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Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-01-03 at 23:50:17

I can see changes starting in 10 years, but when we fully change our main energy source will probably be around 15-10 years I believe.

I vote 10 years.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2006-01-03 at 23:54:49

they're already making those cars that makes water vapor the exhaust, maybe we can use that to fuel everything in the world

i say 5 years

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-04 at 00:38:01

most people dont think that using the earths fuels is that bad. even with the price of gas rising they say that the hybrids cost too much. but over time the hybrid will pay for itself in savings of gas.

the US will probolly be one of the last major powers to switch to an eco friendly economy. so i put 30+ years.

the first country i think that will change will be Japan. after that will be Europe and the common wealths etc.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-04 at 02:03:44

America is to prideful to follow change, so I agree with ^

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-01-04 at 02:41:03

more then 30 years. we're too stupid to actually put effort into changing the system.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Screwed on 2006-01-04 at 09:24:48

QUOTE(no-0b @ Jan 4 2006, 05:54 PM)

they're already making those cars that makes water vapor the exhaust, maybe we can use that to fuel everything in the world

i say 5 years
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If you're referring to the hydrogen-solar dependent cars, then you're quite wrong. The process of making the fuel (hydrogen) for the car would create much more pollution than a normal gas dependent vehicle with today's technology. Uh, and I doubt five years would be a realistic estimate. Natural gas can last us at least 20 years, and it would take much longer than 5 years before a country decice to phase out of dependence on natural gas and spend a lot of money to invest on a transition.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2006-01-04 at 14:16:44

If we put forth the effort, 5 years or less. People just need to learn to harness the power of magnets.

Realisticly we could power the whole world solarly, or with tidal right now. But it would take about 3 yeras to set the plants up.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by HorroR on 2006-01-04 at 14:26:58

I say 15 years. Most people may buy new non fossil-fueled vehicles, but because of prices, within 13 years will everyone be using those.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2006-01-04 at 15:25:25

You can get hybrids for around $20-23 Thousand, so don't complain they're out of your budget (unless you make that much in a year).

We need to rely more on Nuclear power. It is safe as long as precautions are taken place. We had a meltdown, but no real damage occured. Trinobal (or however it's spelled. I'll look it up after I submit this) had the same problem, only it didn't have any precautions for the meltdown. Nuclear with saftey and precautions is the way to go!

Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2006-01-04 at 16:09:23

I'd say about 50 years.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-01-04 at 16:20:32

I'd vote something like 25 years.. It'll happen when gas prices sky rocket.. so people buy more efficient cars..

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2006-01-04 at 17:58:30

I think people won't change, they aren't that smart.

And they think that weather in 2005 was bad.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2006-01-04 at 18:16:18

Well they have some cars besides hybrids. I saw this stupid commercial or something about a bunch of teens who made a car that ran off of vegetable oil... I can't imagine what the vapor would smell like when it comes out of the muffler. But anyway... for "vegetable-oil cars" to go into mass production would never happen. As for the hybrid cars... I agree with DorkHawk and that when the gas prices skyrocket, hybrid cars will become more possible. As for the "magnet" idea, the only way we could use magnets would be to replace every road in the world with magnets on its north side and build cars with a HUGE magnet and have the north side facing the ground so the two forces repel each other... But then again you would need to worry about steering, balance and the giganormous funds it would need... I vote 30+ years...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-01-04 at 18:34:00

Well you guys should also take into account how far we went from the 1980s era to the 1990s era.

80's cell phones were HUGE, early ones were the size of brief cases (my dad still has his first one he got around the house somewhere)

90's cell phones became much more portable

80's computers were laughably pothetic

90's computers are redesigned and became much more powerful/smaller.

I bet there are some more examples Im not thinking of

Report, edit, etc...Posted by (DI)Yulla on 2006-01-04 at 18:47:31

I dont think the energy changin is even possible. Simple two words... Too Little Land (or was that three). If Americans, as the "world leader" doesnt change their major energy to something like solar, wind, and dams, we can do poop. Also, we are too dependant on oil industry. Too much cars are running on gas. Until more than 90% of those cars are taken over, we cant do poop. We have to hope that the gas in middle east doesnt dry out until we change our major energy source, which will take more than 50 years at least.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-04 at 23:43:38

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people can get new cars for 8k not every one is rich.

nuclear is fine as long as we dont use it to power our vehicles. no matter how many layers of lead or concrete you have being anywhere near a radioactive substance increases the rate of cancer.

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magnets are alright... it will cause disturbances in compasses and some electrical equiptment. (stick a magnet by your monitor HAHAHAH!) the magnetic field to actually levitate a car would be very large and it will most likely attract metalic substances from far away.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2006-01-04 at 23:47:50

we need to invent like wormholes so that we never have to walk again, unless its for recreational reasons

Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-01-04 at 23:52:49

QUOTE(no-0b @ Jan 4 2006, 08:47 PM)

we need to invent like wormholes so that we never have to walk again, unless its for recreational reasons
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the further fattening of America

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2006-01-04 at 23:55:55

who cares if we get fat? traveling with wormholes is the best type of transportation

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Minority on 2006-01-05 at 00:50:53

No it's not. What if the wormhole collapses while you're in it? Besides, we definitely won't have the technology to create big enough wormholes before our fossil fuels run out, and when we do have the technology, they will be far too expensive to create and maintain.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-01-05 at 20:55:08

I have a feeling the corporations and manufacturers are holding out on us to keep the money in a lot of industries. There's probably going to be a sudden burst from nowhere in terms of technology once the non-renewable fuels do run out.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by (DI)Yulla on 2006-01-06 at 07:07:34

QUOTE(Mini Moose 2707 @ Jan 5 2006, 08:55 PM)

true true... But why can't those industries get ready for renewable fuels since they know they are going to lose money when it happens. If they are alone in the market after run-out, then they would get a ton of cash...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2006-01-06 at 11:49:19

I think it would take at least 20 years when they finally find a source that is safe and not damaging to the enviroment and that is effective. They also need to start to change all the cars and gas stations to be equipped with the new source for energy.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2006-01-06 at 18:43:18

QUOTE(KaboomHahahein @ Jan 6 2006, 11:49 AM)

If there even is one... And as for the magnet thing... you're right Sie_Sayoka

But the middle east isn't the only major oil-plentiful land. Antartica has lots of oil but there are laws protecting the continent so no one bothers to mine from it. Plus its freezing cold there so not many people would even wanna work on the oil rigs. Also... how do you even create a wormhole thats 100% safe? You CANT! And if you can please tell me... Maybe we could enchant our cars with magic and make them FLY... That'll cut down on air pollution and the use of natural resources! Now if we can only find Harry Potter...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-06 at 20:20:19

harry potter plays with his magic wand late at night.

i think the best answer is to use battery powered cars(wont be as powerful but it will be good enough) untill we can find a good alternate source. i think that as technology progresses the use of water(H2O) will be a good use. if we can find a cheap effective way to part the hydrogen and oxygen then we will have a very good source of energy.

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