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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Vic.oO on 2005-12-25 at 12:36:41

How can i make the computer's lurk to not unburrow?

I created a lurk for p1 with burrow enabled then gave it to p8 with burrow disabled but it still unburrows

Heres a quick map if u wanna c wat i did wrong

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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)MinigameEast on 2005-12-25 at 12:43:34

if its givin to a computer then its automatically going to burrow

Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2005-12-25 at 12:44:42

I think it only work if the lurkers belon to human players. Enable burrow for computer and disable it for human. I'm not sure though.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-12-25 at 13:09:06

Burrow is always enabled for lurkers. :/

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Vic.oO on 2005-12-25 at 13:12:05

eh? so computer players can always unburrow?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Insane.oO on 2005-12-25 at 13:19:18

Uhh you could make a location that sets the ai to auto burrow when the lurker hits it like the lurkers do in some bounds but im not sure if it works underground

Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2005-12-25 at 13:41:56

QUOTE(Syphon @ Dec 25 2005, 01:09 PM)

Burrow is always enabled for lurkers. :/
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But if you disable burrowing, completely take it out, meaning no greyed out burrow icon then lurkers can't burrow.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by LurkerEgg on 2005-12-25 at 14:15:24

QUOTE(KaboomHahahein @ Dec 25 2005, 01:41 PM)

But if you disable burrowing, completely take it out, meaning no greyed out burrow icon then lurkers can't burrow.
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I'm pretty sure they still can, even if you do that

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kumano on 2005-12-25 at 14:39:52

No they can't, at least not for humans. Computers can ALWAYS unburrow, since they aren't supposed to have burrowed units with burrow disabled to begin with.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Vic.oO on 2005-12-25 at 14:43:37

so no way for burrowed computer lurks to stop unburrowin?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2005-12-25 at 14:51:18

It's been discussed. Computers have some abilities no matter what. Siege, burrow...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by LurkerEgg on 2005-12-25 at 16:50:33

QUOTE(Oo.Vic.oO @ Dec 25 2005, 02:43 PM)

so no way for burrowed computer lurks to stop unburrowin?
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Nope, though I don't think a neutral player will unburrow when given a unit.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-12-25 at 17:45:31

You need to give it to a neutral player. If you give a burrowed lurker to a computer player, it will automatically unburrow than burrow again.

I learned it the hard way, making the game bounds. I wanted it to be playable on single player, but I needed neutral players so they wouldn't unburrow durring the bound.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Vic.oO on 2005-12-25 at 21:43:22

but i want them to attack too

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2005-12-25 at 23:27:17

QUOTE(Oo.Vic.oO @ Dec 25 2005, 02:43 PM)

so no way for burrowed computer lurks to stop unburrowin?
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You could have a small location over the Lurkers and have them being ordered to move constantly (preserve trigger) to that location (while a certain switch is set), so they will always be moving to it. As you know, Lurkers unborrow in order to follow a move command. You could disable the switch when the human player gets close enough. To the human player, it will look like the lurker is just standing there, but they are constantly being ordered to move to the location where they're standing.

I haven't actually tried THAT, but it's similar to something I've done, so it should work.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by LurkerEgg on 2005-12-26 at 02:50:54

QUOTE(Doodan @ Dec 25 2005, 11:27 PM)

They'll be unburrowed, though. He needs them to stay burrowed no matter what...the only thing I can think of is to make it neutral and then turn to comp when a player gets within range.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2005-12-26 at 03:30:02

QUOTE(LurkerEgg @ Dec 26 2005, 02:50 AM)

They'll be unburrowed, though. He needs them to stay burrowed no matter what...the only thing I can think of is to make it neutral and then turn to comp when a player gets within range.
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Hahaha. I totally read the question wrong. Discard what I said then.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by fritfrat(U) on 2005-12-26 at 13:18:02

Back in the day, I once made a team lurker defense map in which lurkers appeared for a neutral player whenever a human player left the game.

Neutral players can still attack enemies. I believe I just used a "set player 8 to enemy" and called it a day

Report, edit, etc...Posted by re_casper on 2005-12-26 at 14:10:54

QUOTE(DEAD @ Dec 25 2005, 11:51 AM)

It's been discussed. Computers have some abilities no matter what. Siege, burrow...
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I believe siege doesnt work.

Also, if the computer is constantly attacking, i doubt it would unburrow

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2005-12-26 at 17:43:15

QUOTE(re_casper @ Dec 26 2005, 10:10 PM)

I believe siege doesnt work.

Also, if the computer is constantly attacking, i doubt it would unburrow
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Well, you believe wrong. Go ahead and test it

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-12-26 at 23:29:14

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but i want them to attack too

That doesn't matter on whether it is neutral or not. Simply alter the alliance status for them and they will attack. You can't run AI scripts or anything special (I think) but neutral players are basically the same as normal computers.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by AgenT_Nick on 2005-12-27 at 10:25:32

u could do it like murderball but backwards

make a burrowble unit for you and create it burrowed then Give it to the computer that has disabled for burrow. it should not unburrow

its in murderball and my upcoming map..

Report, edit, etc...Posted by re_casper on 2005-12-27 at 14:14:58

QUOTE(DEAD @ Dec 26 2005, 02:43 PM)

Well, you believe wrong. Go ahead and test it

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but... but... the attacking thing is right... as long as it doesnt have to move to attack something it doesnt...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kumano on 2005-12-27 at 15:10:20

QUOTE(AgenT_Nick @ Dec 27 2005, 07:25 AM)

u could do it like murderball but backwards

make a burrowble unit for you and create it burrowed then Give it to the computer that has disabled for burrow. it should not unburrow

its in murderball and my upcoming map..
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No, it will still unburrow since Blizzard did not expect people to do things like this, and didn't make them make sure they have burrow researched to unburrow.

QUOTE(re_casper @ Dec 27 2005, 11:14 AM)

but... but... the attacking thing is right... as long as it doesnt have to move to attack something it doesnt...
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Huh? If you move a unit right in front of a siege tank in siege mode, it will go out of siege mode even if they don't have it researched. I'm not sure if it does this for hero tanks though.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by re_casper on 2005-12-28 at 03:36:00

i meant for lurkers....

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