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Report, edit, etc...Posted by MindArchon on 2005-10-20 at 19:04:42

I have finally gotten around to submitting the new version of Trigger Viewer. I've had it sitting around for a while now.

I am aware that there was a bug present where you could not open any maps protected with Uberation, but it is now fixed. Currently, the program seems to open all maps fine regardless of protection.

Download Now!

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Hitl1r1 on 2005-10-20 at 21:19:57

Sounds cool, I will try it right now.

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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Turin.oO on 2005-10-20 at 21:31:13

So let me get this straight...i can view the triggers of other maps even if they are protected but this isn't a modifier program correct?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Hitl1r1 on 2005-10-20 at 21:32:00

Yep u can view the locations and the triggers, thats it and it doesnt modify

Report, edit, etc...Posted by CooL)Kid on 2005-10-20 at 21:40:58

Sounds cool~

I just download . . .^-^;

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-10-20 at 21:41:10

QUOTE(Veritaserum @ Oct 20 2005, 07:31 PM)

So let me get this straight...i can view the triggers of other maps even if they are protected but this isn't a modifier program correct?
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I know what you're thinking.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Hitl1r1 on 2005-10-20 at 21:51:36

Its not like u can do that though Syphon, unless you modify the trigger viewer program

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-10-20 at 22:06:19

Yea I don't mind people using this as it wouldn't change anything in there map. Just help to educate them.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Turin.oO on 2005-10-20 at 23:45:49

QUOTE(Syphon @ Oct 20 2005, 05:41 PM)

I know what you're thinking.
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no you don't. Im not like that. i like to know what is going on. Im not gonna steal triggers or anything...i won't be downloading this as to i have no reason/desire to look at other peoples triggers except for in map making assistance where i do my best to help out.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sniper on 2005-10-21 at 00:38:51

You can't steal a trigger, if it's gonna be original good, but once its out there other people will learn it. Why do you think people talk down to bounds nowadays.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by HeRtZ on 2005-10-21 at 04:44:25

triggerveiwer is for freakin noobs who don't want to learn triggers, i hate mindarchon for making this I WILL PROTEST AGAINST THIS!

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-10-21 at 14:28:45

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triggerveiwer is for freakin noobs who don't want to learn triggers, i hate mindarchon for making this I WILL PROTEST AGAINST THIS!

Hate is such a strong word.

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You can't steal a trigger, if it's gonna be original good, but once its out there other people will learn it. Why do you think people talk down to bounds nowadays.

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Yea I don't mind people using this as it wouldn't change anything in there map. Just help to educate them.

Same thing for LotRishes. As for education, once it is out there, people learn it. The only thing you can do is to protect it as best you can., if you don't want your idea to be shared... of course, if you wanted not to share, you wouldn't bother to publish your map. Defeats the whole purpose of map-making.

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I know what you're thinking.

Chances are, if you are helping a person with a map out, they will give the unprotected version, so that you can look at the chan ges without difficulty.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Turin.oO on 2005-10-21 at 17:54:34

QUOTE(Tavrobel @ Oct 21 2005, 10:28 AM)

Chances are, if you are helping a person with a map out, they will give the unprotected version, so that you can look at the chan ges without difficulty.
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That is why i said i won't be downloading this

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2005-10-21 at 18:43:57

Is unchecked-never protection still available? Or was this the "bug" that was fixed?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2005-10-21 at 19:50:50

I don't think this viewer is for newbs at all.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by MindArchon on 2005-10-21 at 21:20:45

QUOTE(Voyager7456(MM) @ Oct 21 2005, 03:43 PM)

Is unchecked-never protection still available? Or was this the "bug" that was fixed?
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That was never available, I never added it in

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathknight on 2005-10-21 at 23:02:54

Is there even proof that anyone who has read basic Staredit tutorials, and practiced making triggers theirself, learned also from this program?

Right now, I only see this program as a look-and-copy tool so that those using it can obtain the "same effect" used in the map prior to their own, without actually learning anything.

Well one thing is for sure, anyone who can't come up with the same effect used in one map is ignorant, and it has been emphasized with this program.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by DI- on 2005-10-22 at 11:22:03

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Is unchecked-never protection still available? Or was this the "bug" that was fixed?

I have no idea what this means. Would someone mind telling me? Also, this is like an unprotector?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Mario.oO on 2005-10-22 at 11:29:14

hmm i like it bro good stuff you got there

Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2005-10-22 at 11:35:45

MindArchon, I think you need to make this line bigger in the file download page:

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This is not an unprotector! All maps that are opened cannot have their triggers extracted or copied!

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2005-10-22 at 12:22:48

QUOTE(DI- @ Oct 22 2005, 09:22 AM)

I have no idea what this means. Would someone mind telling me? Also, this is like an unprotector?
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There was discussion earlier about having triggers with an unchecked never condition hidden from Trigger Viewer. I thought MindArchon had implemented it, but I guess not.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2005-10-22 at 13:26:09

QUOTE(Deathknight @ Oct 21 2005, 11:02 PM)

Look-and-copy still could result in learning. There's no proof anyone CAN'T learn.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Hitl1r1 on 2005-10-22 at 14:17:43

It helped me how to make a bound before

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sniper on 2005-10-22 at 17:00:27

It's like taking notes. Even if your not really paying attention, writingthings down from the board always helps you learn.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kenoli on 2005-10-23 at 00:41:37

I just like to look at things that people don't want me to see.
Your triggers are ·MINE· LolOloLolOLOlOloloLoLol!!!!111

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