Report, edit, etc...Posted by in_a_biskit on 2005-11-04 at 00:15:37
It occurs to me that quite a few newer members don't have a very good idea about what the common social codes and etiquette at SEN.
Not all, but many of these rules aren't (and shouldn't be) part of the written rules or regulations, or if they are, can be misunderstood by people who haven't had much experience in SEN. Examples of the types of rules I'm referring to are the expected tone of conversation (some newcomers treat the forums as they would a chat room), what is comsidered spam, what level of rudeness is considered flaming, when to use BBcode, the invincibility of Moose, what each forum is for, and so on.
I would suggest that this problem might be reduced by a measure such as not allowing new members to post until they've read at least five different topics, or until one week into their membership, or only allow them to post in the news/feedback forums, or allow them to post, but not create new topic until that 'quaratine period' has passed. The idea is that hopefully by making new members read others' posts before they post themselves, the quality of their posts might be improved.
What do you think? Is this a real problem? Is the proposed solution valid? Do you have a better solution?
Not all, but many of these rules aren't (and shouldn't be) part of the written rules or regulations, or if they are, can be misunderstood by people who haven't had much experience in SEN. Examples of the types of rules I'm referring to are the expected tone of conversation (some newcomers treat the forums as they would a chat room), what is comsidered spam, what level of rudeness is considered flaming, when to use BBcode, the invincibility of Moose, what each forum is for, and so on.
I would suggest that this problem might be reduced by a measure such as not allowing new members to post until they've read at least five different topics, or until one week into their membership, or only allow them to post in the news/feedback forums, or allow them to post, but not create new topic until that 'quaratine period' has passed. The idea is that hopefully by making new members read others' posts before they post themselves, the quality of their posts might be improved.
What do you think? Is this a real problem? Is the proposed solution valid? Do you have a better solution?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pepsi. on 2005-11-04 at 00:22:47
Why would you say that.
Noobs dont all spam. Kind of steroetype. Im new and I dont really spam. by the way is it even possible to make it where new people who just join sen can look at 5 threads before they can post is that even possible?? Also newbs who just logged on would think i cant reply screw this then just leave, wouldnt you think that
Noobs dont all spam. Kind of steroetype. Im new and I dont really spam. by the way is it even possible to make it where new people who just join sen can look at 5 threads before they can post is that even possible?? Also newbs who just logged on would think i cant reply screw this then just leave, wouldnt you think that
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-11-04 at 00:29:18
QUOTE(IP @ SEN Beta v5)
Due to some things discussed awhile ago with yoshi, I came up with this idea:
New members start with 0 admin karma.
People with under 5 admin karma get their posts put into mod preview mode.
Each post accepted while under 5 admin karma adds one karma to their count.
This basically means, a new member will have to write 5 posts that are accepted before they can post directly on the forums. It's supposed to cut down on people who come on here just to flame or what not. As far as work load goes with mods/globals/admins, accepting posts would simply mean checking them off in the modcp (you will not have to go hunting for them every couple hours). Any opinions?
New members start with 0 admin karma.
People with under 5 admin karma get their posts put into mod preview mode.
Each post accepted while under 5 admin karma adds one karma to their count.
This basically means, a new member will have to write 5 posts that are accepted before they can post directly on the forums. It's supposed to cut down on people who come on here just to flame or what not. As far as work load goes with mods/globals/admins, accepting posts would simply mean checking them off in the modcp (you will not have to go hunting for them every couple hours). Any opinions?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RexyRex on 2005-11-04 at 01:11:48
HEYNOPOSTINGFROMTHEv5FORUM.
Don't expect that feature for a while anyways.
Don't expect that feature for a while anyways.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow_Lover on 2005-11-04 at 02:20:44
Just curious. What will be sen like. New terrian background. What new smiles, new emotions. and also How come it will take to so long. I mean you have been working on it im guessing like 3 years. Still not finished? how close are you??? how much percent
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2005-11-04 at 02:22:59
you should stop asking questions before you get shot or something......asking stuff like that is like asking the feds about top secret info
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-11-04 at 10:27:13
IP just hasn't been working on it nonstop. He has a life, you know.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2005-11-04 at 11:07:13
I never understood the karma stuff.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-11-04 at 15:00:05
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Nov 4 2005, 01:29 AM)
QUOTE(IP @ SEN Beta v5)
Due to some things discussed awhile ago with yoshi, I came up with this idea:
New members start with 0 admin karma.
People with under 5 admin karma get their posts put into mod preview mode.
Each post accepted while under 5 admin karma adds one karma to their count.
This basically means, a new member will have to write 5 posts that are accepted before they can post directly on the forums. It's supposed to cut down on people who come on here just to flame or what not. As far as work load goes with mods/globals/admins, accepting posts would simply mean checking them off in the modcp (you will not have to go hunting for them every couple hours). Any opinions?
New members start with 0 admin karma.
People with under 5 admin karma get their posts put into mod preview mode.
Each post accepted while under 5 admin karma adds one karma to their count.
This basically means, a new member will have to write 5 posts that are accepted before they can post directly on the forums. It's supposed to cut down on people who come on here just to flame or what not. As far as work load goes with mods/globals/admins, accepting posts would simply mean checking them off in the modcp (you will not have to go hunting for them every couple hours). Any opinions?
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How about let people other than mods do that
Doesn't seem like a hard job, how about let members with elite status do it 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Insane.oO on 2005-11-04 at 15:35:40
I have only been on sen since august and I dont spam but than again im not exactially a noob 2 sen i got 3 months anyways not all the new people 2 sen are spammers alot of members are spammers tho and not all of them are new
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2005-11-04 at 16:27:05
How about we let -300 post people do it 
Just a suggestion
Just a suggestion
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2005-11-04 at 16:57:36
First off, let me lay down my definitions:
Newbie - A person new to a place.
Noobie - The spammers/flamers you're referring to.
Common social and etiquette rules? If it is stupid or you think its stupid, don't do it. You want another rule? If it is stupid, you do it and get punished, don't do it again. There's a good chance you won't be banned on a minor offense for the first shot. Most specific do's and don'ts should be in the FAQ section... which I should update.
And if you really need something to go by: "Would Moose post this?"
Newbie - A person new to a place.
Noobie - The spammers/flamers you're referring to.
Common social and etiquette rules? If it is stupid or you think its stupid, don't do it. You want another rule? If it is stupid, you do it and get punished, don't do it again. There's a good chance you won't be banned on a minor offense for the first shot. Most specific do's and don'ts should be in the FAQ section... which I should update.
And if you really need something to go by: "Would Moose post this?"
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-11-04 at 17:54:25
I think that's a bad example since Moose can post anything without any real consquences.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dr.Shotgun on 2005-11-04 at 18:04:48
Unless Synd][cate or IP turns on him.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2005-11-04 at 18:11:15
Moose is like Jesus.
Only God can hurt him
Let's not get technical about what I just said.
Okay?
Only God can hurt him
Let's not get technical about what I just said.
Okay?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2005-11-04 at 20:40:58
Yes, I can, but that isn't how I got here.
"Would Moose post this if he were a regular member?"
"Would Moose post this if he were a regular member?"
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2005-11-04 at 20:44:08
W.W.M.D.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RexyRex on 2005-11-04 at 22:30:53
The welcome PM should lay down some of the rules and make SURE they are understood.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow_Lover on 2005-11-04 at 23:17:32
QUOTE(RexyRex @ Nov 4 2005, 09:30 PM)
The welcome PM should lay down some of the rules and make SURE they are understood.
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Ok yeah um. Rexy i have been meaning to ask you. yeah um are you a jew. Just curious because look at your avatar. Yeah so im are you a jew and sorry if this is offensive
Ok now newbie control its not a big deal, sorry if this offends you but get over it
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Merrell on 2005-11-05 at 00:50:40
Okay stupid, first of all, about 90% of SEN are atheists, and just because you are a jew, doesn't mean you don't believe in the bible. Jews believe in God but call it yaasya or something close.
But since you're only 10 you wouldn't understand..
But since you're only 10 you wouldn't understand..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by The_Shattered_moose on 2005-11-05 at 01:03:05
Wait, how did Rexy's avatar make you think she was jewish, it clearly states an atheist message.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RexyRex on 2005-11-05 at 01:26:42
Because Kow_Lover is retarded.
Anyways, Kow_Lover's example just drives the point of this topic home - we need some firmer guidelines...people are running amok...
Anyways, Kow_Lover's example just drives the point of this topic home - we need some firmer guidelines...people are running amok...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2005-11-05 at 11:28:31
Maybe it's all more trouble than it's worth... although already half implemented, I might hold off on this idea for awhile. Keep giving opinions on this matter though...
Reading 5 different topics doesn't seem like it would prove anything.
1 week waiting period / not creating topics would defeat the point of registering to use the map assistance forum...
However, maybe, only allowing them to post in certain forums until various days passed might be nice?
1 week, 5 posts until they can post in serious dicussion...
2 weeks, 15 posts until they can post in feedback...
3 weeks, 35 post until they can attempt to make a news topic...
The only thing I don't like about that would be different rules running around for each forum.
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I would suggest that this problem might be reduced by a measure such as not allowing new members to post until they've read at least five different topics, or until one week into their membership, or only allow them to post in the news/feedback forums, or allow them to post, but not create new topic until that 'quaratine period' has passed. The idea is that hopefully by making new members read others' posts before they post themselves, the quality of their posts might be improved.
Reading 5 different topics doesn't seem like it would prove anything.
1 week waiting period / not creating topics would defeat the point of registering to use the map assistance forum...
However, maybe, only allowing them to post in certain forums until various days passed might be nice?
1 week, 5 posts until they can post in serious dicussion...
2 weeks, 15 posts until they can post in feedback...
3 weeks, 35 post until they can attempt to make a news topic...
The only thing I don't like about that would be different rules running around for each forum.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-11-05 at 11:48:22
You can (or used to be able to) guest post in Feedback. Why on earth have a limit. The limited forums should be:
Null: 3 days to post; 7 to start a topic
Lite Discussion: 5 days to post; 10 to start a topic
Serious Discussion: 10 days to post; 20 to start a topic
Null: 3 days to post; 7 to start a topic
Lite Discussion: 5 days to post; 10 to start a topic
Serious Discussion: 10 days to post; 20 to start a topic
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2005-11-05 at 14:03:37
I still say the Karma system on GameFAQs is a good system.