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Ok for those of you who don't know this map i'm mentioning has been in production since I joined SEN, well sort of. In number of hours it's acutally been worked on would probably be around 15 at the most. Oringally GgG-Criminal was the leader map maker of the project, I was there for ideas, and M.k.russ. would be side help. But things have changed, Criminal no longer comes online, and russ amazingly has been working on the map and doing a great job. I am certain the map will be finished, if we REALLY work on it it should be done before summer next year. We're acutally very close to making missions.
If you don't know anything about this map i'll explain it to you.

The Basics/Facts:
This was started a year after VC came out, crim left it for dead and I revived his inspiration to make it one day, later on we got Russ on board who's been great help! With Crim gone me and russ are co-mapmakers, I know in past i've had arguements with russ since he didn't really respect me that much, but a lot has changed we're good friends now. So it'll only be me and russ working on this for now on.

The City

WE KNOW SAN ANDREAS IS OUT. If you want a San ANdreas map there's already one being made: Here.
The city has some great things to it
-Awesome missions, none of which will be from the acutally VC, what's the point of making a game that butchers an already made game that you can get for 20$? All these missions are oringal and will test more SC stuff rather then a makebelieve TPS on SC
-Car Patrols. I've mentioned this in past threads cause it's quiet cool There will be cops, bikers, taxis, vans, buses, roaming around the city at all times. As of right now there's a little bit of lag (It's not that noticable though) but that's because we see all of the map at once, when we take away map revealers it'll move a lot smoother.
-Wanted system. We're currently working on that right now, but you'll get in trouble if you cause too much damage! Like trying to hijack a cop car, you might get a wanted level!
-Propeties. Like in VC you'll be able to buy properties, you'll see classics like the Mansion in the center of VC, but you'll also be able to buy places like Ammunation where you get discounts on guns (Maybe even free)
-Hijack system. The Hijack system we have is great, there's a goon and ultra, ultra you exit out of a car, and goon you enter a car, it's dropship system for easy hotkey. Also it's made so the goon stays out till you get in a car, so there's no hard timing for fast cars.
-4 Players. Not 1, not 2. Four. Four people can play this map at a time, I would suggest 2 players to have more fun and not so all the cooler properites will be bought out, I'm not sure about the 4 players though, as of right now the city runs with 4 players but the missions might screw up stuff, we're not sure, as of right now expect four people in this map.
-No Bs, or City blowing up. This isn't anything to write home about but russ made it so you can't jsut take a flamethrower and level the entire city

Storyline

As of right now. There isn't one. I'm the storyline person for right now, but we're trying to give you the feeling of freedom. I'll probably try setting it up so you have to do a few missions (4-7) at the beginning of map, then you'll be set off to start what you want. Want to do some gang dirty work? Buy the Cafe, or work for them. Are your flight attendents smuggling drugs at the airplanes? Fix the problem and get access to airplanes! There's no order, if you really wanted to you could do side missions for a few hours and buy Ammunation which will be the most expensive to buy.

[ The Screenshots were suppose to go here but they were REALLY big for some reason.. ]

Now there are two things I can say confindently about this map this time around:
1. I made the airplane routes (Seen in ammunation pic, currently you can jack them like in Mercenaries, but we're fixing that.. sorry)
2. IT WILL BE FINISHED
Russ was on vacastion for a while but now he's co-leader of GgG so he has more reason to be online, plus I know his email now.

Questions? Comments?

[ New Area For Screenshots ]:

You are looking at, Airport, Race Track, Boss House (Use to have Trees) and Ammunation, the guns were crossed out by a X Ninja, oh well you'll never know ^_^.

Yeah.. i saw this topic some time ago... and asked .. " what happened to the map??"
So many Gta maps coming out.. =/ , well good luck !

Wow, lol crazy ever since you and Dead started making your GTA maps there's been lots of new GTA maps being made

anyways on topic now.

The map idea sounds good but you might want to work on the terrain a little more or the unit plcaement, like for the amunation you might want to fill in the empty spaces with supply depot's, or you could try using square terrain for the walls of places. Also, for the racetrack i'm wondering how would you make a racing game if the start/end is at the same place? couldn't you just cheat to win

I forgot to mention that in screenshots
I was using XTRA EDIOR Classic, so it had unplaced supply depos around time, I just don't like Speical, so those "spaces" are filled up in real version .
For races they're probably be 2 locations and a switch, the switch will be set when you get halfway towards the race, and you can only finish when it's set. Unless if russ has a better idea.

Also Crazy you might want to change it to "M.k.russ. and Golden-Fist's GTA: Vice City" cause russ is really doing all the work, I just have a SEN account . Also he'll skull:censored: me if I make people think I did a lot. As I said I probably only thought of the guns for Ammunation and the Airplane Patrols which took a whooping 8 minutes. Aren't I impressive?

Mmmm Now that I look at the screenshots it looks really empty, well i'll give a pic of a common place in the map later

lol this m.k.russ character sounds pretty scary to me! , anyways yea that idea for the race would work so good job!

wow 3 good version of gta how fun so how many player is can this game hold

I just searched the forums.....
so many failed Gta maps.. like GTA: Los Santos .. lol
Yeah.. I'll change my signature for ya.. =/

D00d not 1, not 2 BUT 4!!!1 I Repeat 4!!!!!!!! OMGZz0z0z00rrzz Fourz000rs!!!111OneOneOne!!!1Exclamation point exclamation point exclamation point!!!!!!!!11twotwotwothreethreethree

The rebirth of GTA maps.. i was definetly waiting for this one to come out.. Im surprised Russ was working on it secretly.. Also there may be one more GTA map coming out..

Omgz0rz is teh Mckeoms going to make a GTA map?!?!? If you gonna make a GTA map put in a McDonalds, that would be pretty leet. GogoGoGoGo make production threat for the "not 1, not 2, but 4!!!!!!1oneoneoneone" GTA map!!!!

Holy S*** GTA Madness
I want more screens Golden

I think it's obvious no one believes in the map. Meh oh well.
Here's what you'll see in the city around 70% of the time, don't want it too crowed
Also the wall im in front of is Ammunation, as you can see it has all the walls

YAY I am the only one with full 3d city .
Anyway looks nice. My suggestion to combine car enter/exit in one action. Good luck and I hope it won't result with another GTA curse. I am about to break the curse but be careful.

What do you mean by curse? That the maps never get finished?

That the maps relate nothing to GTA.. or dont have a GTA-like feeling.. crappy terrain..hard to follow..etc the past gta maps..

yea most gta maps are so gay out there... i mean not even most more like all... they have pretty much no point in them and there so limited also

Oh well obviously you can see this has 1 major thing in common with Vice City already, the terrain. The ground itself is exactly the same, the buildings.. not really. Criminal made all the terrian, and his reason for not making it on 256x256 still boggles my mind. It'd be a lot easier. Well anyway I won't expect this thread to be active and livly all the time like other threads for 2 main reasons:
1. It's been on/off map for a while
2. Russ gets online 1-2 times every 1-2 weeks. So don't feel afarid if the thread gets on second page and nothing happens for a week. Rest asure we're working on the map
I was thinking of making a GTA: VC sig, just can't think of what it would look like

so you guys are finishing it though right??

Yeah, if I wasn't as lazy as I am and I worked on the map all the time i'd give out updates every other day or so. It just takes a while to get in contact with russ is all i'm saying.

You can always stop working with him , and with me lol...
map production would be faster

yea you shouldnt exactly work with russ if he aint working on it..

Geez 3 quality maps announced and more to come! What on earth have I done????? Anyway, if anybody wants my advice on GTA systems, you know who to ask.

NOTE: I could never use these 'systems' to make a quality GTA map, but to the right person they might be useful.

Kinda disappointed after those cheap gta maps coming out.. and giving gta a bad name on SC =/ but it's all right i guess
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Anyways... Golden-Fist ... I wanna help

Ok spit it out buddy. I didn't heard anything from you when I started the map, maybe I will now.

I kinda agree with Crazy, you made a bunch of crappy "gta" maps that probably made the GTA curse.

He does work, he just doesn't go on Brood War much. As for working on the map, he does a lot of it, i'm like 2% map workage. I would be working on it now, but russ would do something better like the wanted level system and I'd have to do what I did overa gain.


I'm aware of your work, and I don't mean this as an insult but it all sucks. Thanks for the offer... again. I remeber you doing this in the last thread as well..

The only thing anyone can do at this point is send mission ideas. Now to keep people from flamming each other or making retarded jokes like "LOL HAWT COGGE!EOn1" if you have a real mission that you think would work in SC you can PM me it, i'll run it by russ and if we both like it, we can try doing it. You can also do the little cutscene before missions and see if I could fit it in to the story i'll have. If we have any trouble with something like wanted level system we'll ask for help. Till then i'll just keep updating you guys while you submit critism.