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Time and time again, I have seen people complaining about Bush; more specifically, his military whatever-the-hell-you-call-it. And time and time again, I have seen people respond to these people with insults full of hatred, anger.

I personally had someone tell me the other day that I deserved to be eaten alive because I didn't support Bush's decision to go to war. She screamed at me and told me how her relatives/U.S. citizens/etc etc were in Iraq fighting for my freedom, and that I was a heartless illegitimate child for condemning our beloved soldiers to death.



I can't believe how many people do this. I'm not seeing a connection between disliking the war and Iraq and the desire for more U.S. soldiers to die. If I really felt the way she said I did, wouldn't I be one of the people sitting at home, yelling "Go get em!" ?

I'm not understanding how wanting the military to LEAVE Iraq is the equivalent of killing our soldiers.


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It's not like the soldiers didn't know what they were getting into. They signed up for the military. It was not forced. They want to fight.

If we pull out now, all we gained would be for naught. Those lives would be lost for nothing.

But they (these radical random militants) never make that particular point. I would understand if that's what their problem was. But I find it very insulting when people tell me that because, from the very beginning, I was against the invasion Iraq (before there were any deaths, that is) that I was also supporting to death of our military. I'm currently living with my aunt and uncle. My uncle is an a certain division that was recently thrown into the "big lottery hat" for deciding which soldiers were being sent to Iraq. He wasn't chosen, but our neighbor, a friend of his, was.




Maybe I'm just tired, and aren't understanding what you said quite right. If so, I apologize. I've gotten 6 hours of sleep over the past 3 nights, so I'm feeling rather sluggish.

Yeah, your lack of sleep is showing a bit in the coherence of your post. Sleep. You need it!

I was just saying how they signed up for the military. They were not forced into it.

Fighting for our freedom is the stupidest reason for excusing the war. Now if they said fighting for their freedom yes, but it has very little to no relationship with the US.

These are the same people who coalesce their entire stance on Bush's presidency into three words: "Support Our Troops"

...okay? Now what? It's on bumperstickers, campaign signs, advertisements, shirts, stickers, magnets, pens, pencils, everything..

It's just a phrase that people use, as though saying it all the time somehow aids the military in their quest to fundamentally alter the population base of a region rooted in completely different traditions in about two years.

They're all mindless drones who are impressed by grandoise displays of the flag and military personnel in Class A's. Parades are like international fashion shows for the like-minded rural folk who vote on the party line because that's what they've always done. For people who are afraid of change, they're sure eager to change things..

Would you rather be out there?

Freedom isn't free.

We gained something? Those lost lives weren't already for nothing?

Saddam is no longer in power. Insurgeons do not have complete control of the country anymore. Just heard about an Iraqi voting session. Do you not think that's progress?

What does a diffused campaign of urban warfare waged against the U.S. military have to do with whether or not I live in a dictatorship?

I was pointing out that the majority of the "rally" supporters of the conflict really do nothing of practical value, yet delude themselves into thinking they somehow have the high ground.

I can agree with you there.

[center]I can support the military, and not support the war.
Every country needs a defence force. If we didn't have a military, this country would be attacked until nothing was left.
I do NOT support the war. We didn't need to go invade Iraq, Saddam was a threat, but not one that needed military action.[/center]

How, then, would you suggest removing him from power, Nuclear?

[center]Violence wasn't the answer.[/center]

Perhaps you should read into the history of Iraq under Saddam's regime.

Between 1992 and 2003, Hussein was rebuilding his war machine after the costly failure in the Gulf War, which itself came after the eight-year war with Iran. The Iraq-Iran war itself incurred millions of casualties, and considering the approximate population of Iraq (currently under 15,000,000), that's a large proportion of the population. During that war, he had to borrow billions of dollars from other countries to continue funding his nation, and afterwards the debts were astronomical.

So, those 11 years after the Gulf War were something of a cooldown time. The difference here is that these things are accepted as fact. They happened, and there was a tangible basis for the Gulf War (Iraqi invasion of Kuwait). The 2003 invasion and subsequent occupation of Iraq, however, remains controversial, as evidenced by nearly a straight year of the Presidential approval rating dropping.

There has yet to be any substantial evidence that he had the raw materials or the capabilities to construct and utilize "weapons of mass destruction." The general hunch of a man who sits behind a desk six hours a day is not evidence. Hussein was not a threat to anyone other than the people within his domain, but did we go to war over that? No, yet there is plenty of evidence of torture, rape, mass murder and the like.

American politics are confounding.

even though our are still going into iraq for a stupid reason doesnt mean that we should stop supporting our soldiers. the "war" will probolly not end for years.
we are trading blood for oil...

i am not for the war but i am for our soldiers.

Its not your right to tell me that I have to fight in a war that im against.

If it was because of the WMDs that didn't exist, why aren't we going after North Korea?

If it was because of terrorist connections, why didn't we go after Saudi Arabia?

If it was because of cruelty, why didn't we go in during the genocide in Sudan?

There was no real sufficient reason for us to attack Iraq. Bush just wanted oil and revenge on Saddam.

Hey, there's no draft. Stay home and do your shiz.