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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chronophobia on 2005-10-23 at 17:46:40
Do you belive in Karma? For those who don't know what it is, it is the "Cause and Effect" theory.

Sometimes I do belive in Karma, sometimes I do not, I just don't know why, it flows through my brain!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HorroR on 2005-10-23 at 18:08:33
No. In events like this, it can be coincidence, or possibly a sign of gratitude from a person. I do bad stuff, but nothing comes out bad for me.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tmac on 2005-10-23 at 20:44:26
Nothing yet! lookaround.gif

I don't believe in karma either.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-10-23 at 22:34:52
Im nice to people, and like good things happen.

Last week a friend of mine randomly walked into my class room and gave me a brownie and a mountain dew. I was like "cool" and thats the way karma works. cool.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FallenDreamer on 2005-10-24 at 03:01:14
QUOTE(Rantent @ Oct 23 2005, 08:34 PM)
Im nice to people, and like good things happen.

Last week a friend of mine randomly walked into my class room and gave me a brownie and a mountain dew. I was like "cool" and thats the way karma works. cool.gif
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Taking it too much for granted, Rantent... Pay more attention to the dude that handed you the brownie and mountain dew.

In the case of Karma existing or not, it shouldn't matter. If it takes something like that for one to feel the need to be good, then I say we'd be better off without it. Then again, if it did exist, those who did bad would get their end of the bargain as well.

Although I'd have to say that Karma exists in some odd way. Sometimes it's just human nature. Then again, Karma runs off of human nature. So I guess it sorta does exist, in some cases.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-24 at 11:29:33
QUOTE(Rantent @ Oct 23 2005, 07:34 PM)
Im nice to people, and like good things happen.

Last week a friend of mine randomly walked into my class room and gave me a brownie and a mountain dew. I was like "cool" and thats the way karma works. cool.gif
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That's nice of him, but that is not Karma.

Karma does not affect you in this life if you believe in Karma.

Most people get it mixed up.

The real Karma, is each LIFE, not THIS life. Karma comes from Reincarnation (Belief of you come back after death) and they believe that what you do in this life, affects your next one, not, You do something good in this life, it affects you this life.

That is just generosity.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by synd][cate on 2005-10-24 at 12:08:11
Intrestingly enough the #1 thing that pisses me off out of everything .. and trust me there is alot of things that piss me off. Anyways the #1 thing is people that ignorantly claim something happened because some invisible force caused it to happen (Unless that invisible force just happens to be gravity, momentum, wind, etc).

I want to slap them around the room since their so god damn stupid! Also these people say it like it's a fact and I should some how believe their stupid ass.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-10-24 at 14:43:35
Karma? Believe what you want, but the cause and effect theory as in you do something good to someone else and they do something good back, thats human nature. People are grateful, so they pay you back. You punch them? They'll punch you back later, if not immediately.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FallenDreamer on 2005-10-24 at 20:10:57
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Oct 24 2005, 09:29 AM)
That's nice of him, but that is not Karma.

Karma does not affect you in this life if you believe in Karma.

Most people get it mixed up.

The real Karma, is each LIFE, not THIS life.  Karma comes from Reincarnation (Belief of you come back after death) and they believe that what you do in this life, affects your next one, not, You do something good in this life, it affects you this life.

That is just generosity.
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I don't think we're refering to hinduism... just the karma people refer to in daily life. You know, the mistaken one.

QUOTE(synd][cate @ Oct 24 2005, 10:08 AM)
Intrestingly enough the #1 thing that pisses me off out of everything .. and trust me there is alot of things that piss me off.  Anyways the #1 thing is people that ignorantly claim something happened because some invisible force caused it to happen (Unless that invisible force just happens to be gravity, momentum, wind, etc).

I want to slap them around the room since their so god damn stupid!  Also these people say it like it's a fact and I should some how believe their stupid ass.
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It's not an invisible force. It's human nature. People spread what they like. If you do something good, chances are the person that you performed good to will A) spread the word, if it was good enough... B) pay you back, (almost) everyone does it, or C) do both. Humans find odd ways of going about their communication, and much of that has resulted in Karma, or as Snake)Ling put it, the Cause and Effect theory.

QUOTE(Snake)Ling @ Oct 24 2005, 12:43 PM)
Karma? Believe what you want, but the cause and effect theory as in you do something good to someone else and they do something good back, thats human nature. People are grateful, so they pay you back. You punch them? They'll punch you back later, if not immediately.
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Agree with the first half, something to add on the second.

They may not even punch you back for that matter. If you don't receive the consequence/payback/payoff in material form, the human psyche will be sure to do the job for you instead.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-10-24 at 21:21:17
I know this sounds odd for a 16 year old white male but I am a fan of Hinduism although I am not religous..

I'll crudely explain the system.. Theres Varna Dharma and Karma. They form a cycle. Varna is basically what caste you are in the Hindu culture, if your born into a rich family, you are supposed to continue that and follow the job that flows in your family. Then, your Dharma, which is basically your "duty" in life, depending on your Varna, you have a certain "duty" and your are supposed to follow this. Depending on how well you follow your Dharma, it determines your Karma. If you do a great job with life and ignore your emotions your Karma is higher. The higher your Karma the better your reincarnation. On the flip side, bad Karma = bad reincarnation. Once you acheive the perfect Karma, you move on to Moksha (multiple spellings) which is a pari-nirvana. And basically where everything is connected by its spirit. Its sorta hard to describe but you get the idea.

And though I am not religous I do consider myself spiritual, and I may possibly take on a form of religion. As of now I have my own version of Hinduism which fits what I would like in the after-life the most.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-10-24 at 23:31:38
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Karma does not affect you in this life if you believe in Karma.
That is only one sense of the word. It can also mean what goes around comes around.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2005-10-25 at 11:37:01
I wouldn't exactly say for sure I believe in karma, but I like to toy with the ideas of it... speaking of the more popular 'version' of it, anyways...

And it's not like, "oh, I'll do this good deed and get paid back later for it" because it wouldn't work like that. And generally, if you do a good deed, the person you did it towards wouldn't be the one necessarily paying you back for it.


If karma was absolutely realistic, good natured people wouldn't get horrible things done to them (rape, murder, etc).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-25 at 13:09:00
QUOTE(isolatedpurity @ Oct 25 2005, 08:37 AM)
If karma was absolutely realistic, good natured people wouldn't get horrible things done to them (rape, murder, etc).
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Yenku has already explained that ^_^

The good people get beat down because the bad people put off bad karma. The people getting beat down, depending on the way they percieve it, expell bad and/or good karma.

I think Yenku did a good explaination... ^_^
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-10-25 at 14:50:17
So, technically, day-to-day Karma is impossible?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-10-25 at 21:33:26
Yes. In Hinduism, you must continue this your entire life. Showing emotion, is a sign of bad karma.

But thats why I'm not religous, because I think showing emotion is important, and should not be with held.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-26 at 01:15:12
I believe in Karma without the religion part. I believe that the things that happen in this life, was result of my bad Karma in my other life, and I just have to keep putting out good Karma to have a better next life ^_^
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FallenDreamer on 2005-10-26 at 01:41:37
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Oct 25 2005, 11:15 PM)
I believe in Karma without the religion part.  I believe that the things that happen in this life, was result of my bad Karma in my other life, and I just have to keep putting out good Karma to have a better next life ^_^
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Hah. Scientifically, that is true, if you assume certain things. So it's more hypothetically, rather than scientifically.

If you do something that greatly contributes to your race, and die, and your body is somehow reused and you put into the form of another human child, then when you are "reborn," the world may have improved because of something you have done in the past. Possible, but not likely to happen anytime soon(within the span of 300 years), especially if you choose to be burried in a coffin.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Camo on 2005-10-26 at 18:46:53
Only one thing to say to this:
My Dogma will eat your Karma.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FallenDreamer on 2005-10-27 at 01:46:32
QUOTE(Mr.Camo @ Oct 26 2005, 04:46 PM)
Only one thing to say to this:
My Dogma will eat your Karma.
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Oh trust me, the Karma will pop right back out on the other side...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-10-27 at 20:02:38
I'm not sure if this is related to Karma:

I've always thought of bullying as a form of theft. You are technically stealing their happiness, and if they don't let it get to them, you get no happiness. There are many other examples I have, but Happiness seems to transfer, like energy. Seems. This is just through my observations. When someone tells a joke and everybody laughs, I imagine somebody being tortured in China.

Just my opinion of course. I beleive in the transfer of happiness, if that has anything to do with Karma.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sessase on 2005-10-27 at 20:07:03
I believe In a Kind Of Karma...

Lemme explain.
A bully some day will be beaten. Cause of Karma? Kinda.
If a bully Beat some persons, one of these days some one will fight him back, cause of his reputation, Maybe a victim of him or even by another bully.


I call Karma... Reputation.
Be nice with people and people will be nice to you.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-10-27 at 20:08:03
Hmm, you're looking at it differently..
Simplest possible terms: Treat your faith and others well and you will be treated well.

BTW, did you know that that is the base idea of all religions? So I'm not so sure that helped then.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-10-30 at 07:02:44
I believe in karma. I think that deeds that you do will effect your future. Ex. You give some1 an popsicle. the next day you recieve a popsicle. Equal rewards. You will probolly not notice it but you will reap what you sow either in this life or in heaven or hell :0
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2005-10-30 at 09:05:42
Yes oh yes I believe in Karma. All of my life I have seen people get what they deserve (be it good or bad) based on their actions. I've had bad and good stuff happen to me based on my actions. I mean without fail, every time. I don't know if this is unique to my life or if it's just my outlook, but I am speaking from experience here
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2005-10-30 at 09:59:54
I do not believe in any such thing.
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