Well a few weeks ago I heard the accusation that global warming was the culprit behind Katrina and Rita. Recently storms have been getting worse, not more numerous mind you, but they are getting more violent. It was even predicted that what happened in The Day After Tomorrow will happen in in the next 50 years! I don't know about you, but I'm going to still be around for that event, and frankly I'm not happy about it. Do you think what was seen in Louisiana is just a peek into what the future might bring?
well, the flooding in Louisiana was a accident waiting to happen. when you build stuff below sea level it has the nasty tendency to be flooded when things break... as for the rest of the world, yes global wrming is a major issue, but most of those global projects rely on the fact that we will continue to ahve the same gaseos out put that we do now (increasing at the same exponential rates as now) but this is very unlikely considering that patrolium reserves are quickly running out. this means that we will have to switch to a different power source, and 90% of the remaining canidates are actually way cleaner running then gasoline, but at the same time are less effective.
so yes if the Earth's resource let us have more Patrolium then we currently predict we could be in some major trouble.
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Well a few weeks ago I heard the accusation that global warming was the culprit behind Katrina and Rita. Recently storms have been getting worse, not more numerous mind you, but they are getting more violent. It was even predicted that what happened in The Day After Tomorrow will happen in in the next 50 years! I don't know about you, but I'm going to still be around for that event, and frankly I'm not happy about it. Do you think what was seen in Louisiana is just a peek into what the future might bring?
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The world will have an ice-age, whether we have global warming or not. The world goes through cycles, and unfortunately for us, we live during the time when the ice-age will come. Hell, Global Warming might even be staving off the ice-age for a bit.
I expect that the pole will freeze down to the 40 degree north latitude line or thereabouts, but even then, our nations will be able to supply food and goods to keep New York, Beijing, etc, alive. And the Ice Age, hopefully, will not last very long. Our last Ice Age lasted about a hundred years I think, and it froze from the north pole down to about Spain, I think.
Lol, do some reaserch before you guess at how long ice ages last. Anyway, yes hurricanes will keep getting stronger, last longer and come for a longer period of time during the year because of global warming. Global warming melts the poles creating warmer water in the atlantic which lets hurricanes go wild.
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Lol, do some reaserch before you guess at how long ice ages last. Anyway, yes hurricanes will keep getting stronger, last longer and come for a longer period of time during the year because of global warming. Global warming melts the poles creating warmer water in the atlantic which lets hurricanes go wild.
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Lol, not all ice-ages last forever, tard. Lol, some ice-ages are short-term. Lol, yes, there was a short-term ice-age in the last thousand years where the River Thames in England froze. Lol.
Sad..
I always knew i was born in the wrong time.. i think.
(well before there were no computers, so i dont know what to think)
But yah, in the next 50 years or so humanity's resources will go down, and as far as i know the gases in the atmosphere will become quite dangerous for living beings. Well more of them anyway
Easiest solution is to plant more trees. Trees make oxygen.
Actually, not they don't.
Me and my friend had a discussion about Terraforming Mars and our discussion came across how we would get oxygen there.
So we Wikipediaed Photosynthesis, and tree's do not in fact produce oxygen.
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Actually, not they don't.
Me and my friend had a discussion about Terraforming Mars and our discussion came across how we would get oxygen there.
So we Wikipediaed Photosynthesis, and tree's do not in fact produce oxygen.
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They clean the oxygen though. Which is still a good thing

QUOTE(Kellimus @ Oct 4 2005, 11:31 AM)
Actually, not they don't.
Me and my friend had a discussion about Terraforming Mars and our discussion came across how we would get oxygen there.
So we Wikipediaed Photosynthesis, and tree's do not in fact produce oxygen.
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They absolutely do.
They break apart other compounds and release pure oxygen from them.
edit: It even says that on Wikipedia!
6H2O + 6CO2 + light → C6H12O6 (glucose) + 6O2
Space....that's just what it really needs; US.
Snake ling made no sense to me with his ice age talk, but I do agree with him somewhat
The earth goes through hot and cold cycles. We just happen to be in a warming one. We, in fact, only produce about 1% of the smoke/smog in the atmosphere. Most of the rest can be attributed to volcanoes.
no.....cars and are polusion are giving us global warming we dont contribute 1%....we make about probably 80%+ the polusion/smog/gas in the air
Maybe in the urban areas, but the world as a whole, we contribute very little.
Volcanoes make up a change in global temperature, but they don't effect green house gases much. The fact is is that we are the biggest cause of the deterioration of the atmosphere.
And another thing I found is that the magnetic north pole has been moving over the past hundered years (duh) but what I found was that it has been speeding up and is supposedly going to flip (north pole becomes south, south becomes north) in about 60-70 years. Nobody really knows what this will do to the world, as it hasn't happened for about a long time. The biggest problem this might have is that the earth is protected from the suns more harmful particles by this sheild. The flipping of the poles could potentially switch the position of our "sheild" and open us up to many other harmful rays than simply ultraviolet.
"Energy spontaneously tends to flow only from being concentrated in one place
to becoming diffused or dispersed and spread out." -- 2nd Law of Thermodynamics also known as the law of entropy
It short, everything is breaking down and becoming chaos.
Edit:: As I read the posts over and over again the more I come to realize that many of you get your scientific philosophies from movies which is totally ridiculous.
:/.........uhh i know im gonna pay for this, but if the world is warming (global warming), then why would there be an ice age?
Because they brought up the fact that the earth goes through cycles of warm and cold periods.
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As I read the posts over and over again the more I come to realize that many of you get your scientific philosophies from movies which is totally ridiculous.
It's funny because the most popular sci-fi movies are also the most incorrect, scientifically.
how would the world become cold in the first place....
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Edit:: As I read the posts over and over again the more I come to realize that many of you get your scientific philosophies from movies which is totally ridiculous.
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lol.
I've heard it said that currently we're in the bad part of a 20 year cycle of the severity of hurricanes. Can anyone verify that?
Umm is the 'the atmosphere will become more dangerous' true?
Or did i make a fool of myself and finally make a scientific mistake?
Well, yeah, the atmosphere is starting to deteriorate, specifically, the ozone layer.
Guess what's causing the ozone layer to deteriorate?
....REFRIGERATORS. I AM serious.
That was in the 60's, they fixed that a while back.
Lots of things can deteriorate Ozone, it is not a very stable molecule.
QUOTE(Rantent @ Sep 30 2005, 10:16 PM)
Well a few weeks ago I heard the accusation that global warming was the culprit behind Katrina and Rita. Recently storms have been getting worse, not more numerous mind you, but they are getting more violent. It was even predicted that what happened in The Day After Tomorrow will happen in in the next 50 years! I don't know about you, but I'm going to still be around for that event, and frankly I'm not happy about it. Do you think what was seen in Louisiana is just a peek into what the future might bring?
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Well first of all, that movie has about no fact in it. Such a storm would not occur for those reasons in the movie and such a storm probably would never have enough energy to create itself for the laws of science more or less say "energy/matter cannot be created or destroyed"
But, to the point of global warming, yes global warming is effecting the feriocity of the storms. Perhaps you should also look at the other things global warming is doing. The earth has raised 1 celcius. That is around seattle longitudinaly. If you go to northern canada, its raised 3-5 celcius. If you go to either artic circle its raised 5-10 celcius. This also it true for the southern half as well. If you want to see the perfect effect of what global warming can do, go study Venus for it is a living green house effect.
Also, I don't get how people think that the ozone layer has something to do with global warming. The ozone layer is not being effected directly from the hotter temperatures. Some of the for both of them are the same, but they're not directly effecting each other. Snake)ling is kind of correct as well. Refrigerators are effecting the ozone, or atleast they were. Some laws were made and they're not really allowed to use that chemical anymore.
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Well first of all, that movie has about no fact in it.
Read up on things before you post.
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The ozone layer is not being effected directly from the hotter temperatures.
I never said it was. Ozone is an unstable molecule composed of three oxygen atoms, it forms when Ultraviolet rays from the sun, or an electrical discharge, interacts with regular oxygen atoms. It's unstable properties make it an excellent chemical for bonding with things. (Why do they call it Oxyclean? Because Ozone bonds with so many things!) When we pump many chemicals in the air they react with the ozone forming other chemicals other than simply oxygen, therefore there is less of a reaction between Ozone and the ultraviolet rays. This lets more harmfull radiation hit the earths surface. THis energy getting closer to the lower atmosphere, where heat is more easily contained, is one major reason for the raise in temperatures. Ozone depletion is creating the raising temperatures not the other way around.
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The earth has raised 1 celcius.
Actually not even that, (0.8) and the study was done in several areas of the world, and averaged. The effect this is having is drastic though, and its not as much the heat as the cues for animal behavior that is damaging life here. Flowers are blooming about a month too soon in areas of the world, which means that the pollinators don't catch up to the pollination season in time and all the flowers die.