Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dr.Shotgun on 2006-01-01 at 20:09:23
Anyways, we need to start producing the Ion Cannon (and the Ionic Research Facility) Right now, we're in desperate need of 3D modelers. (If DTBK could get a news post about this, that would be great.)
So, here's my plan. Voy can elaborate.
Data Modders need to write an mpq for the Ion Cannon/Ionic Research Facility. Independently produce MPQs, post them here, and mix and choose the best.
DoA: You're going to write the Mempatch for the spells and research involved, specifically, the research prerequisite of the Ion Cannon and its attack spell. I know you're busy with FireGraft, but bob can't do everything.
revolver_devalle: You're writing the TBL files for the Ionic Research Facility. The Data Modders should tell you what unit it replaces and all that other fun stuff.
Graphics: This will be subdivided:
Kenoli: You will model and skin the Ion Cannon, as I have seen your Sir Kibble and I know you are capable of this.
Corbo, Cnl.Fatso, PCFredZ: You will be doing buttons and projectiles, as you don't seem to have much 3D knowledge.
Pauper: You will model and skin the Ionic Research facility. Remeber that it is an addon for the Science Facility.
m.r.bob: You will write the Iscript for the Ion Cannon and Ionic Research facility. You will tell Kenoli and Pauper what frames you need, etc.
Beta Testers: Finally, you will test the finished product for bugs. Balance testing cannot be done until the entire mod is finished.
In other words, the work model goes something like this:
Data Modders
V
Graphics>Iscripts>Beta Testers <Mempatchers
So, here's my plan. Voy can elaborate.
Data Modders need to write an mpq for the Ion Cannon/Ionic Research Facility. Independently produce MPQs, post them here, and mix and choose the best.
DoA: You're going to write the Mempatch for the spells and research involved, specifically, the research prerequisite of the Ion Cannon and its attack spell. I know you're busy with FireGraft, but bob can't do everything.
revolver_devalle: You're writing the TBL files for the Ionic Research Facility. The Data Modders should tell you what unit it replaces and all that other fun stuff.
Graphics: This will be subdivided:
Kenoli: You will model and skin the Ion Cannon, as I have seen your Sir Kibble and I know you are capable of this.
Corbo, Cnl.Fatso, PCFredZ: You will be doing buttons and projectiles, as you don't seem to have much 3D knowledge.
Pauper: You will model and skin the Ionic Research facility. Remeber that it is an addon for the Science Facility.
m.r.bob: You will write the Iscript for the Ion Cannon and Ionic Research facility. You will tell Kenoli and Pauper what frames you need, etc.
Beta Testers: Finally, you will test the finished product for bugs. Balance testing cannot be done until the entire mod is finished.
In other words, the work model goes something like this:
Data Modders
V
Graphics>Iscripts>Beta Testers <Mempatchers
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Darius.DeValle on 2006-01-01 at 20:17:49
QUOTE(Dr.Shotgun @ Jan 1 2006, 08:09 PM)
Anyways, we need to start producing the Ion Cannon (and the Ionic Research Facility) Right now, we're in desperate need of 3D modelers. (If DTBK could get a nes post about thi, that would be great.)
So, here's my plan. Voy can elaborate.
Data Modders need to write an mpq for the Ion Cannon/Ionic Research Facility. Independently produce MPQs, post them here, and mix and choose the best.
DoA: You're going to write the Mempatch for the spells and research involved, specifically, the research prerequisite of the Ion Cannon and its attack spell. I know you're busy with FireGraft, but bob can't do everything.
revolver_devalle: You're writing the TBL files for the Ionic Research Facility. The Data Modders should tell you what unit it replaces and all that other fun stuff.
Graphics: This will be subdivided:
Kenoli: You will model and skin the Ion Cannon, as I have seen your Sir Kibble and I know you are capable of this.
Corbo, Cnl.Fatso, PCFredZ: You will be doing buttons and projectiles, as you don't seem to have much 3D knowledge.
Pauper: You will model and skin the Ionic Research facility. Remeber that it is an addon for the Science Facility.
m.r.bob: You will write the Iscript for the Ion Cannon and Ionic Research facility. You will tell Kenoli and Pauper what frames you need, etc.
Beta Testers: Finally, you will test the finished product for bugs. Balance testing cannot be done until the entire mod is finished.
In other words, the work model goes something like this:
Data Modders
V
Graphics>Iscripts>Beta Testers <Mempatchers
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So, here's my plan. Voy can elaborate.
Data Modders need to write an mpq for the Ion Cannon/Ionic Research Facility. Independently produce MPQs, post them here, and mix and choose the best.
DoA: You're going to write the Mempatch for the spells and research involved, specifically, the research prerequisite of the Ion Cannon and its attack spell. I know you're busy with FireGraft, but bob can't do everything.
revolver_devalle: You're writing the TBL files for the Ionic Research Facility. The Data Modders should tell you what unit it replaces and all that other fun stuff.
Graphics: This will be subdivided:
Kenoli: You will model and skin the Ion Cannon, as I have seen your Sir Kibble and I know you are capable of this.
Corbo, Cnl.Fatso, PCFredZ: You will be doing buttons and projectiles, as you don't seem to have much 3D knowledge.
Pauper: You will model and skin the Ionic Research facility. Remeber that it is an addon for the Science Facility.
m.r.bob: You will write the Iscript for the Ion Cannon and Ionic Research facility. You will tell Kenoli and Pauper what frames you need, etc.
Beta Testers: Finally, you will test the finished product for bugs. Balance testing cannot be done until the entire mod is finished.
In other words, the work model goes something like this:
Data Modders
V
Graphics>Iscripts>Beta Testers <Mempatchers
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I have direction...alright.
Hey, fellow data modders, lemme know what you all have planned as I've been relagated entirely to the tbl editing field and can't really help you there. The fastest way of contacting me? Email. (odin.the.fenrir.knight@gmail.com)
Let's get this show on the road.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-01-01 at 21:10:54
QUOTE
If DTBK could get a nes post about thi
a "news post about this"?
QUOTE(DiscipleOfAdun @ Dec 15 2005, 07:46 AM)
Okay, I want to see this in action. So, here's what needs to be supplied. Someone who can better choose than me should give them(I also thought DTBK was going to...):
The first two need to tell how many frames each has to the Iscripter.
1. Ion Cannon Graphic - uses the existing units->flingy->sprites->images->iscript entries? -- Yes.
2. Ion Attack Graphic(s) - Replace one of the two weapon flingies->sprites->images first? ID's also. Yes.
3. Tech number for the attack. Needed for the Use Technology action that will call an Iscript animation. Make sure the associated order in Orders.dat has Type 7, not type 28. Any of the Queen's spells should work.
4. Icons + string ID's, for the Memgraft Patch.
5. Weapon ID for the attack.
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The first two need to tell how many frames each has to the Iscripter.
1. Ion Cannon Graphic - uses the existing units->flingy->sprites->images->iscript entries? -- Yes.
2. Ion Attack Graphic(s) - Replace one of the two weapon flingies->sprites->images first? ID's also. Yes.
3. Tech number for the attack. Needed for the Use Technology action that will call an Iscript animation. Make sure the associated order in Orders.dat has Type 7, not type 28. Any of the Queen's spells should work.
4. Icons + string ID's, for the Memgraft Patch.
5. Weapon ID for the attack.
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IDs need to be provided by someone taking charge of this.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-01-01 at 21:25:48
Ion Cannon units.dat entry: 127 [Ion Cannon]
Ionic Research Facility units.dat entry: 200 [Power Generator]
Ion Cannon images.dat entry: 292 [Ion Cannon]
IRF images.dat entry: 949 [Power Generator]
IRF Shadow images.dat entry: 950 [Power Generator Shad]
Button Group(s): New
Ion Cannon Name TBL Entry: 127
Build Ion Cannon TBL Entry: 91 (Unused<0>*<0>*<0>)
Ionic Discharge TBL Entry: 92 (Unused<0>*<0>*<0>)
IRF Name TBL Entry: 200 (Power Generator<0>*<0>Special Buildings<0>)
Build IRF TBL Entry: 145 (Unused Zerg Bldg<0>*<0>Zerg<0>)
Will these IDs be OK?
Ionic Research Facility units.dat entry: 200 [Power Generator]
Ion Cannon images.dat entry: 292 [Ion Cannon]
IRF images.dat entry: 949 [Power Generator]
IRF Shadow images.dat entry: 950 [Power Generator Shad]
Button Group(s): New
Ion Cannon Name TBL Entry: 127
Build Ion Cannon TBL Entry: 91 (Unused<0>*<0>*<0>)
Ionic Discharge TBL Entry: 92 (Unused<0>*<0>*<0>)
IRF Name TBL Entry: 200 (Power Generator<0>*<0>Special Buildings<0>)
Build IRF TBL Entry: 145 (Unused Zerg Bldg<0>*<0>Zerg<0>)
Will these IDs be OK?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-01-02 at 10:48:57
Yeah, those look good. I'll have a memgraft patch (I'll write it as a Stargraft patch file so we can edit it) done soon. The only thing I don't follow is how the attack is going to be done, for the patch. So, here's what I'm guessing on, tell me if anything isn't right.
We still need a weapon ID, plus a tech ID. Whatever tech the data modders choose, tell me. I suggest using the first unused one(I think it is tech number 26).
To the table writer, just add the following strings to the end of the tbl(in this order) then send it to me:
Ion cannon requirement string
Ionic Discharge requirement
IRF requirement string
Ionic Discharge research string
Ionic discharge research requirement string
To the graphics team, as soon as you get all of Icons done and compiled, get it to me.
To bob, when you Iscript the attack, use the Sp Ability 2 animation, don't put in a cast spell command, and make sure to have the sigorder command. I'll have it call this animation through a spell, so it will never(no offense data modders, I just don't trust removing all the attack stuff, I'd rather do this way since I know it doesn't ever attack when it is supposed to, plus some of the fact that it is a spell tells me that this would lessen the possibility of there being a conflict with the code.)
Once I get the tbl and the icon grp file, I'll have the patch done that day.
We still need a weapon ID, plus a tech ID. Whatever tech the data modders choose, tell me. I suggest using the first unused one(I think it is tech number 26).
To the table writer, just add the following strings to the end of the tbl(in this order) then send it to me:
Ion cannon requirement string
Ionic Discharge requirement
IRF requirement string
Ionic Discharge research string
Ionic discharge research requirement string
To the graphics team, as soon as you get all of Icons done and compiled, get it to me.
To bob, when you Iscript the attack, use the Sp Ability 2 animation, don't put in a cast spell command, and make sure to have the sigorder command. I'll have it call this animation through a spell, so it will never(no offense data modders, I just don't trust removing all the attack stuff, I'd rather do this way since I know it doesn't ever attack when it is supposed to, plus some of the fact that it is a spell tells me that this would lessen the possibility of there being a conflict with the code.)
Once I get the tbl and the icon grp file, I'll have the patch done that day.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Corbo(MM) on 2006-01-02 at 14:05:10
QUOTE(DiscipleOfAdun @ Jan 2 2006, 09:48 AM)
To the table writer, just add the following strings to the end of the tbl(in this order) then send it to me:
Ion cannon requirement string
Ionic Discharge requirement
IRF requirement string
Ionic Discharge research string
Ionic discharge research requirement string
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just tell me if i got the tech tree right
ion cannon req = ionic research facility (power generator)
ionic discharge req = researched ability at IRF(PG)
IRF(PG) req = hmm? Comand Center? + academy?
Ionic Discharge reasearch = just a string
ionic discharge req research = hmm?
explain me this one cuz i didn't find anything either on the stat_txt
ADDITION:
nvm i think i got it ill try to post the tbl as soon as i can i already have it
but it is like delayed to add the attachment anyways i got to go eat right now
that are the string added in the end and the rest of the file its the same
tell me if they are ok and ill start working on the buttons
EDIT:
added:
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-01-03 at 10:36:05
Good. You are missing the string for using the actual weapon itself. Other than that, if you missed anything, I'll add it when I make the patch. Just put it up when you get the time, go to work on the buttons.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Corbo(MM) on 2006-01-03 at 12:59:49
QUOTE(DiscipleOfAdun @ Jan 3 2006, 09:36 AM)
Good. You are missing the string for using the actual weapon itself. Other than that, if you missed anything, I'll add it when I make the patch. Just put it up when you get the time, go to work on the buttons.
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oh yeah sry, added as
i<3><3>I<1>onic Discharge<0>
Here it is, im sorry for the delayance
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ADDITION:
the zip doesn't work for me, and if it doesn't work for u either
Get it here
free file hosting
i hope the link works lol..Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-01-03 at 20:14:02
Uhh, tech tree clarification: the spell is going to be the cannon's default attack, you shouldn't have to research to enable it.
The IRF requires this: Requires: Science Facility with attached Physics Lab, Engineering Bay
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=23587
The IRF requires this: Requires: Science Facility with attached Physics Lab, Engineering Bay
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=23587
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-04 at 01:03:24
So the data modders dont have to do any weapons .dat right? Since it doesnt have a weapon or are we having a weapon and making it have a spell attacked to it. Im confused on this part.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-01-04 at 01:06:13
I believe the plan was the spell calls an attack25(), but I may be mistaken. Don't all damage spells have a weapons.dat entry?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-01-04 at 10:49:48
Okay. Yes, they do. We need the weapon done. Here's, in the simpilist terms, how it works.
1. player pushes the attack button
2. That calls Iscript animation SpAbility2
3. In that scirpt, the castspell is replaced with an attack25 or attack26. a charge animation can also be done first. Make sure that the sigorder is left in.
4. In units.dat, it points to a weapon.dat entry that has the weapon.
5. the attack data from weapons.dat is read, and we have it attack.
1. player pushes the attack button
2. That calls Iscript animation SpAbility2
3. In that scirpt, the castspell is replaced with an attack25 or attack26. a charge animation can also be done first. Make sure that the sigorder is left in.
4. In units.dat, it points to a weapon.dat entry that has the weapon.
5. the attack data from weapons.dat is read, and we have it attack.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Corbo(MM) on 2006-01-04 at 21:09:07
i need kenoli and pauper to make the ionic research facility and the hmm...nvm just pauper just to see how will the IRF will be and have an idea for the icon so fasto fred and i can work on them, i belive there are already two icons in the other thread and hmm i looked at the at the tech tree ill have your tbl for tomorrow doa and to dtbk are we really having 3 upgrades?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dr.Shotgun on 2006-01-05 at 07:42:05
What happened to Kenoli, anyway?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-01-05 at 09:41:57
Don't have an upgrade required for the attack. Just the addon for the building.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pauper on 2006-01-09 at 01:04:26
Here is my part of this job:
I know i didnt make it I edited a building. I think it looks really coool myself.
Because Im not to good at 3D stuff.
I know i didnt make it I edited a building. I think it looks really coool myself.
Because Im not to good at 3D stuff.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-01-09 at 09:52:37
Looks really good for just editing buildings. But, thats just my opinion.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-01-09 at 15:02:09
Nice! 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2006-01-09 at 19:20:39
I feel/am useless. 
DTBK, you can always move me to the Help Gurus section so it won't be empty anymore, I'll be the group's direct link to the DLDB (ignoring fact that you pwn it too).
DTBK, you can always move me to the Help Gurus section so it won't be empty anymore, I'll be the group's direct link to the DLDB (ignoring fact that you pwn it too).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Corbo(MM) on 2006-01-09 at 20:22:15
Ok Good Job Pauper, even if your .....Irf right? doesn't get in now we are two that like it and with voy and names i can't remembers are a lot so i think it will anyways i took advantage and made the icon for it
what i just did its hmm resize the IRF you made and with the cmdicons pallete i got the colors and used them as i liked
here it is an enlarged image, it doesn't look this weird remember its enlarged
and here it is the actual icon
DOA sorry about the delayance but i've been busy trying to fix my comp and fighting with my internet company now its all fixed and i guess ill have no other problem than my sister asking me to let her use the pc so ill have the tbl for tomorrow, and hmmm if you like my icon use it with the others that have been made
FRED you can make other icons like the one of "build ion cannon" or start modeling the projectile
what i just did its hmm resize the IRF you made and with the cmdicons pallete i got the colors and used them as i liked
here it is an enlarged image, it doesn't look this weird remember its enlarged
and here it is the actual icon
DOA sorry about the delayance but i've been busy trying to fix my comp and fighting with my internet company now its all fixed and i guess ill have no other problem than my sister asking me to let her use the pc
so ill have the tbl for tomorrow, and hmmm if you like my icon use it with the others that have been made FRED you can make other icons like the one of "build ion cannon" or start modeling the projectile
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2006-01-09 at 22:25:35
QUOTE(corbo @ Jan 9 2006, 08:22 PM)
FRED you can make other icons like the one of "build ion cannon" or start modeling the projectile
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What about these, already made by Pauper?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-10 at 01:15:24
That build Ion cannon icon of Paupers doesnt look good. But the attack icon does very well. Ill have weapons dat done tomorrow.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TERRAINFIGHTER on 2006-01-10 at 13:54:31
So when will we actually start and what are we (dat modders) supposed to do?
If needed, I can try to make a quick sample mod using iscript, dat, and memgraft editing but it wont be very good
If needed, I can try to make a quick sample mod using iscript, dat, and memgraft editing but it wont be very good
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Corbo(MM) on 2006-01-10 at 15:54:04
everyone else will be able to start when Ghrapics proness team gives you everything projectile, ion cannon, irf, buttons and when the string masters give you the tbl btw give me 5 mins to do it
as far as we know we got Three Buttons
Dunno what is this:
Weapon or else called the all mighty "Ion Discharge":
The "Build IRF" button:
it actually looks better...photobucket made it jpg ugh...
We got the Ion Research Facility that looks like this:
which you can download here
IRF
and i made two versions of stat_txt:
1.
which you can download here:
Stat_txt_v1
2.
which you can download here:
Stat_txt_v2
i did two versions because first DOA was asking for ion discharge requirements
then DTBK said the ion discharge since its the weapon of the ion cannon it should have no requirements which seems logical to me, god dtbk you are so smart
gives you everything projectile, ion cannon, irf, buttons and when the string masters give you the tbl btw give me 5 mins to do it as far as we know we got Three Buttons
Dunno what is this:
Weapon or else called the all mighty "Ion Discharge":
The "Build IRF" button:
it actually looks better...photobucket made it jpg ugh...
We got the Ion Research Facility that looks like this:
which you can download here
IRF
and i made two versions of stat_txt:
1.
which you can download here:
Stat_txt_v1
2.
which you can download here:
Stat_txt_v2
i did two versions because first DOA was asking for ion discharge requirements
then DTBK said the ion discharge since its the weapon of the ion cannon it should have no requirements which seems logical to me, god dtbk you are so smart
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pauper on 2006-01-12 at 01:22:31
Np. I liked it hoping you guys would. =D Now what? Also I didnt make that icon I made it more yellow.