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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-12-21 at 02:21:30
Millions of New York commuters battled their way home in freezing temperatures Tuesday during a strike by transit workers, which a judge has ruled illegal. Judge Theodore Jones said the union was in contempt of two court injunctions ordering it not to strike, and he ordered that the union be fined $1 million a day beginning Tuesday.

Do you think this is fair to the union, Or did they have it coming?

Post your thoughts here.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-12-21 at 02:50:37
The poor old judge had to walk home...

Its not right in my eyes how they are forced to work. (Or rather to simply stop not working.)
It definately sounds like our justice system though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lil_nemesis on 2005-12-21 at 07:17:39
By doing this it's probebly the only way they are going to get a pay raise if they dont they won't. Sometimes extreme measures have to be used to get people to listen to them. It should not be classed illegal that it wrong.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tmac on 2005-12-21 at 12:55:33
Hey I got off from school so I support it.

My christmas vacation started 2 days earlier!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by notnuclearrabbit on 2005-12-21 at 22:26:54
[center]Capitolism breaks everything. If they weren't forced to do a job they hated, just so they can earn enough money to stay alive, we wouldn't be having these types of problems. *Points to siggy*[/center]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2005-12-23 at 02:55:14
Why did the judge consider the strikes illegal?

Yeah nuclear, anarchy would make all the problems go away and everyone would have a better life [sarcasm/]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2005-12-23 at 03:52:42
QUOTE(Mp)Shorty @ Dec 21 2005, 02:21 AM)
Millions of New York commuters battled their way home in freezing temperatures Tuesday during a strike by transit workers, which a judge has ruled illegal. Judge Theodore Jones said the union was in contempt of two court injunctions ordering it not to strike, and he ordered that the union be fined $1 million a day beginning Tuesday.

Do you think this is fair to the union, Or did they have it coming?

Post your thoughts here.
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*sigh* People today are getting too lazy nowadays. Its not hard to walk home even though you dont have buses and subways. I got around Montréal, Canada(hometown) pretty well for the 8 years I lived there. I was with my mom alot and she didnt have a car... so we WALKED... its not hard. *moves legs in a walk motion* See?
Another thing... if going on strike because you don't get money to support your family is against the law then... Lets put it this way... the judicial system SUCKS. Im with nuclearrabbit on this one
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2005-12-23 at 09:55:52
These stupid unions always cause problems. Look at the NHL.

QUOTE(The Politically Incorrect Guide to American History)
Some economists estimate that there could be 50 trillion more dollars in the economy if unions had never existed.


It said something like that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tmac on 2005-12-23 at 14:58:13
QUOTE(Pyro_Maniak14 @ Dec 23 2005, 03:52 AM)
*sigh* People today are getting too lazy nowadays. Its not hard to walk home even though you dont have buses and subways. I got around Montréal, Canada(hometown) pretty well for the 8 years I lived there. I was with my mom alot and she didnt have a car... so we WALKED... its not hard. *moves legs in a walk motion*  See?
Another thing... if going on strike because you don't get money to support your family is against the law then... Lets put it this way... the judicial system SUCKS. Im with nuclearrabbit on this one

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Do you have any idea how crowded it was?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-12-23 at 16:04:01
I'd say its ok for people not to go to work, but the whole city transit-working population can not go on strike.
This is a strike because, obviously, they want a pay raise.

From what I've heard, most transit people are getting from $3000-$4000 a month for unskilled labor. Thats equal to or more then teachers who had to pass an exam, etc and had to actually learn/know something are recieving (some teachers can be !@#$ers, though, I'm not exactly defending teachers, I'm attacking the strike people).

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Capitolism breaks everything. If they weren't forced to do a job they hated, just so they can earn enough money to stay alive, we wouldn't be having these types of problems. *Points to siggy*

The part about 'forced to do a job they hated' may be true, but they are still being payed enough, and they usually work as transit if they were either too stupid for anything else and no one else would hire them (most cases) or people who were unlucky and never had a chance to go to school in the first place.
At the moment, its impossible to give everyone what they want, because most of them would want the same jobs; Can you imagine anyone wanting to be a janitor?

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*sigh* People today are getting too lazy nowadays. Its not hard to walk home even though you dont have buses and subways. I got around Montréal, Canada(hometown) pretty well for the 8 years I lived there. I was with my mom alot and she didnt have a car... so we WALKED... its not hard. *moves legs in a walk motion* See?
Another thing... if going on strike because you don't get money to support your family is against the law then... Lets put it this way... the judicial system SUCKS. Im with nuclearrabbit on this one

In new york its different. The car traffic is terrible, in the areas with lots of skyscrapers ( biggrin.gif ) it can be hard to get across one street, and thats in an area where you have to cross a street every 400 meters or so.
There are LOTS of people in those skyscraper areas also going to work, so that will slow you down more.. It is extremely cold in New York (well, not today, but it was FREEZING before), so you can catch a cold and actually have to stop while going to work. Some people live in whole other areas of NYC, which means some people had to walk 20+ miles every day of the strike, and often in the conditions I had described above. It takes some people 8+ hours to get to work and home (together), and though not for most people, for some more, giving them no time to actually do the work, which they probably figured out by the second day and didn't attempt the trip..

The strangest thing is, somehow the teachers who live on Long Island got to my school in Queens, which I hadn't expected.
Anyway, I agree it should be illegal, even though I disagree on many other laws.
Teh Union had it coming, and they knew it, and if they didn't, they're idiots and had it coming.
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