Staredit Network

How can this insurgency be stopped in Iraq, which tragically over the past week has claimed more lives of our brave American fighting forces?

I have heard that the largest demographic group in the MidEast is...young males between the ages of 18 to 35, who are uneducated and live in poverty.

With lots of energy, male machismo, and time on their hands, with little ability for self-critical thinking due to little education, they are easily led by persons such as binLaden and the Saddam Husseins and radical clerics to fight and die in the droves.

There are huge numbers of such men between the ages of 18 to 35 in the MidEast, and they flock to places of conflict like Afghanistan and Iraq to battle, having so little to lose, being told by radical preachers that their life is best when it ends in their death, giving them a special place in the afterlife with many riches.

These young men are being manipulated by old, self-serving, power freaks who do not care about the lives of these young men, but only their own power----and there are so many of these young men, taught and encouraged to sacrifice all.

How then, can all of this be stopped? We just secure an area in Iraq and Afghanistan, and as I understand from reading what our fighting forces say there so often happens, in a short while new guys arrive from other places to blow-up what has been accomplished or undermine it completely. And there are soooo many----how can they ever be stopped?

Kill them all? I don't think this possible or will advance our cause . And if we off their leaders, then that makes them martyrs and foments all the more hatred against the USA and Free World and western democracies.

I would be most interested to know what our fighting forces think about all of this, and others.

I am saying that all of this makes our fighting forces really have even a tougher job on their hands, a more frustrating job, and a more dangerous job.

I just don't know how we can defeat all of this, and I do want this insurgency DEFEATED as the leaders who lead it are no different than earlier tyrants, enslavers and power-hungry dictator types we have seen on the so often tragic stage of history in the past.

You may be right about the uneducated, male machismo, and tons of free time on their hands, but even though they munilipated by people like osama bin ladin does not mean their are doing this just for the heck of it. Osama may be pretty fond of his power, but the reason why they do this started out and still is their religion is islam and they are angered by how western societies and stuff. That's why they targeted us during 9/11.

Sparticus and his army were stopped, eventually.

Then again, they weren't backed by a Syrian cash flow, and they ended up trapped in a peninsula..

I'm not so sure it will be stopped. The US hasn't had a good record with stopping guerillas.

You know it, hear that Michigan? We're comnig back. And this time, it's for the rights to Mexico.

---

Time for Syphons PC non threatening solution to war.

Nighquil bombers.

No, I'm not joknig either, vaporized say laughing gas in small canisters is carpet bombed over waring zones, everyone goes to sleep, while they're sleeping we send peacekeepers in to disarm them. They wake up with no weapons, thinkt he enemie still has them and run. We are back in New York eating surf and turf while listening to a guy name Molly asks for a dance.

Sparticus was defeated for 2 reasons...

1. No cash flow as stated.
2. They always stayed together. Meaning that ANY attack against them could kill them all. Al Quaida (SP?) has many cells therefore undefeatable.

Education is the best weapon. Thats why most of them do not have any.

Your right but I do believe the germans or celts or some part of his army wanted to keep fighting and broke off from his main force. They were later cut down .

I don't think we can FULLY defeat insurgents, but we can't lose either. Thats whats weird about it, in a battle Allied forces will always win, half the insurgents can't shoot straight.

My Ranger friend Brad Jenison told me of a time in Iraq when his men were on patrol south of Bagdad (or how ever you spell it, I don't care) and they came under fire. They took cover and Brad noticed an Insurgent run into the middle of the street firing his Ak-47.... but the shots were all over the place that all brad had to do was shoot him - two in the chest, one in the head.

So I think if the iraq forces can better secure their border, iraq civilians become more bold as in tipping us off of possible attacks, we capture high ranking leaders, and have more brutal punishments to scare off the less bold terrorists, then maybe Iraq will be a safer place.

Baghdad.

How will punishments throw off the terrorists? They strap bombs to their backs, you think prison time, torture will scare them? It would just make them do more attacks.
People will die, this isn't a war, a warzone yes but not a war because we are not fighting the country of iraq anymore. We are fighting a faceless foe of whom has no intention of stopping and has a endless money flow. A foe who recruits from all corners of the world.

They've only helped them

Iran-Contra Scandal of the Reagon administration

I'm fully aware of that. I am an army nut

I was just writing down the first things that came to my mind, I know there are no more 'battles', but what I mean by that is - Squad of 12 americans on patrol, couple insurgents bop out of windows/alley ways, the two forces engage. I mean by that we can't lose.

Yes, but lets not forgot this new type of enemy is also human, who feels everything any other person would feel. By harsher punishments may hinder the weaker of those new recruites. I don't know, just a random option I thought of.

I doubt it can be stopped. Radical religious fundamentalists are insanely devoted to their cause. Plus, insurgency is cheaper. A relatively cheap IED can rip an expensive humvee or tank apart.

FIRST OF ALL, do not use "insurgent" and "terrorist" interchangeably. An insurgent is a freedom fighter, fighting American soldiers specifically, not civillians, in an attempt to regain their own government.

A terrorist is a person that tries to kill everyone for the hell of it.

Can an insurgency be stopped? Yes. Meet the needs of the people.

Can terrorism be stopped? No. It's like trying to teach a wall.

Wrong, that may be the definition to the word but those insurgents in Iraq aren't even from Iraq. Yes some if not most are but generally they came from elsewhere to fight americans. They are also fighting the civies too. If their not muslim or cooperate with the government put in place they are targeted.


I wouldn't say that chris, religious fanatics usually do not feel any apathy and feel that we can punish them all we want but either way they go to heaven.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=insurgent

Yup, the insurgents could care less about the civilians they kill. They target government officials, police stations, hospitals etc...

They basically don't want a democratic (even if corrupt) government in the middle east and they especially hate Americans.

Freedom Fighter? Tell that to a dead american soldier's mother

"Yeah your son was blown up by an insurgent, but thats ok becuase he is a freedom fighter"

Freedom from what? If you ask me America (if anything) is giving them freedom...