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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-12-21 at 10:31:27

My ideas for punishments:

Murder - Quartering
Rape - Crucifixion
Armed Robbery - Loss of a Hand
Attempted Murder - Jail time wink.gif
Grand Larceny - Loss of a Hand.

I think the government needs to have more vicious, severe punishments. It will serve as an excellent deterrent for others. I'm so sick of hearing "Man kills 7, walks on parole."

People bring up that life in prison is cheaper than the death penalty.

I say that a .45 bullet costs about 50ยข and takes about two seconds to kill someone.

Crime is CRIME, there is no excuse. Either make something illegal or don't. That simple.




Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-12-21 at 12:20:20
I flat out agree with you. If people know they are going to lose a hand or their life for commiting a crime, they won't do it!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2005-12-21 at 14:21:41
This somewhat resembles the Code of Hamurabi, which has been long defunct.

Nice try though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2005-12-21 at 14:35:19
Its kind of an "overzealous" punishment... and sick... I know that rape is terrible but being crucified is like having body parts cut off with a dull machete... it should be more like. Attempted murder would be jail time but there are levels of attempted murder like shooting someone vs. hitting them with fists. Quatering for murder is a little too much but I guess its fair... w00t.gif And loss of a hand for theft... the ways of the Middle East... I would arrange the punishment differently
Rape - Loss of sexual organs.
Murder - For every death, cut off 2 body parts.
Larceny - Guilty person is imprisoned and the victim gets the guilty persons assets.
Armed Robbery - Loss of hand(s)
Attempted Murder -
Shooting - Loss of arm(s)
Stabbing - Loss of arm(s)
Hitting/Beating - Loss of hands
Other - Depends on extent of crime.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-12-21 at 14:50:20
QUOTE
This somewhat resembles the Code of Hamurabi, which has been long defunct.

Nice try though.


yeah code of hamurabi is like if you steal something you gotta pay 10x as much or you die. or something like that its very similar.

amputations are not always the best solution.

murder- forced suicide or life in jail
robbery- 1st offence 20 years in jail, 2nd forced suicide or life
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Rape - Loss of sexual organs
5 years in jail
attempted murder- 1st offence victim decides punishment 5-20 years, 2nd offence forced suicide or life
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-12-21 at 17:51:23
Its not vengence, its punishment!!

I would say only severe punishments for severe crimes. I mean if you get into a bar fight and were defending yourself, but every one says you started it I don't think you should lose an arm.

Know what I mean?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-12-21 at 17:53:58
QUOTE(S.T.A.R.S-Chris @ Dec 21 2005, 05:51 PM)
Its not vengence, its punishment!!

I would say only severe punishments for severe crimes.
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My thoughts exactly.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-12-21 at 18:28:14

You aren't guilty if it is in self-defense. Or if you are REALLY drunk. (usually)

This isn't based of Hammurabi's code, though it is similiar in some respects. Don't forget that Hammurabi was by FAR the most powerful leader of his time, and you know why? A steady society enforced by laws.




Is killing someone else to remove them from society murder? No.

It is a permanent measure to keep them away from other people. And it serves as a great deterrent.

It chlorinates the gene pool a bit too. wink.gif



ADDITION:

I came up with this saying when I was watching Law & Order Special Victims Unit. (Entirely about rape and molestation)


If you can fillet a fish,you can fillet a rapist.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2005-12-21 at 22:18:20
yeah but most rapists dont fillet people before/after they rape someone... but if they do they deserve to be filleted or w/e cool1.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2005-12-21 at 22:21:05
This thread is a bunch of useless conjecture. These kinds of "punishments" will never take effect in the U.S. or a European nation. All you're doing is thinking up theoretical consequences to the U.S. and State governmental definitions of crimes and their severity.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-12-22 at 00:00:52

When I rule the world, these will be the punishments.

Here is your chance for input.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by notnuclearrabbit on 2005-12-22 at 00:02:27
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-12-22 at 00:17:16
i dont think my punishments were that outlandish...

i think they are very fair and reasonable
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2005-12-22 at 00:25:18
QUOTE(Demaris @ Dec 22 2005, 12:00 AM)

When I rule the world, these will be the punishments.

Here is your chance for input.

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or me... either one...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-12-22 at 00:43:24
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I just thought that was appropriate (The chorus). I happened to be listening to it when I came to this topic.

QUOTE(Pyro_Maniak14 @ Dec 21 2005, 02:35 PM)
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That's called assault.


QUOTE(nuclearrabbit @ Dec 22 2005, 12:02 AM)
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Woot for that!!!

I'm sick of parole. There should be absolutely ZERO parole. You get life, you stay for life. (Life in jail is 7 years until parole)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2005-12-22 at 00:57:48
[quote=Kow,Dec 22 2005, 12:43 AM]
http://artistdirect.com/nad/window/media/p...3151025,00.html
I just thought that was appropriate (The chorus). I happened to be listening to it when I came to this topic.

That doll scares me... I couldn't make out much of the song but i kept hearing
"Why dont we just look the other way?"
"...rosemaries..."
".....case of trial...."
My computer isnt distorted either... odd song... interesting...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-12-29 at 05:36:27
How about public sqaure lashings????????

Humilate them in front of the whole city/town, and then EVERY ONE will know that person is a crimminal if/when he gets out of jail.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Camo on 2005-12-29 at 13:13:25
You guys are sick and twisted, seriously.
That's basically back to animal instincts, we could atleast have some human in us and let them have jail time and more of a civilized way to deal with crime then to chop off limbs and harm others for what they did. They could be mentally unstable, or anything else along those lines.

You guys are really defying the basic morals.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-12-30 at 14:52:25
If there's something wrong with them, mental hospital. Otherwise, either torture till death or cut off body parts. sly.gif
Isn't quartering typing both hands & feet to 4 seperate horses and having them move in different directions? Or is that drawing and quartering..
Oh, and another good one is taking a box with one hole on one endwith a rat, and lighting the end opposite the end with the hole and pressing the end with the hole against the persons belly.. The rat claws its way out.

Anyway, this isn't a torture topic (I loved that one sad.gif )

Just make sure they'll be afraid to commit the crime. Make it public, of course >:D.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2005-12-31 at 00:44:03
QUOTE(Mr.Camo @ Dec 29 2005, 01:13 PM)
You guys are sick and twisted, seriously.
That's basically back to animal instincts, we could atleast have some human in us and let them have jail time and more of a civilized way to deal with crime then to chop off limbs and harm others for what they did. They could be mentally unstable, or anything else along those lines.

You guys are really defying the basic morals.
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Yeah well some people are sick and twisted and they torture people before they die. You take a life... you pay a life. Imagine being strung up to the ceiling while someone cuts you open with a scapal because they enjoy hearing you scream. Shouldn't they die the same way? "An eye for an eye"
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-12-31 at 03:18:30
well modern society goes like this:

an eye for an eyelash.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Aikanaro on 2005-12-31 at 10:04:37
QUOTE(Pyro_Maniak14 @ Dec 31 2005, 12:44 AM)
"An eye for an eye"
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An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-12-31 at 10:11:37
O.o
Its not and eye for an eyelash yet, but I'm hoping it will be.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2005-12-31 at 15:49:18
Honestly, losing your wang sounds a lot worse than going to jail. I'd be more likely to commit a crime with the punishments we have now.
BTW, what about illegally downloading games, what about them -_-
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