Report, edit, etc...Posted by Medieval_Massacre on 2005-12-04 at 15:52:07
Hi I did everything in the tutorial.
-Ran ai script protoss easy
-Set units hp to 50% and Units shields to 60%
-Set Shield battery energy to 100%
-Put a pylon next to the shield battery
I used Dark archons and set the hp of the shield battery and pylon to 1 and shield points to 0/0, but the dark archons have regular life. What am i doing wrong?
-Ran ai script protoss easy
-Set units hp to 50% and Units shields to 60%
-Set Shield battery energy to 100%
-Put a pylon next to the shield battery
I used Dark archons and set the hp of the shield battery and pylon to 1 and shield points to 0/0, but the dark archons have regular life. What am i doing wrong?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MAP- on 2005-12-04 at 16:17:33
well to start it you need unit in certain location, then you do the 100% mark 4 the shield uh im lost 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Medieval_Massacre on 2005-12-04 at 16:19:50
i followed this http://www.staredit.net/index.php?tutorial=175
At least i think i did. Any reason why it won't work?
At least i think i did. Any reason why it won't work?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Joshgt2 on 2005-12-04 at 16:36:29
QUOTE(MAP- @ Dec 4 2005, 04:17 PM)
well to start it you need unit in certain location, then you do the 100% mark 4 the shield uh im lost
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Wow... If you don't know what to say then don't say anything.
I don't know what is wrong with what you are doing... I am thinking that when you said that the Archons what the regular health of 100/100 (this is an example) then you said there sheilds were 0/0. The shields have to be able to regenerate at least. Make the shields like 0/10 and then try it out.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Medieval_Massacre on 2005-12-04 at 19:02:48
No I left the Dark Archon's Shields the default and i set it to 60%
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Joshgt2 on 2005-12-04 at 19:13:23
I can't tell you what your problem is then. Maybe the battery does not want to use the shield recovery because maybe it thinks that it doesn't have to since it is only at 60%
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kumano on 2005-12-04 at 20:46:51
It says about 60%, so I guess it could be that it's actually a bit lower then 60%. Or it might be 60%, but the shield regenerates by 1 and it's no longer at 60% or lower and shield battery wasn't told to recover the shields in between.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Urmom(U) on 2005-12-04 at 21:07:06
try having a unit attack it or something to provoke it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by blaze_baby on 2005-12-05 at 00:31:09
u could just put a location around the shield battery and then when u bring ur unit there u could do it manually, or is that not what u want?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Diggidoyo on 2005-12-05 at 00:43:10
He wants computer players to do it... not human players.
- Recovering Shields "Shield Battery use" -
*Run a melee AI (doesn't have to be a protoss one)
*Will use it on any unit with around 60% of its shields and missing at least some HP (even 1 point)
*The computer will use it on hero units in the same way but they don't have to be missing any HP but it seems the 2nd time later in game that it has to have about 20% of its shields or less
*Works even if the unit is invincible
*Won't restore allies and shield recover doesn't work on buildings anyway
*Note: You can make a shield battery recover never stop trying to recover a unit if you keep restoring the batteries energy and depleting the units shields quickly by trigger (it also shows through cloaking)
That's what the tutorial says.
You said you followed it exactly. And reading that and what you did I can see what you did wrong.
- Recovering Shields "Shield Battery use" -
*Run a melee AI (doesn't have to be a protoss one)
*Will use it on any unit with around 60% of its shields and missing at least some HP (even 1 point)
*The computer will use it on hero units in the same way but they don't have to be missing any HP but it seems the 2nd time later in game that it has to have about 20% of its shields or less
*Works even if the unit is invincible
*Won't restore allies and shield recover doesn't work on buildings anyway
*Note: You can make a shield battery recover never stop trying to recover a unit if you keep restoring the batteries energy and depleting the units shields quickly by trigger (it also shows through cloaking)
That's what the tutorial says.
You said you followed it exactly. And reading that and what you did I can see what you did wrong.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Subrosian on 2005-12-05 at 01:38:44
QUOTE(Diggidoyo @ Dec 4 2005, 11:43 PM)
Point #2 says it will use it on a unit with 60% of its shields MISSING. Your trigger sets unit shields TO 60%. That means they are only MISSING 40% of their shields. You need to set their shields TO 40%
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QUOTE(Diggidoyo @ Dec 4 2005, 11:43 PM)
*Will use it on any unit with around 60% of its shields and missing at least some HP (even 1 point)
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It says it has to be missing at least some HP, not 60% of the shields.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Diggidoyo on 2005-12-05 at 01:43:41
Yes I know that but he already has a trigger that sets his hp to 50% so that's not where his problem lies. What I posted will fix HIS problem.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Subrosian on 2005-12-05 at 19:05:45
lol...
i meant that it doesnt say that it needs 60% missing shields.
i meant that it doesnt say that it needs 60% missing shields.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Diggidoyo on 2005-12-05 at 19:33:27
Eh... I think you need to read the tutorial again....:
- Recovering Shields "Shield Battery use" -
*Run a melee AI (doesn't have to be a protoss one)
*Will use it on any unit with around 60% of its shields and missing at least some HP (even 1 point)
*The computer will use it on hero units in the same way but they don't have to be missing any HP but it seems the 2nd time later in game that it has to have about 20% of its shields or less
*Works even if the unit is invincible
*Won't restore allies and shield recover doesn't work on buildings anyway
*Note: You can make a shield battery recover never stop trying to recover a unit if you keep restoring the batteries energy and depleting the units shields quickly by trigger (it also shows through cloaking)
ADDITION:
I think you're reading it wrong. 60% of its shields implies it's missing 40% of its shields.
ADDITION:
*Will use it on any unit missing at least 40% of its shields and some HP (even 1 point)
Maybe that can be read clearer.
- Recovering Shields "Shield Battery use" -
*Run a melee AI (doesn't have to be a protoss one)
*Will use it on any unit with around 60% of its shields and missing at least some HP (even 1 point)
*The computer will use it on hero units in the same way but they don't have to be missing any HP but it seems the 2nd time later in game that it has to have about 20% of its shields or less
*Works even if the unit is invincible
*Won't restore allies and shield recover doesn't work on buildings anyway
*Note: You can make a shield battery recover never stop trying to recover a unit if you keep restoring the batteries energy and depleting the units shields quickly by trigger (it also shows through cloaking)
ADDITION:
I think you're reading it wrong. 60% of its shields implies it's missing 40% of its shields.
ADDITION:
*Will use it on any unit missing at least 40% of its shields and some HP (even 1 point)
Maybe that can be read clearer.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Subrosian on 2005-12-05 at 21:34:26
Yes, it needs 60% of its shields. But you said it needs 60% MISSING.
Here:
..When will you understand?
Notice what I said.
I said that it DOESN'T say that it needs 60% missing shields.
SO you are contradicting nothing.
ADDITION:
What the heck are you talking about? Are you saying it has 40% shields missing, 60% shields or 60% shields missing?
Here:
QUOTE(Diggidoyo @ Dec 4 2005, 11:43 PM)
Point #2 says it will use it on a unit with 60% of its shields MISSING. Your trigger sets unit shields TO 60%. That means they are only MISSING 40% of their shields. You need to set their shields TO 40%
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..When will you understand?
QUOTE(Subrosian @ Dec 5 2005, 06:05 PM)
lol...
i meant that it doesnt say that it needs 60% missing shields.
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i meant that it doesnt say that it needs 60% missing shields.
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Notice what I said.
I said that it DOESN'T say that it needs 60% missing shields.
SO you are contradicting nothing.
ADDITION:
What the heck are you talking about? Are you saying it has 40% shields missing, 60% shields or 60% shields missing?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Diggidoyo on 2005-12-05 at 21:51:58
Where, in any one of my posts, did I ever say the unit has to be missing 60% of its shields?
ADDITION:
40% shields missing, 60% shields
Those mean the same things... its like saying the cup is 40% empty or 60% full
ADDITION:
40% shields missing, 60% shields
Those mean the same things... its like saying the cup is 40% empty or 60% full
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Subrosian on 2005-12-06 at 00:00:05
lol you edited it out
I've said it everywhere in this thread.
ADDITION:
When did I disagree with that?
QUOTE
Point #2 says it will use it on a unit with 60% of its shields MISSING. Your trigger sets unit shields TO 60%. That means they are only MISSING 40% of their shields. You need to set their shields TO 40%
I've said it everywhere in this thread.
ADDITION:
QUOTE(Diggidoyo @ Dec 5 2005, 08:51 PM)
ADDITION:
40% shields missing, 60% shields
Those mean the same things... its like saying the cup is 40% empty or 60% full
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40% shields missing, 60% shields
Those mean the same things... its like saying the cup is 40% empty or 60% full
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When did I disagree with that?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Diggidoyo on 2005-12-06 at 00:12:51
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Point #2 says it will use it on a unit with 60% of its shields MISSING. Your trigger sets unit shields TO 60%. That means they are only MISSING 40% of their shields. You need to set their shields TO 40%
eh... YOU CAN'T PROVE I SAID THAT!!!!
... haha.. ok
QUOTE
40% shields missing, 60% shields
Those mean the same things... its like saying the cup is 40% empty or 60% full
Those mean the same things... its like saying the cup is 40% empty or 60% full
That's what my mindset has been the whole but I don't somethin is screwy but it doesn't even look the creator of this topic even cares becuase I haven't even heard him pipe up at all in any of this so either he doesn't care or its fix soooo gg.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Medieval_Massacre on 2005-12-07 at 01:43:52
eh, i think there's a bit of off topic stuff here, so can someone like make a map that shows me what to do?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Diggidoyo on 2005-12-07 at 02:04:19
Yeah here's a map. I gave you a marine so just damage the dark archon a bit (w/out killin it) towards the shield battery and the shield battery will heal it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-12-07 at 03:39:17
ROFL!! That was one of the weirdest arguments I've seen here.
Sorry to be off topic.
And, uhh.... Make sure the unit is in range or something too.
Sorry to be off topic.
And, uhh.... Make sure the unit is in range or something too.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by fm47 on 2005-12-07 at 04:06:38
Did you make sure you have the Dark Archon's normal health is not 100/100? He needs to be damaged at least a little. Also make sure the Dark Archon's shield doesn't regenerate past 60% or past whatever point the computer would use the shield on it.
So for example:
The tutorial said that the computer will use the shield battery when
A) The unit is damaged (even just 1 hp)
B) The unit's shield is around 60%
Ok, so let's pretend that the computer will use the shield battery when A is qualified, and let it will use the shield battery at exactly 60% and down.
So you've qualified A, the Dark Archon's life is 149/150. Now B, you had its shield set to 60/100 (or whatever fraction you want to use, 60/100 is just easier to understand with), so you've qualified B. But here's the problem... Suddenly your Dark Archon regenerated 1 shield, therefore its shield is now 61/100; 61% of its shield.
This might have already been answered, if yes, then my bad, but if you didn't understand it, I hope my post helped.
Edit==
Also, all you guys arguing isn't helping the fellow... if anything you're confusing him...
So for example:
The tutorial said that the computer will use the shield battery when
A) The unit is damaged (even just 1 hp)
B) The unit's shield is around 60%
Ok, so let's pretend that the computer will use the shield battery when A is qualified, and let it will use the shield battery at exactly 60% and down.
So you've qualified A, the Dark Archon's life is 149/150. Now B, you had its shield set to 60/100 (or whatever fraction you want to use, 60/100 is just easier to understand with), so you've qualified B. But here's the problem... Suddenly your Dark Archon regenerated 1 shield, therefore its shield is now 61/100; 61% of its shield.
This might have already been answered, if yes, then my bad, but if you didn't understand it, I hope my post helped.
Edit==
Also, all you guys arguing isn't helping the fellow... if anything you're confusing him...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Diggidoyo on 2005-12-07 at 05:45:58
Read my last post ^ (last post on page 1)I gave him a map. Should answer all his questions.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by fm47 on 2005-12-07 at 05:59:55
aye, I saw the map post, but I wasn't sure if it explained the shield regeneration and whatnot, but since u made it and knew it worked, I had an idea that it would. My bad if I wasn't considerate enough to go through the map first... ><
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Medieval_Massacre on 2005-12-07 at 19:51:31
Well i downloaded it and attacked the dark archon, but it wouldnt regenerate until the shield was almost to 0. I wonder if you made the shield like 0% whatwould happen? could you do that for me Diggidoyo? I would but i'm swamped with homework...