most other countries hate the U.S. for all their freedom that they can't have, and how our lives are most likely better than theirs.

Think about this. The Major city closest to you is hit by a nuclear weapon from, oh, lets say Russia. Your way of life is completely changed, your house destroyed, family and friends killed, and you have to move away. Would you hate Russia?

Then say the U.S. declares war on Russia and the U.S. looses and Russia invades and occupys the U.S. Would you not like to attack the Russians and rebel against them? There's bound to be radicals in those rebelers who might eventually turn to Terrorist , or use Terrorist type ways to strike back against Russia.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Vibrator on 2005-09-13 at 16:32:43
Terrorism is only viewed as such by those being attacked, for those attacking its viewed as survival (of culture, race, etc...).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Aikanaro on 2005-09-13 at 16:34:40
QUOTE(yeow @ Sep 13 2005, 03:28 PM)
Right, Bush's Administration jumped on those planes and crashed them into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, their own building.
Yes, most other countries hate the U.S. for all their freedom that they can't have, and how our lives are most likely better than theirs.

Think about this. The Major city closest to you is hit by a nuclear weapon from, oh, lets say Russia. Your way of life is completely changed, your house destroyed, family and friends killed, and you have to move away. Would you hate Russia?

Then say the U.S. declares war on Russia and the U.S. looses and Russia invades and occupys the U.S. Would you not like to attack the Russians and rebel against them? There's bound to be radicals in those rebelers who might eventually turn to Terrorist , or use Terrorist type ways to strike back against Russia.
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You see Yeow, Theres a problem with me and you arguing this, because we have different opinion on 9/11. I Infact, DO believe it was all planned by the Bush Administration and executed by them to find means of getting Political gain and more support for war. Its been done in the past, Even if its *Their* building. History has proved that this sort of act has been done to create an *Enemy* That needs to be destroyed quickly before it destroys them.
I'm not going to argue you here about 9/11, I've done it in the past. Believe what you want to believe up to this point. Unless someone else has something to add.

Oh and the famous Ignorant sentence usually used: "Yes, most other countries hate the U.S. for all their freedom that they can't have, and how our lives are most likely better than theirs." =/.

Edit: "Think about this. The Major city closest to you is hit by a nuclear weapon from, oh, lets say Russia. Your way of life is completely changed, your house destroyed, family and friends killed, and you have to move away. Would you hate Russia?" I would definatly hate Russia for this, But not the people inside, But rather the Administration. Of course, It all depends Why Russia did this, In what circumstances and the whole situation basicly. Like, If you meant that Russia Invaded My city/country, I would reinform myself about the reasons and the intention and the whole story. Not from the media though, They'll only tell you what you want to hear. Anyhow, A nuke is totally different. Using a nuke on a country, despite the fact it could be the Country thats caused the most harm to The whole world, It is no way to deal with things. By Nuking, you don't only get rid of the country, but you also get rid of the millions of lives that perhaps..Didn't support what their country was doing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Vibrator on 2005-09-13 at 16:40:01
Wow, your a huge conspiracy nut, the Bush Administration has lost a lot more money the the small political gain is worth, and most of that gain is gone now anway. So try not to talk about your crazy conspiracies with no proof.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by yeow on 2005-09-13 at 16:41:32
I highly doubt that Bush would want to kill his own people, but where and what time in history has a Ruler of a country attacked his own country to gain support for a war? I've never heard of such thing..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Aikanaro on 2005-09-13 at 16:43:16
QUOTE(Temp @ Sep 13 2005, 03:40 PM)
Wow, your a huge conspiracy nut, the Bush Administration has lost a lot more money the the small political gain is worth, and most of that gain is gone now anway. So try not to talk about your crazy conspiracies with no proof.
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Please, Don't start talking *anything* For the sake of replying, will you? Please? Theres lot of proof, Infact, Theres alot of proof on both sides of the story. One side was created by the Media/Bush Administration and the other one is from Alternate Sources that researched for an other solution. Oh, and they've got proof. Instead of saying about just quite *Anything*, If your willing to discuss it with me, Research the internet, Google is an easy tool, Really it is. Just go on Google Search and trust me..It will help you tons on getting informed.

Just incase: www.google.com
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-09-13 at 16:44:43
what kind of bomb are we talking about? Don't use a nuke or an A-bomb, use one that will be more swift, and not leave as much radiation... Hydrogen bomb.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by yeow on 2005-09-13 at 16:48:07
QUOTE(Aikanaro @ Sep 13 2005, 03:43 PM)
Please, Don't start talking anything now will you? Please? Theres lot of proof, Infact, Theres alot of proof on both sides of the story. One side was created by the Media/Bush Administration and the other one is from Alternate Sources that researched for an other solution. Oh, and they've got proof. Instead of saying about *Anything*, If your willing to discuss it with me, Research the internet, Google is an easy tool, Really it is. Just go on Google Search and trust me..It will help you tons on getting informed.
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Uh, maybe by more Conspiracy Nuts?

QUOTE(Syphon @ Sep 13 2005, 03:44 PM)
what kind of bomb are we talking about? Don't use a nuke or an A-bomb, use one that will be more swift, and not leave as much radiation... Hydrogen bomb.
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I honestly don't think they would give a care if they used either one, they both cause alot of damage.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-09-13 at 16:51:00
QUOTE(yeow @ Sep 13 2005, 02:48 PM)
Uh, maybe by more Conspiracy Nuts?
I honestly don't think they would give a care if they used either one, they both cause alot of damage.
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I ment that unless they wanted backlash years from now by lukemia give it quick with a hydrogen bomb.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Aikanaro on 2005-09-13 at 16:58:08
QUOTE(yeow @ Sep 13 2005, 03:48 PM)
Uh, maybe by more Conspiracy Nuts?
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You know man, I won't try to change your mind on this forcibly. But its so sad to see how all of you Just close your mind so shut by Calling someone who says Otherwise "Conspiracy Nuts". If you can't find an other argument to counter what they may have to say, Then its just pointless. Its clear you will not care to the slightest fact they might mention, you just won't believe anything. Like, I don't care if the people who present the Other side of 9/11 have been in a Mental Institute or Have had very big problems in their life. What you should be looking for is what they have to say. If they have no proof whatsoever, such as facts and historical documents and such. Then ok, It may be all made up. Would be rediculous to only believe on their word. But when they start showing you Proof, And facts that actually did happen. Its just so lame to refuse to take in anything and maybe learn a bit. Seriously man, Maybe a Conspiracy nut, but maybe his information has much proof. Its just so weak to call someone A Consipiracy nut because they Choose to see something in an other point of view than the one your fed by the Media and the Bush Administration.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by The_Shattered_moose on 2005-09-13 at 17:00:26
What the hell are you thinking, BOMB A WHOLE COUNTRY TO GET ABOUT 300 PEOPLE? How many innocents would we kill there, maybe several hundred thousand? I just don't understand how you could even CONSIDER doing something like bombing a whole country to get rid of a few insurgents, the vast majority of Iraquis arn't out in arms shooting our forces, we'd have to be led by someone who was truely moronic to do something so senslessly violent and idiotic. Plus, if we were to bomb a whole nation, I think pretty much the entire world would despise us, not just hate us, despise us. Consider this, here in America, we no doubt have several terrorists, following your logic, doesn't that mean that we should bomb ourselves too, after all, there are probably a handful of terrorists here.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by yeow on 2005-09-13 at 18:44:01
So you say your going to believe a bunch of random people out on the internet somewhere who created/have proof of some conspiracy story, and they just post it out on the internet? Honestly, the media is the only way your ever going to get SEMI-Credible news. I do believe that the Media/Bush Administration lie about stuff, but how else are you going to get information up in the goverment? I'd rather believe the Media than a bunch of people on the internet who believe they have proof from most likely Media-Based Sources.
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