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I vote no

I don't think atheist should celebrate any type of holiday becuase they don't believe in the reason why that holiday is celebrated. I do have some atheist friends who do celebrate christmas and do get presents from their parents, but why? Why should they celebrate Christmas when they don't beleive in god or jesus?

This goes for any other religion. If your entire family is Jewish you wouldn't celebrate Christmas would you?

Opinions, thoughts...

[sub]Well, true atheist familys do not celebrate religions. Most of the time atheists are just teenagers that think its cool to not believe in god, but will still celebrate holidays because their parents dont even knows their kid does not belive in a god. (Happens in familys that do not go to church, but parents did when they were kids and assume their kids will beleive in god too.)

I bet your friends parents dont feel the same way as they do, you cant except parents to stop celebrating something they did their whole life because their kids dont feel the same way. This topic is pointless, because true atheists do not celebrate religous holidays. Anyone who says they are an atheist and does is a hyprocrit.[/sub]

I celebrate x-mas for santa. Not jesus.

People will do what they want. They don't have to celebrate it, but they can observe it. Not sit as party poopers and growl at the mention of its existance. Parties and no work, why complain, even if it isn't from something you care about? There's nothing wrong with celebrating WITH someone else, even if you aren't celebrating it. If I throw a Christmas party and invite an atheist or even a Buddhist, I want them to have fun like everyone else and participate in my traditions, not sit around a candle and worship Jesus (in which case if that were my tradition, I wouldn't invite them ). Yeah, I think that was called tolerance -- that thing they want from the religious people. Hopefully they can give us some of that too.

I know some hardcore Christians who don't celebrate Christmas because they believe that it really has hardly anything to do with Christ. They believe it's purly commercial bullshiz. Do you really think you're a better Christian for getting a tree and exchanging gifts? Even though it puts 'a lot' (depending on the individual) of stress on less fortunate people (working poor)? It's a tradition, not a real religious holiday.

PS: I'm not saying you're a heartless SOB for celebrating it like this, I'm just saying it's got very little religious content, and lots of stuff that 'even' atheists can relate to.

Pretty much what this guy said. I celebrate the idea of giving presents to family and friends to be nice. Not to celebrate Jesus. You may ask why don't I just do it a different day, well, its just easier to do it when everyone else is. I'm not atheist because I think its cool, I frankly just don't believe in god ever since I was like 6 and back then I'm sure I didn't know what was "cool" and not. Templar is correct to. Christmas has about nothing to do with Christianity.

neither do we, really.



im catholic, i dont go to church, break alot of 'sins' and get my 'sins forgiven'

christmas is all about the presents

be honest

let athiest have fun in their lives as we do

The whole point of Christmas was in old england, you go to mass to celebrate Christ, Christ-mass, Christmas.

I want to remind you that its not just Christian holidays.

You shouldn't celebrate Christmass for Santa, Santa was an idea created in the 1700 and 1800s...

Christmas is all about Jesus, and we celebrate by giving gifts to each other etc.. and going to church

I jsut personally don't feel its right to just use a day about Jesus to get presents for your own selfish wants.

Christmas was the day Jesus Christ was Born. Easter weekend was the week Jesus died on the cross and then three days later, rose again.


But I dont see any reason why atheists shouldnt' celebrate these holidays. Freedom of choice right? Just pretend these holidays mean something else (such as santa.)

holiday was originally a holy day.

Athiests need anti holidays, where people celebrate the birth of communism and such.

^ what he said. Except the all about presents part. And I go to church semiregularlly.



Santa was a real person. The german St. Nicola, he did what we think of santa roday but only in one village.

Jesus wasn't born on xmas.



This site also tells you that he was born in between december 25th and january 6th.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronology_of...th#Day_of_birth

Anyway, what would Jesus want? Would He rather have you feel festival, in the joyous, giving, loving mood, or would He rather you discriminate?

Atheists can do what they want.



You're right though.



Uh... Christmas was a Pagen holiday. The Christians adopted it, and made it their own.

Btw, Christ was not born on the 25th of December.

[sub]Idea? What are you talking about? Hes real..[/sub]

Athiests don't believe in religion, but I'm sure any good-hearted person believes in having one day of the year where you pass around presents and have good times with others.

Thats what I do.
I went to a catholic school for eight years, I left it, became atheist, but my parents are still Catholics... I don't give gifts, I recieve them, because my Catholic parents give them to me.

lol kellimoose... I LoL'd hard when you proved chris wrong...

"Its all about christ: christ-mass = christmas"
"Its a pagan holiday -_-"

Just goes to show how people put things in the way they want them to be.
**cough**cough** the bible...

The pagan holiday wasn't called Christmas...

I heard the TV (Parents were watching, all the good, informaing shows come on when I cant watch) saying that Jesus was born around Juneish, 6-4 BC. It coincided with a Jupiter/Moon eclipse (Hence the 'Star'), and three Magi astronomers came to honor Christ. It was Nova I do believe.

It wasn't called christmas, yes. But that is not the point.

The point is: Christians are theives, cannot come up with their own holidays and stole Christmas, and Halloween from the pagens, and are liars.

That's why I don't believe in Religion, because ALL are flawed.

I watched part of a documentary on Christmas Eve on the History Channel so that's how I know

I wouldn't say they are liars... simply mislead and brainwashed....

just my 52 cents...

yes, Im clearly brainwashed

at least Im a happy camper

ADDITION:


What are you talking about, I was watching the history channel about this, in England the people would go to mass on the 25th, the mass for christ and it was soon called christmas

Perhaps the people who made what you saw on the History channel did not know about the Pagen's, and they merly SPECULATED that was the reason... Did they state it as fact, or as a probable evidence?

It helps to tell people exactly how you recieved evidence, otherwise said evidence is bound to conflict with other evidence.

Just being a prick because I can,

No they did describe it as a pegan holiday, but it soon changed, and the name Christmas is what Im talking about.