I have started this topic to ask the public what do you think the government should do to help the gulf and the states that surround it that were affected by the past hurricanes? How can we make it safer and avoid Economy conflicts over it?
>> This is the time to really voice your opinion's and idea's on the matter.
Everyone wants to be politicaly correct and help.
Nobody wants to pay for it.
Well people are greedy

and no matter how bad of a thing to say it is but right now money does make the world go around.
Why would I want to pay for them to build right back in the same spot? To me, that is a waist of money. Call me arrogent, I don't care. They should have listened to the geologists and stuff back then, and they should not have built there.
Well i think we should work on a better defense perhaps sort of a sea wall..like in galveston texas...after the early 1930s thousands were lost in a terrible hurricane there..after that they built a sea wall to help prevent these sort of things...i say we make some sort of defense against these things.. >.< Either that or invest in a stronger material to build with lol.
all of you are right, but the problem is....the government can't do anything without the say-so of the state. What i'm trying to say is that if the state of Florida doesn't call for help the government has no power to go in. Granted that bush did take 2 days to RECOGNIZE their situation. also there was a hurricane before that, also the geoligist said would hit florida. It never hit so, maybe everyone thought it would miss them like the last one, so they saw no necesssity to gather and move. There for sticking themselfs in the situation they are in.
2 b honest i think it is monther nature getting her own back
America is 1 of the main causes of polution in this world causeing mother nature a hell of alot of grief...so MN get her own bak...she causes america alot of grief.
SIH
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Sep 27 2005, 09:08 PM)
Why would I want to pay for them to build right back in the same spot? To me, that is a waist of money. Call me arrogent, I don't care. They should have listened to the geologists and stuff back then, and they should not have built there.
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Yeah, they should have never build houses anywhere in the state of California because of earthquakes. They should have never build house anywhere in the middle regions of USA for many tornados strike that area per year! They should have never build a house anywhere in Florida or Georgia because hurricanes come!
Wow Kellimus, that seems to always be an excuse when an American distaster occurs. You just seem to say (and maybe other people) "DEY NEVR SHULDV BIULT DER"
Well guess what, we need to expand into different places to build. Stop being so stupid. It's just like saying they should have never build the Twin Towers in New York because it will get hit by planes!
QUOTE(Sir_IceHawk @ Oct 5 2005, 11:32 AM)
2 b honest i think it is monther nature getting her own back
America is 1 of the main causes of polution in this world causeing mother nature a hell of alot of grief...so MN get her own bak...she causes america alot of grief.
SIH
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Please don't post in the Serious Discussion.
You're just another "I don't like americans" person.
We are controling our pollution more and more every day.
There are other countries that pollute more than us, so go use your "MODHER NATRURE" talk on them.
Yeah man, next time we call in the military to stop the hurricane, we can use opposite airways to counteract the winds and neutralize it!
People should do what they can to deal with the hurricane's aftermath until the federal government can help. Relying solely on the federal government is just a bad way to seal their own fate.
The US government needs to set aside (a lot of) money for rebuilding efforts - they can't rely entirely upon private investment from building and sewerage firms and the like to make the Gulf Coast right again.
Once New Orleans is drained, the federal government should probably pump money into the area in the form of compensation to get local businesses back on their feet. Once the businesses are running, people will return to their jobs and the local economy will begin to run itself... hopefully.
Unfortunately, I know too little about the issue to contribute much.
If private people/businesses don't want to invest in rebuilding, why should you force them to by using tax money? Is that fair?
That wasn't what I was saying.
I was saying that the government should compensate the businesses in the affected areas. The compensation money would hopefully stop the companies from going under (not literally submerged, which they may well be at the moment) and allow them to re-establish themselves, providing jobs in the area.
Nobody's forcing the businesses to do anything - they can take the money and run if that's what they want to do.
The only thing the government would have to do is to have a new proposal of a new section of emergency services, which I personally think would not be passed, seeing as this event seems to to be the first major displacement of american people for quite some time.
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Everyone wants to be politicaly correct and help.
I've noticed that people are becoming a little too politically correct. I can't do whatever I want to anymore.
Gouv. should concentrate on future disasters instead of trying to help dead people.
It's their own damn fault nature is going so freaking crazy in the first place anyway, so sign the damn Kyoto protocol already and start saving Earth

With that being said, you say all those people that died are responsible for their own death? I don't agree with what has happened but they had as much reason to live as you. Saying that we should stop helping the dead people is rude, since there was/is still people who are in need of assistance. Why do we spend money on dead people? The same reason we spend money on funerals or any other luxuries we do for our deceased family or friends, to pay our respects to them. We just don't leave them rotting where they fall. Even then, who said that the hurricane was caused by human interaction, it simply could have been a natural disaster, like any other. The Kyoto Protocol will not save our "damn Earth," it will merely slow down the rate at which will be eventually destroyed by our own doings.
Theres nothing you can really do to stop natural disasters from occuring. There are ways of bringing down the damage however. Maybe the houses or buildings could be less tall and more wide or go deeper into the ground. Stronger materials are constantly being researched and developed to.
QUOTE(CaptainWill @ Oct 6 2005, 01:18 PM)
That wasn't what I was saying.
I was saying that the government should compensate the businesses in the affected areas. The compensation money would hopefully stop the companies from going under (not literally submerged, which they may well be at the moment) and allow them to re-establish themselves, providing jobs in the area.
Nobody's forcing the businesses to do anything - they can take the money and run if that's what they want to do.
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No, that
was what you're saying. Why force people to pay through taxation if they don't want to pay voluntarily?
It was Osama Bin Laden.
You can't deny Osama caused that Hurricane.
I dont realy care what happened from the hurricanes, but i am sort of happy about them, and wish more...
The world is over populated currently and events like this are natures way of depopulation the world back to normal... but being the kinda stupidest things on earth have tried to stop that and make the world tottaly ours.
this is what is gona kill us all, so i think events like this should occur more offten.
i am glad BOTH hurricanes hit.
The feds should realise that the global warming scientists who predicted "stronger and more frequent hurricanes" are correct and attempt to counteract global warming by reducing car emmissions.
That earthquake also was a nice lil addition to the "disaster pwn@ge list".
Did they reach 30,000 deaths yet? It's so satisfying...
QUOTE(Mini Moose 2707 @ Sep 27 2005, 05:35 PM)
Everyone wants to be politicaly correct and help.
Nobody wants to pay for it.
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Moose has it down to me. They say they want to help but where is the money going to come from? Tax cuts? lol.

QUOTE(Absolute @ Oct 8 2005, 02:48 PM)
No, that was what you're saying. Why force people to pay through taxation if they don't want to pay voluntarily?
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Because that's the way an indirect democracy works.
If you haven't realised that by now, then what have you been smoking?

As for the dodgy question of why we should help out, I believe I can think of about two reasons:
1. The affected area contributes a significant amount to the US economy and helping it out now will prevent economic shortfalls later on, and thus long term tax rises. Oil, for example, was a major commodity there until the hurricane swept away the drilling rigs. You'll pay for the disaster anyway through increased oil prices - why not help out and lessen the impact of this?
2. Tens of thousands of people have been displaced, had their livelihoods ruined and so on. The humanitarian reasons for spending should be enough to make you reach into your pockets, even if it is indirectly through taxation.
What are your thoughts on those? Obviously the affected states shouldn't just be left to rot by the federal government - they can't pay their own way now that their economies are trashed.
QUOTE(Sachiel @ Oct 9 2005, 09:57 PM)
I dont realy care what happened from the hurricanes, but i am sort of happy about them, and wish more...
The world is over populated currently and events like this are natures way of depopulation the world back to normal... but being the kinda stupidest things on earth have tried to stop that and make the world tottaly ours.
this is what is gona kill us all, so i think events like this should occur more offten.
i am glad BOTH hurricanes hit.
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Why don't you kill yourself? That is a completely serious question.