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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Slyence on 2005-09-14 at 22:16:37
The other day at the theater,Me and my friends some how got into a discussion about the United Nations. It basically moved into a debate about weather or not the UN is useful or useles, and weather it needs to be reformed or not. (By reformed, redone, new policies and so on)

I am kinda in the middle. They have acted well in many situations as well as kind of sat back in many other situations. But basically what do you guys think? and is there any other major points that could swing an opinion to either side?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-09-14 at 22:17:12

Absolutely useless.
America ends up funding like 95% of everything they do.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-09-14 at 22:32:15
Take into note:

WWII - Soldiers were naturally kind to each other, partied with each other during treaties, didn't kill the wounded, didn't shoot civilians.

Now - Treaty? Great time for a car bombing or artillery strike, eh? Wounded? *bam* Sure he ain't dead? Civilian? No, no, that's an Iraq. They're all terrorists, remember?

Difference? No United Nations back in WWII

God I hate America
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-09-14 at 22:34:16

umm... WW2: they used mustard gas.
Now: Shrapnel.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-09-14 at 23:16:32
Didn't quite catch whether that was saying WWII was better or worse...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-09-14 at 23:17:29

Well, neither really. They kill eachother with whatever weapons they can get.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-09-14 at 23:24:05
WW1 was the war where the soldiers were friends.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-09-14 at 23:28:29
I could have gotten mixed up, but I think they were friendly in both wars.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-09-15 at 01:45:25
The U.N. was useful until America said "Screw the UN! We do what we want!"
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-09-15 at 04:28:06
QUOTE(Shapechanger @ Sep 14 2005, 06:32 PM)
Take into note:

WWII - Soldiers were naturally kind to each other, partied with each other during treaties, didn't kill the wounded, didn't shoot civilians.

Now - Treaty? Great time for a car bombing or artillery strike, eh? Wounded? *bam* Sure he ain't dead? Civilian? No, no, that's an Iraq. They're all terrorists, remember?

Difference? No United Nations back in WWII

God I hate America
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Now: Our soldiers nice to terrorists, then "Allah Akbar!" BLAM BOOM BLAM, some dead American soldiers.....and your really smart to beleive Iraqis are all terrorists there...

"Shooting wounded" You must be talking about that video of the marines rushing into a building in Iraq and then the edited version of them shooting bodies laying on the ground. Well thank the ACTUAL terrorists for our policy, they tend to booby trap their wounded and also what you don't see in the video and even the camera man admits it is that the soldiers told the wounded not to move, but one did anyway and blam, thats the end of him....

QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Sep 14 2005, 09:45 PM)
The U.N. was useful until America said "Screw the UN!  We do what we want!"
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U.N. was useful when it was proactive, now its corrupt and nothing gets done in there.

UN was a good idea, but its too conjusted at the moment to be effective.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-09-15 at 12:33:50
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Sep 14 2005, 10:45 PM)
The U.N. was useful until America said "Screw the UN!  We do what we want!"
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Exactly!

QUOTE(S.T.A.R.S-Chris @ Sep 15 2005, 01:28 AM)
U.N. was useful when it was proactive, now its corrupt and nothing gets done in there.

UN was a good idea, but its too conjusted at the moment to be effective.
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Isn't everything corrupt now in the world? Including our government?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Vibrator on 2005-09-15 at 15:52:34
The UN does a lot of peacekeeping wether you hear about it or not. They have medical teams and peacekeeping units all over the world trying to stabalize some situations but soldiers and money are basically funded by the major countries that are part of the UN and in the end most of the countries don't care about what the UN says.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2005-09-15 at 16:10:14
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Sep 14 2005, 11:45 PM)
The U.N. was useful until America said "Screw the UN!  We do what we want!"
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Agreed.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-09-15 at 16:46:35
They're a bunch of pansies. We should stop funding the UN and just blow them off.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-09-15 at 21:39:37
Kellimus, I think I have a new best friend! happy.gifhappy.gifhappy.gifhappy.gifhappy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-09-16 at 00:53:10
Um... Why?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-09-16 at 02:12:02
tough crowd...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dr.Shotgun on 2005-09-16 at 07:36:17
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Sep 15 2005, 12:45 AM)
The U.N. was useful until America said "Screw the UN!  We do what we want!"
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Agreed.
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