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Report, edit, etc...Posted by RedNara on 2006-01-17 at 21:15:55
Hey its just to talk about guild war expansion and guild wars..

i feel kinda bad right now becuase my comp sucks and it doesnt run guild wars good enough so i cant play espeically after they added the new big patch it started lagging for me real bad...

what you guys think about the expansion yay smile.gif im kinda happy its coming out
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-01-17 at 22:18:13
I'm not happy. It means more people will waste there money on a shizty expansion of a shizty game.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-01-17 at 22:21:20
The game isn't shziyytyzy, It's one of the better MMORPGs. It's a lot more unique than the other ones.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RJ_Fighter on 2006-01-17 at 22:40:17
QUOTE(Golden-Fist @ Jan 17 2006, 10:18 PM)
I'm not happy. It means more people will waste there money on a shizty expansion of a shizty game.
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Tell that to Joshgt2 and he'll stab you.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zycorax on 2006-01-18 at 03:58:42
I don't play the game often enough to make it worth buying an expansion.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-01-18 at 18:51:16
QUOTE(RJ_Fighter @ Jan 17 2006, 10:40 PM)
Tell that to Joshgt2 and he'll stab you.
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I'd hate to get e-stabbed over the e-nternat. At least Guild Wars is taking a senseable idea that if people want more in a game then they'll buy an expansion not pay for it monthly.
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The game isn't shziyytyzy, It's one of the better MMORPGs. It's a lot more unique than the other ones.

Don't bother posting reasons why, that sentance alone stands it's ground.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-01-18 at 18:53:53
I didn't think I'd have to.
You didn't exactly tell me why the game was szyzhzhyity either.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-01-18 at 19:42:14
I like Guild Wars... sad.gif

I'll probably get the expansion after it drops in price. It's not worth getting as soon as it comes out.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RedNara on 2006-01-18 at 19:53:07
totally agree with voyager smile.gif

i can wait by the time i do get a new comp there will be another expansion lol maybe 2 lol haha...

well Golden-Fist i bet you know that every other mmo gets expansions pretty much.. the ones that pay monthly have more updates while there is no expansion. and its not like as if guild wars dont get updates... i got a really good one once. where they added a whole new content to it.. however, i have to agree i did get boreded of it after a while.. but in the other hand i did play it for 24/7 like 2 month straight and then got like pretty much everything in the game and then kinda quit... and then my laptop got stolen which is a lot better then this comp and cant play it... however expansion's are always cool and fun. it might be cool if they add some other super new stuff which they prob will later...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-01-18 at 20:15:02
When they get a patch that stops the game from being impossibly hard and boring, come call me. Till then, my mind will not change that the game sucks.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IceWarrior98 on 2006-01-26 at 07:12:47
I just got GW so the x-pac can wait lol.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2006-01-26 at 21:35:39
The game's quality is whatever you want it to be. GF thinks it sucks. Well that's his thought. If you think it's good, that's your thought as well. You don't need to "defend" anything here. If you think something, then it is so, at least for you.

Anyway, I am thinking about getting GW, but I only have 256 RAM and I'm waiting for the price to lower. I'm a HUGE fan of logical thinking games and that seems to be what GW delivers. I don't like games where the more pain (aka griding for items) I do, the more powerful I get. I like games where it's about making smarter decisions.

Is that the case for GW? (to those who have played it)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Joshgt2 on 2006-01-27 at 06:27:11
Just to let you know... Guild Wars is not a shizty game. I have it and I got a brand new computer that lets it run so good that the game is unbelievable at the graphic and everything else you can do in it. The only thing I wish you could do is do 1vs.1 PvP or role play.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Goran on 2006-01-29 at 15:15:55
QUOTE(Golden-Fist @ Jan 18 2006, 07:15 PM)
When they get a patch that stops the game from being impossibly hard and boring, come call me. Till then, my mind will not change that the game sucks.
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Impossibly hard??? haha!

Maybe you werent meant to play PC games... But GW is in no way hard... And if it was that would not make it boring by any means. Why dont you go play solitaire
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-02-01 at 18:25:44
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Maybe you werent meant to play PC games... But GW is in no way hard... And if it was that would not make it boring by any means. Why dont you go play solitaire[right][snapback]415979[/snapback][/right]

Man you're so cool, do you get a badge for being so cool/a jerk to people?
Anyway, if you call attacking 3 fast attacking scorpians that are level 12 when you're level 6 with 3 retarded bots doing nothing while you get killed within seconds easy?
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Is that the case for GW? (to those who have played it)

No. You jsut go around and slash up enemies. Although i'm not sure what you're asking, you have spells that you can use before ramming head on with an enemy, but that's the only thinking there is. You do a lot of item looking for.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cnl.Fatso on 2006-02-01 at 21:36:26
I'm not a MMORPG fan at all, and I never will be.

Unless, of course, they finally make a semidecent MMOFPS (I haven't seen a single one that didn't suck ass).

EDIT: But if I ever did get an MMO it would be Guild Wars. gogo free gameplay FTW
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-02-01 at 21:58:17
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Huxley is coming for Xbox360 smile.gif or you could email Beseda (Whatever) to make the next Elder Scrolls online biggrin.gif.
If Blizzard ever makes "World of Starcraft" and gives it a dark grimmy feeling then I'd be an MMORPG paying every month fan within seconds, but it would have to not suck.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cnl.Fatso on 2006-02-02 at 19:41:44
Yeh, but NOT AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR STARCRAFT II! Blizz must do that FIRST!

If SCII is an MMO I will walk into their main office with a shotgun and start a murderous rampage.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HolySin on 2006-02-02 at 21:54:49
Blizzard will not be making any other expansions for the original games.

I've had my share of MMORPGs, got really really great at them, but for the most part, I'm done. The best three are FFXI, WoW, and GW. I'll list the pros and cons of each:

Final Fantasy XI:
Pros:
-Very addictive
-Absolute power
-Wide variety of quests and bosses
Cons:
-Other players are evil and greedy
-The economy makes you cry
-Leveling makes you cry (deleveling)

World of Warcraft:
Pros:
-Another addictive game
-Lots of areas to explore
-PvP is very fun on this game
Cons:
-Easy to get lost
-The enemy force will camp your corpse
-You'll find a lack of purpose to this game eventually

Guild Wars:
Pros:
-Free
-Good graphics
-Interesting missions / quests
Cons:
-Not as much variety
-Slow development (mainly the lack of fees)
-Only 20 levels

Even though we see the free being a bonus, it is a problem. The makers of Guild Wars will eventually find it difficult to produce more updates and expansions. Hopefully they find a solution. However, out of those three, my favorite was Final Fantasy just because how freakishly powerful you felt at level 75.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2006-02-04 at 09:19:29
QUOTE(Revelade @ Jan 26 2006, 09:35 PM)
The game's quality is whatever you want it to be. GF thinks it sucks. Well that's his thought. If you think it's good, that's your thought as well. You don't need to "defend" anything here. If you think something, then it is so, at least for you.

Anyway, I am thinking about getting GW, but I only have 256 RAM and I'm waiting for the price to lower. I'm a HUGE fan of logical thinking games and that seems to be what GW delivers. I don't like games where the more pain (aka griding for items) I do, the more powerful I get. I like games where it's about making smarter decisions.

Is that the case for GW? (to those who have played it)
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Yes it is. Guild wars is not a MMORPG, it lacks many elements that would qualify it for that. It is more of a CORPG (competitive online...) and I have been playing that aspect of it for months now. There are two modes: RPG and PvP.

RPG mode lets you make a character and start from scratch building him up (this is the best method for people starting the game). In this situation you might spend some time grinding and looking for good weapons but since you can very quickly get the best weapons in the game and the level cap is 20 I wouldn't be too worried about spending tons of hours doing it. Plus since they added "greens" you can make your way to a couple areas in Guild Wars and look for an already perfected weapon for you. (A green is basically any weapon/offhand with perfect stats) Consider playing RPG mode just to unlock skills. It's the fastest way to unlock them and it's the only reason I play it.

PvE mode lets you play with any skills, weapon upgrades (slightly improve your weapons), and runes (slightly improve your attributes). All of which can be unlocked in RPG mode (through identifying items) or PvP mode (through buying things with faction).

EDIT: Forgot to mention some stuff. Any RPG character can play in all the PvP arenas. Any PvP character can only play in the PvP arenas.

And since the expansion is coming out there will be tons of room to make new strats based around the current and new classes being added to the game. If you don't know if your computer can handle the game just wait for another preview and play it. ANET let people play 3 Guild Wars previews before it came out and there has only been 1 Factions preview since it's announcement. So watch the Guild Wars homepage and maybe you'll get lucky and they will do another one.

Golden-Fist, RPG mode is easy as hell (I've played through it 4 times now and it was easy the first time and still is) and each new area has enemies which use different skills combinations that keep you interested in using your new skills to counter them. If you can't realize how to use your skills (which the game is built around) then I can see how you would think the game is hard and boring. It's not a hack and slash game where you can get some uber weapon or skill and destroy everything. Anyway it sounds like you stopped playing when your character got way too far for its level. I never encountered anything higher level than me untill the southern shiverpeaks where everything is supposed to be higher level than you to even out the differences between man and AI. I never even got a chance to leave pre-searing before level 7 because I did every quest I possibly could down there and right outside pre-sear everything is level 3-7 and there are tons more quests which propel your level way higher.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by M_s4 on 2006-02-04 at 09:33:47
Does anyone have an idea to help me? Because just the concept of the entire game is like messed up. I mean it's fun and all but I'm so freakishly nooby! I mean I'm level 2 and I suddenly get to this place called "Old Ascalon" and I can't get back to the "New Ascalon" or normal place. And what the hell is a guild and how do you get in one? And it says that there are like 100+ skills but I think I skipped a lot of them. Skip? I don't know. If anyone could point me out to a useful guide THAT DOES NOT "JUST" include just skill builds, attribute builds, 2nd proffession stuff, but actually give me an idea about where I am going with the game, I'll pay them 30 mins.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2006-02-04 at 09:37:07
I don't know, I had no problem figuring out any of that. Maybe if you would do more reading and less playing at the start of the game you would know whats going on.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by M_s4 on 2006-02-04 at 10:40:52
I read so many guides and read everything I could before I even talked to Sir Tydus to get my first mission. I think I read everything careful enough.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2006-02-04 at 10:58:02
If you're so really lost then try this one on for size...

http://www.guildwiki.org/wiki/Pre-Searing_guide
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Joshgt2 on 2006-02-04 at 13:48:07
Pre-searing is soo easy... I would suggest that before going over the wall to go into searing mode, be at least level 7-9. That way you will have a good start on the "real" game of Guild Wars.
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