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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-11-11 at 22:39:35
Coming up in early 2007 "Dr." Jack Kevorkian will be eligible for parole after serving about 13 years in prison for the assisted suicide of approximantly 100 terminally ill people.

Do you think his imprisonment / what he did was right?

Do you think he should make parole a year and a half from now?



If you didn't know his extent he constructed suicide machines out of spare parts, and helped clients into them. Had one of his patients deaths broadcast on 60 minutes, and lastly opened an actual suicide clinic.

(people too lazy to tab over to wikipedia)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by notnuclearrabbit on 2005-11-11 at 22:40:45
[center]As long as you have the right to live the way you choose, why not death?[/center]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2005-11-11 at 22:44:40
Woops I thought we were talking about some religious fellow.

I'm all for euthenasia, strictly regulated of course.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-11-11 at 22:44:53
For a grey argument like this, 13 years is long enough. In some eyes, he can be sort of a hero, in others, a complete monster.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by littlemonkey128 on 2005-11-11 at 22:45:47
Death should not be assisted, death must only come naturally.
I don't belive in EUTHANASIA. I belive in what the Roman catholic church tells me.
So basically he deserves what he has done, helping others die is a joke! People should all die naturally!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-11-11 at 22:48:12
Don't let him be a doctor or open up any sort of suicide clinic and we will be fine.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-11-11 at 23:31:36
QUOTE(littlemonkey128 @ Nov 11 2005, 08:45 PM)
I belive in what the Roman catholic church tells me.[right][snapback]353746[/snapback][/right]


So you believe in lies?




I believe that Euthinasia is wrong.

But let him go. 13 is plenty of years.

Just ban him from practicing anything like that ever again
Report, edit, etc...Posted by littlemonkey128 on 2005-11-11 at 23:41:06
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Nov 11 2005, 10:31 PM)
So you believe in lies?
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How dare you insult me and my church.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-11-11 at 23:45:05
He cant be convicted for murder when he was told to do this...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-11-11 at 23:48:13
Can someone tell me what Euthinasia so I can understand what you guys are talking about?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-11-12 at 00:00:26
Assisted Suicide
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-11-12 at 00:04:02
QUOTE(warhammer40000 @ Nov 11 2005, 11:45 PM)
He cant be convicted for murder when he was told to do this...
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The one that was broadcast he did the needle himself.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-11-12 at 00:05:24
QUOTE(littlemonkey128 @ Nov 11 2005, 09:41 PM)
How dare you insult me and my church.
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I did not insult you. I insulted your church.

If you're going to wine about it, that's what PMs are for.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-11-12 at 01:36:59
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I belive in what the Roman catholic church tells me.


You believe...

In intelligent design?
That pi is equal to 3?
Prior to 1992, you believed the Earth was the center of the universe?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2005-11-12 at 02:05:41
He should be set free...


If they wanted to go, whats wrong with that? its really messed up that he was thrown in jail (or was he?)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2005-11-12 at 13:23:08
QUOTE(littlemonkey128 @ Nov 11 2005, 10:45 PM)
Death should not be assisted, death must only come naturally.
I don't belive in EUTHANASIA. I belive in what the Roman catholic church tells me.
So basically he deserves what he has done, helping others die is a joke! People should all die naturally!
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This "church doctrine is the absolute authority" thing really needs to end.

As for me, set 'em loose. Euthanasia isn't mandatory. A person's life is their own property, and they can choose when to end it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2005-11-12 at 13:25:58
he was doing them a favor by getting rid of their pain..... sad.gif

unless he persuaded them to commit suicide, i think he should be set free
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-11-12 at 13:27:39
QUOTE(littlemonkey128 @ Nov 11 2005, 08:41 PM)
How dare you insult me and my church.
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Yea Kellimus please dude, insulting his and my church is way off topic and uncalled for, pm each other, that was a low I never thought you would go to cause your a good debater.

Ok so in my opinion a doctor=some one that heals people. That basically what a doctor is so I beleive doctors shouldn't assiste in killing people, even if they do want to die (Any one seen the movie Million Dollar Baby? such as sad movie and relates to this topic)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dr.Shotgun on 2005-11-12 at 14:29:18
I think assisted suicide is fine. S.T.A.R.S is forgetting about mental health. What about patients who don't want to live the rest of their life a sa vegetable? What about people who don't want to live sh**tting out of a tube? Certain people realize that they don't want to live an artificially prolonged life, or dies of terminal cancer, or something painful as that, so they simply end their life painlessly. These people are not freaks, Dr.Kervokian is not a maniac murderer. He is trying to help people who have been diagnosed with debilitating illness.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2005-11-12 at 14:55:36
If theres no hjope for the person and they are in pain they should have the choice to commit suicide. Also I don't think kellimus is wrong by saying what he did about the church. As DT showed they do tell some lies. Also littlemonkey, don't say "how dare you!" because what are you gonna do about it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by littlemonkey128 on 2005-11-12 at 15:37:46
QUOTE(Euro @ Nov 12 2005, 01:55 PM)
Also littlemonkey, don't say "how dare you!" because what are you gonna do about it?
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I don't know why I got involed in this Discussion >.<... Internet Drama!

I'll just stick with what i belive in.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Neiji on 2005-11-12 at 15:45:57
littlemonkey, if you didn't get Kellimus warned, this forum is sum joke where religioin is the only discrimination.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rogue_Phoenix on 2005-11-12 at 15:52:44
If someone's life is going to continue for years in agony I feel that since it is their own life they have the right to end it or have it ended.

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littlemonkey128: Yesterday, 08:47 PM
Death should not be assisted, death must only come naturally


Now how about we turn that around and make it apply to life?
Almost all of those patients were on some form of life support and would have died had it not been for us assisting life; and therefore by your reasoning we should not assist life because it must only come naturally. I feel if there is a God she gave us brains for a reason, if death is a better option than life I feel it should be allowed.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Atreyu) on 2005-11-12 at 16:09:32
i never liked him i say he stays in jail and dies there
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Infested-Jerk on 2005-11-12 at 21:08:03
This is probably the grayest argument I'll ever see, but.

Terminaly Ill. That phrase meant that they were going to die. And (excepting odd "mircales" or "unsolved mysteries" that somehow a person is cured of said Termin Diesease) they would have died.

Is ir right to end the suffering of someone who is going to die anyways?
Is it right to kill when they would have died?
But is the above argument just giving murderers an excuse, because everyone dies?
But, saying that, did the doctor just do what the patients wanted?
But, as terminaly ill, were they of sound mind?

Sorry, I have no stance, I'll never be able to answer these questions myself, because my life is my life, and I will life it to the last breath that I take.
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