I cant explain it any better then this
http://www.stuntcook.com/index.php?i=9252pretty damn logical, very interesting, and could be true
do you think this is fake or real?
if its real, its really changing my views of the USA
is president bush bullshizting his way through the war on terror to coverup his plans?
i dunno
anyways
lets discuss the video
talk about polotics of the war on terror and how this video reflects it
that is if u think its real or not
discuss that too
--Vizual
Interesting, but it appears as a more "extreme" point of view. Nothing really new though, it's pretty much regurgatating everything we say. The part with the three polititians is real, but I don't think it's necessarily a project, just the sharing of similar interest. Simply enough, I don't think they're a "team" wanting world domination. Also, it labels Americans as stereotypes. Too bad the media tends to worship the "stereotypes" of America. The bulk of America is mainly made of people who simply want to get on with their lives.
Bling tits. Hit the nail on the head Broke the nail.
Probably, we are going to take over the world in less then 4 years!
We must rise up! Defend our freedoms! Equilibrium/1984 shall not come to pass! ;D
No, I'm afraid the U.S. is past its prime. It has lost control of the media, which seems to have become quite negative and taunting of the U.S., rather than like the cold war, a propoganda outlet.
A war can only be succesful if your people support it.
There's barely a handful of governments I wouldn't mind taking over the world. USA being one of them.
Besides, how is this breaking news? ALL countries in the world want to take over the world. It's a given. If any country in this world had the power to do it, and had to the power to keep it under control, every country will do it.
Are you serious? You don't mind the USA taking over? just as the checks and balances is supposed to work, no country should become so powerful as to control everywhere. Then your SOL if things become facist.
I wouldn't mind the USA taking over the world, as long as we get aid and actually help each other and every one becomes friends...

Keep following the american dream, because as George carlin puts it, you have to be asleep to believe it.
Forgot "as"
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Keep following the american dream, because George carlin puts it, you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Fantastic quote.
When you think of world domination, you think of Hitler (the video mentions him) wanting to stick his face everywhere and tell people how to think, what to do, what to wear, how to live, etc. Hitler was doing it in a much more direct fashion. We are doing it very indirectly, by forcing other countries to have the same values as we do, while at the same time we consume most of the world's resources. By changing what it means "earning a living" in the rest of the world, we really are telling them how to think, act, live, etc., but very indirectly. That was a nice find there, Vizual.
By world domination, I mean by making the entire world 1 country. 1 republic. The closest thing we can ever get to world peace. The only wars that would be left, would be civil wars and revolutions. Not that bullshiz nationalism some of us got going on.
Reason why I said America would be a good canidate, is because of the rights it provides. (The constitution basically) And you don't need to do it by killing half the people there. Look at how we got hawaii, we threaten them into giving it to us for a small price. And as long as we treat them right, they won't revolt. And look at alaska, we bought that from russia. And I don't seen any revolutions coming from there either. And the other thing you need to do is to get as many immigrants as you can. To show that we don't really care who or what you are. You can join our side and you can have our same rights. And eventually it won't really matter where you came from and you will be purely american. (Certain parties oppose this for some reason)
Hitler was a fool into thinking he could do it within 100 years. This takes way more than 100 years. We're looking at more towards, within 1,000 years.
Only other option that can out do this, is to unite all countries under one confederacy. And if any country screw up, you biznatch slap him. However, this can still cause many wars.
The other option is to sit around, not do anything except to just yell world peace here and there, and let everyone keep fighting each other and getting almost no where at it because 1-12 guys told you so.
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Look at how we got hawaii, we threaten them into giving it to us for a small price. And as long as we treat them right, they won't revolt.
thats not how the US took Hawaii.... an oligarchy of plantation owners attacked the royal palace with US marines and kept the queen prisoner in her own castle. the reason why there was no revolt was that the queen did not want to shed any blood on both sides believing that the fairness of the US would make things right. however since the spanish american war was around the president decided to annex Hawaii.
This is Nothing But a Big Pile of Bullshiz Bashing America
MA edit: Please do not spout out unecessary stuff or next time you will be warned. Thanks
Confederacy of nations WILL NOT work, its what the league of nations and united nations was made for. As shown it will become corrupt and does not work.
Nils, just because your ignorent to what this country is doing, don't spam. Prove to us thats what this is with facts.
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The closest thing we can ever get to world peace.
Very untrue.
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1931/I myself believe I am VERY for the rights of people, free thought, free expression, etc. Everything should be free about a person except something that harms another person. Such as walking around nude, killing people, robbing someone, etc. There is no excuse for violating a persons rights. Wars or no wars. People should be allowed to choose when they want to drink, if they want to do drugs, if they want to believe in god. No one has the right to force you to do harm or to do wrong. I am against war in general, I feel its always the old men (politicians) who start wars and always the young men that fight and end them. Governments are built on the backs of the ignorent, the govn'ts of the world want the people ignorent to their operations. Since the days of andrew jackson, people have said that the common man should rule (Back then it was noted that the common man was smarter then the elitists) We have a C-student oil tycoon that the only reason he even had a shot at the presidency was because of his father. I feel a persons reason for living should be for the betterment of society, of their own lives, and of their childrens lives. I know quite alot of religious believers who feel theres no need as long as they devote themselves to god. It IS the peoples job to keep questioning a government. Its to keep them in check. If you lend someone $1000 and never ask them about it again, they can easily screw you over and never return it. If you question them from time to time, it keeps them in check and you'll get it back. Freedom and liberty may have been what this country was born for, but its not what it lives for now. We live on the basis of lies that are told. This country has one of the worst education systems (I'm talking out of civilized countries, not the congo and such) Japan or Germany I believe have the best. It may not be because the govn't wants to keep the masses illiterate, but it helps to do so. Anytime a persons rights to freedom and liberty are in danger they should fight. Not sit there and say its for the good of the country, your just giving the gov't leeway to do it again. Its like testing a forts defenses, you find that one weak spot and you open it wider. Its a never ending cycle of human nature.
Sorry for that LONG rant... lol its just been on my mind and what I believe.
Lets just make everything free and have no rules. Everyone will have to be happy then...
Euro, I'm against war too. And I agree with you fully. But there's no way you can get world peace with out war of some kind. I didn't make the world, I just live in it. If I had it my way, we would've been at utopia the day it was founded, by sadfully, I'm not God.
Out of the currently major world powers today, America I wouldn't mind that much. Every government is bad and evil in some way. Every single one. America looks the worst because we've look at it the most. It's not the best, nor is it the worst. But compared to human history, it can easily go on the top 20. Maybe even the top 10. I don't like the government, infact, I've never really liked a government in my entire life.
As for that confederate thing, it's not going to work. Too many chefs in a kitchen can start a fire.
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thats not how the US took Hawaii.... an oligarchy of plantation owners attacked the royal palace with US marines and kept the queen prisoner in her own castle. the reason why there was no revolt was that the queen did not want to shed any blood on both sides believing that the fairness of the US would make things right. however since the spanish american war was around the president decided to annex Hawaii.
I think what you meant to say that's why they didn't revolt. Even then, I don't see where the disagreement is. I clearly said, "we used soldiers".
What I'm saying is having one nation control the world is a bad thing. It limits your choices, lets say you don't like what they are doing, where else you going to go? Mars?
What if they decide to take away all rights in a 1984-esque scenario? What are you going to do?
Also Chris, the government spends money on the wrong thing. All they should do is educate children on the dangers of something and let them make that choice. For instance (though I don't believe it) I will use Adam and Eve as an example. God did not educate them on the consequences of eating the apple. He merely told them no. So... Adam ate it. If he had told them what the consequences were if he were to eat the apple and did not just tell them no, they would probably of let it alone.
The government obviously is full of meanies, They try to keep drugs off the street. All they have to do is educate the populance about it all and let them make their own choices. you eliminate the demand and there will be no supply. Don't waste money of catching and keeping drugs off the street. Why are they wasting money raiding parties to stop underage children from drinking. I've seen individuals who are underage and drink that are ery mature about it. They don't brag about it to their friends, they sit around a fire drinking beer and chatting. If you eliminate the law about it, kids will not be tempted to try it as much. Italians have a glass of wine with their dinner, Germans have their drinking age at 16... 15-16 is generally when kids start to think about drinking. I go there and there wasn't massive beer-induced parties everywhere... granted there may be a few I did not notice, but you guys get my drift.
America is a federal country. It wouldn't limit the choices of all Americans in the world. There's state law, then there's federal law. So one state could be half of sweden, another could be half of france. Each having their own state laws.
Take a step back, and compare us to other countries. We have many freedoms here right now. Government may abuse them time to time, but we do have many freedoms here as of the moment. Yes, you do have that evil untraditional rooster sucking patriot act going on, but all and all. It's still good.
What I am saying is what happens when its not "all good" Where will you go, how will you fight? You won't be able to.
all good? You mean our rights? We're do we go when our rights get farked up? You go over the gun shop, get a sniper, then keep up the american tradition, and start shooting people at the white house. Lucky for us, we don't have to do that right now.
Your joking right? BTW for that comment the NSA has probably started tapping your connections...

BTW people, I have found the lyrics to one of my favorite songs... Tell me if you know what it means...

QUOTE(Turncoat - Anti-Flag)
TURNCOAT! KILLER! LIAR! THIEF!
Criminal with protection of the law!
Go!
States lies dressed up as evening news
We're tired of lies we want the truth
Broadcast by corpses courting you
We're tired of lies we want the truth
Most people they will never know
We're tired of lies we want the truth
With your or against you?
Then I am against you because you're a...
TURNCOAT! KILLER! LIAR! THIEF!
Criminal with protection of the law
TURNCOAT! KILLER! LIAR! THIEF!
Criminal with protection of the law
In your corner
Makes me wanna
Douse myself in gasoline!
Civil servants fall in line for you
Too brainwashed to see the truth
You use anyone you can!
TURNCOAT! KILLER! LIAR! THIEF!
Criminal with protection of the law
TURNCOAT! KILLER! LIAR! THIEF!
Criminal with protection of the
KILLER!
LIAR!
A TURNCOAT! and a THIEF!
Criminal with protection of the law! The law!
Criminal with protection of the law!
So what are we supposed to do? Sit around and do nothing? Know it's all a lie and just give up? Ya, that solves everything for people like you and me. But for your average puppet, it doesn't help them at all.
LOL another song for lyrics lol
I feel we need to stop the path this government is on before it reaches its destination.
QUOTE(No Borders @ No Nations - Anti-flag)
I always thought if you want to change the world
Then you have to start with yourself
So if the heads of state want to end terrorism
They should go ahead and kill themselves
I will not sign my blind faith away
To an unjustly leader of the unjust police state
Corporate masters live in their cess pool
Of extreme wealth and excess
Whoa Oh
The phrase world leaders
Does not describe the heads of state
Those few in power
Work only for the corporate sake
No action, no interest, no humanity at all
As the corporate towers rise up
They watch the people fall
A government untouchable by the people,
Run by the corporations of the world
Enslaving mothers, fathers, sons, and daughters
Profits put before people
Equal force, equal reaction
Equal suppression, equal intimidations
Equal prosecution, equal propaganda,
Equal rebellion
I won't sign my blind faith away
To an unjustleader of the unjust police state
Corporate masters live in their lapse pool
Of extreme wealth and excess
Whoa Oh
The phrase world leaders
Does not describe the heads of state
Those few in power
Work only for the corporate sake
No action, no interest, no humanity at all
As the corporate towers rise up..
We've got to make a change
No religions, sexual preference
And regardless of your race
We've got to make a change
No war, corporate run
Governments, no police state
We've got to make a change
For the good of the human race
And you still look me in the eye
And you still wonder why
Your cities farking burn
No borders, no nations
No flags, no patriots
quoting an anarchist far-leftwing song is gay