Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-09-22 at 15:07:55
Is it safe to protect a map with both proedit AND uber@tion?
Or will it be impossible to open the map again with the other after u protect with one?
Or will it be impossible to open the map again with the other after u protect with one?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2005-09-22 at 15:10:39
Only one way to find out.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Urmom(U) on 2005-09-22 at 15:23:18
its still possible to unprotect but not with certain programs. if a person attempted to with unberation, it would take forever. a little less time with proedit. why dont you ask evilopel or however u spell it because hes an expert with this.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-09-22 at 15:43:52
Ok, ill try it.
And i know its possible to unprotect, its just harder when u have to unprotect two of the best protections
ADDITION:
Runtime Error, Path Not Found
When i tried proedit protecting after uberation protecting..
And i know its possible to unprotect, its just harder when u have to unprotect two of the best protections
ADDITION:
Runtime Error, Path Not Found
When i tried proedit protecting after uberation protecting..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2005-09-22 at 15:44:27
QUOTE(urmom @ Sep 22 2005, 10:22 PM)
its still possible to unprotect but not with certain programs. if a person attempted to with unberation, it would take forever. a little less time with proedit. why dont you ask evilopel or however u spell it because hes an expert with this.
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Yea, but uber@tion's protection is based on "mess up the map" somehow.
Recent history:
*messed up strings(objectives and transmissions)
next version
*deletes completely all strings(even custom unit names and forces names)
next version
*messes up sounds
next version
map size x10
new version
corrupts map that has doodads made from terrain so it cannot be played...
But its the best protection
.Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Turin.oO on 2005-09-22 at 19:19:29
QUOTE(Silver-Dragon @ Sep 22 2005, 11:07 AM)
Is it safe to protect a map with both proedit AND uber@tion?
Or will it be impossible to open the map again with the other after u protect with one?
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Or will it be impossible to open the map again with the other after u protect with one?
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The point of protecting maps is to keep noobs from rigging or taking credit for your map. Any pro-RESPECTFUL map maker will never steal your map or rig it for no good reason. Therefore, those map protectors will keep your map protected from what it needs to be protected against...noobs. Yes, sadly they could be broken into, but those that can/know how, are usually pros that won't steal your map anyways. So, i'd say its safe enough.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Insane.oO on 2005-09-24 at 09:21:35
QUOTE(Veritaserum @ Sep 22 2005, 06:19 PM)
The point of protecting maps is to keep noobs from rigging or taking credit for your map. Any pro-RESPECTFUL map maker will never steal your map or rig it for no good reason. Therefore, those map protectors will keep your map protected from what it needs to be protected against...noobs. Yes, sadly they could be broken into, but those that can/know how, are usually pros that won't steal your map anyways. So, i'd say its safe enough.
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Yeah but some noobs can break through Protecters so really nothing you do makes it 100% safe. Theres always gonna be the douchebag who just re-arranges the locations and unit names.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Turin.oO on 2005-09-24 at 11:01:49
QUOTE(No_Authority @ Sep 24 2005, 05:21 AM)
Yeah but some noobs can break through Protecters so really nothing you do makes it 100% safe. Theres always gonna be the douchebag who just re-arranges the locations and unit names.
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People who break protectors aren't noobs they are just bozo brains. A noob doesn't know what he's doing. But you are right that you can't have a 100% protected map.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by 00cnr on 2005-09-25 at 13:31:34
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Yeah but some noobs can break through Protecters so really nothing you do makes it 100% safe. Theres always gonna be the douchebag who just re-arranges the locations and unit names.
Yeah but anyways if u post it on the DLBD with your name on it people will know it is your map no matter how many newbs try and steal your map, your name is on the original DLDB ver. and you can always prove it because no one will change that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathknight on 2005-09-25 at 21:40:57
You can't protect with both, it's either one or the other.
Let's put it this way: It's safer than if you didn't.
Let's put it this way: It's safer than if you didn't.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Turin.oO on 2005-09-25 at 22:45:59
QUOTE(Deathknight @ Sep 25 2005, 05:40 PM)
Let's put it this way: It's safer than if you didn't.
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Exactly
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Raynor on 2005-09-25 at 23:16:02
I have heard that there was a second version of proedit out, a private one that couldn't be unprotected.... Dunno wether that's true or not, but it was a rumor going around on east for awhile. I had a copy of the "Supposed" private one about a year ago, however it seemed to crash all the time 
Others say it worked fine... Dunno? 
Others say it worked fine... Dunno? Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Turin.oO on 2005-09-25 at 23:58:27
QUOTE(Raynor @ Sep 25 2005, 07:15 PM)
I have heard that there was a second version of proedit out, a private one that couldn't be unprotected.... Dunno wether that's true or not, but it was a rumor going around on east for awhile. I had a copy of the "Supposed" private one about a year ago, however it seemed to crash all the time Others say it worked fine... Dunno?
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I'm sure that when it said that it couldn't be unprotected i think it meant there was no program that does it YET. Hackers/programmers can do anything and im sure it would just be a matter of time before they figured out how to unprotect that one also.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Master-kenobi on 2005-10-01 at 15:09:57
QUOTE(Veritaserum @ Sep 24 2005, 09:01 AM)
People who break protectors aren't noobs they are just bozo brains. A noob doesn't know what he's doing. But you are right that you can't have a 100% protected map.
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EXCUSE ME DUDE DATS JUST WRONG
wtf r u talking about i got an unprotector and use it proudly
People who unprotect maps to staeal ya there domb.
but i unprotect em to fic glitches or obsious rigging of a unit or unit(s)
basicly just cas u use and unprotect DOES NOT MEAN UR NOOB
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ... on 2005-10-01 at 15:17:56
Dude, please dont type in noobish language. Unprotecting maps without owner's permission is wrong, just wrong.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Turin.oO on 2005-10-01 at 15:19:20
QUOTE(Master-kenobi @ Oct 1 2005, 11:09 AM)
EXCUSE ME DUDE DATS JUST WRONG
wtf r u talking about i got an unprotector and use it proudly
People who unprotect maps to staeal ya there domb.
but i unprotect em to fic glitches or obsious rigging of a unit or unit(s)
basicly just cas u use and unprotect DOES NOT MEAN UR NOOB
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wtf r u talking about i got an unprotector and use it proudly
People who unprotect maps to staeal ya there domb.
but i unprotect em to fic glitches or obsious rigging of a unit or unit(s)
basicly just cas u use and unprotect DOES NOT MEAN UR NOOB
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okay you need to learn some manners. If you read ALL the replys then you would have seen that it is possible to unprotect maps justly. Also, what right do you have to edit someone elses maps just because YOU think they aren't good enough?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2005-10-01 at 15:32:03
What Master-kenobi meant, under all those ranting smilies, is that unprotection could be done for the side of Good as well, like fixing up maps that are good but have some fatal bugs preventing them from being better. Unprotection is also good for scenarios like my WoS2, in which there are no versions in existence any more that isn't protected, and so unprotection can not be avoided if I want to resume that project.
What everyone else meant is that the cases where unprotection can be used the right way are few, and it should be common curtesy to tell the maker if you want to unprotect his map and improve it. Since most map stealers would not have that curtesy, unprotection programs are unsupported by all the legitimate mapping sites.
What everyone else meant is that the cases where unprotection can be used the right way are few, and it should be common curtesy to tell the maker if you want to unprotect his map and improve it. Since most map stealers would not have that curtesy, unprotection programs are unsupported by all the legitimate mapping sites.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Master-kenobi on 2005-10-01 at 16:38:54
QUOTE(PCFredZ @ Oct 1 2005, 01:32 PM)
What Master-kenobi meant, under all those ranting smilies, is that unprotection could be done for the side of Good as well, like fixing up maps that are good but have some fatal bugs preventing them from being better. Unprotection is also good for scenarios like my WoS2, in which there are no versions in existence any more that isn't protected, and so unprotection can not be avoided if I want to resume that project.
What everyone else meant is that the cases where unprotection can be used the right way are few, and it should be common curtesy to tell the maker if you want to unprotect his map and improve it. Since most map stealers would not have that curtesy, unprotection programs are unsupported by all the legitimate mapping sites.
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What everyone else meant is that the cases where unprotection can be used the right way are few, and it should be common curtesy to tell the maker if you want to unprotect his map and improve it. Since most map stealers would not have that curtesy, unprotection programs are unsupported by all the legitimate mapping sites.
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Exactly people are pre-jusging others who actully use the unprotector to help people because of the noobs that map steal (by by the by i hav never seen in any map watsoever)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Turin.oO on 2005-10-01 at 17:43:06
QUOTE(PCFredZ @ Oct 1 2005, 11:32 AM)
What Master-kenobi meant, under all those ranting smilies, is that unprotection could be done for the side of Good as well, like fixing up maps that are good but have some fatal bugs preventing them from being better. Unprotection is also good for scenarios like my WoS2, in which there are no versions in existence any more that isn't protected, and so unprotection can not be avoided if I want to resume that project.
What everyone else meant is that the cases where unprotection can be used the right way are few, and it should be common curtesy to tell the maker if you want to unprotect his map and improve it. Since most map stealers would not have that curtesy, unprotection programs are unsupported by all the legitimate mapping sites.
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What everyone else meant is that the cases where unprotection can be used the right way are few, and it should be common curtesy to tell the maker if you want to unprotect his map and improve it. Since most map stealers would not have that curtesy, unprotection programs are unsupported by all the legitimate mapping sites.
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oh my god that is what i said just in an angry manner because he tried to make it sound like we called him a noob or something
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-10-01 at 17:53:35
Hey, nobody's perfect..
yah, i tested, it, u can only protect with one at a time though.. I wish the maker of proedit and uber@tion would make one that combines both techniques (if theyre different) to make an uber@tion pro program or something..
Well, anyway,
uber@tion is the best possible so far..
And what pcfred said was the nicest thing ive heard so far in this topic
yah, i tested, it, u can only protect with one at a time though.. I wish the maker of proedit and uber@tion would make one that combines both techniques (if theyre different) to make an uber@tion pro program or something..
Well, anyway,
uber@tion is the best possible so far..
And what pcfred said was the nicest thing ive heard so far in this topic
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2005-10-01 at 19:34:46
uBeR@TiOn basically has all the protection methods of PROEdit + more.