Report, edit, etc...Posted by T-MaStAA on 2006-01-19 at 15:37:17
CAIRO, Egypt - The CIA confirmed Thursday that an audiotape aired Thursday claiming al-Qaida is making preparations to attack the United States again but offering a truce “with fair conditions” is the voice of the terrorist group’s leader, Osama bin Laden.
The tape’s release came days after a U.S. airstrike in Pakistan that was targeting bin Laden’s deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri, and reportedly killed four leading al-Qaida figures, including possibly al-Zawahri’s son-in-law. There was no mention of the attack on the segments that were broadcast.
It was the first tape from the al-Qaida leader in more than a year — the longest period without a message since the Sept. 11, 2001, suicide hijackings in the United States.
Do you think the United States will be ready for the attack if it acctualy happens?
The tape’s release came days after a U.S. airstrike in Pakistan that was targeting bin Laden’s deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri, and reportedly killed four leading al-Qaida figures, including possibly al-Zawahri’s son-in-law. There was no mention of the attack on the segments that were broadcast.
It was the first tape from the al-Qaida leader in more than a year — the longest period without a message since the Sept. 11, 2001, suicide hijackings in the United States.
Do you think the United States will be ready for the attack if it acctualy happens?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2006-01-19 at 16:02:33
Could you quote the text next time a produce a link to the source?
http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?fsID=151
http://appropriations.senate.gov/hearmarku...d.cfm?id=203635
http://www.defenselink.mil/ra/rfpb/chapter_1.html
http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?fsID=151
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The AFRC has 447 aircraft assigned to it. The inventory includes the latest, most capable models of the F-16 Fighting Falcon, O/A-10 Thunderbolt II, C-5 Galaxy, C-141 Starlifter, C-130 Hercules, MC-130 Combat Talon I, HC-130, WC-130, KC-135 Stratotanker, B-52 Stratofortress and HH-60 Pave Hawk helicopter. On any given day, 99 percent of these aircraft are mission ready and able to deploy within 72 hours. These aircraft and support personnel are gained by Air Combat Command, Air Mobility Command and Air Force Special Operations Command if mobilized. The aircraft and their crews are immediately deployable without need for additional training.
I think so.http://appropriations.senate.gov/hearmarku...d.cfm?id=203635
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And the last myth is that it takes too long for us to mobilize and be ready. Fortunately, I have a timely example to use to dispel this myth. On October 4th, 2002, a mobilization order was issued to VFA-201. Within 72 hours 100 percent of squadron personnel had completed the mobilization process, and within 90 days, all refresher training had been completed and the squadron was deployed on board the U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt. Every aviator has cruise experience, over 1000 flight hours, and many have 2000 hours in aircraft type. Squadron aviators provided leadership to the air wing in strike planning, flight execution, and carrier operations. Their experience in operations around the world and in adversary tactics continue to aid increased air wing readiness. Since mobilization, the Hunters of VFA-201 have flown more than several thousand Sorties, have flown over 300 hours in combat and have dropped over 60,000 lbs. of precision-guided munitions. Not only were we ready to respond to the call quickly, but, I am please to report that VFA-201 pilots had the highest qualification grades in the Air Wing and were awarded the Squadron “Top Hook” award. I am also pleased to report that VFA-201’s twelve F-18A+ aircraft are equivalent to F-18C aircraft primarily because of funding for equipment upgrades provided by Congress via the NG&RE appropriation.
http://www.defenselink.mil/ra/rfpb/chapter_1.html
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Marine Corps Reserve units selected for mobilization are immediately assigned to their gaining commands. Within 72 hours of notification, Marine Corps Reservists report to their Reserve Training Center, then proceed to an initial assignment. Ordinarily, units reach the gaining command within 48 hours and the theater of operations within seven days.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-01-19 at 16:52:15
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...a truce “with fair conditions”...
Oh, now that's interesting. He must be really desprate to be offering a truce. I wonder what the conditions are...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HorroR on 2006-01-19 at 17:17:04
We'd be prepared..If Bush makes us ready. Hell, wasn't it true that 9/11 and all of the lives lost could have been prevented if Bush actually acted? I doubt they would set up a truce. I find it unlikely.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-01-19 at 18:03:26
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We'd be prepared..If Bush makes us ready. Hell, wasn't it true that 9/11 and all of the lives lost could have been prevented if Bush actually acted? I doubt they would set up a truce. I find it unlikely.
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Clinton also, it was clinton's officials who told Bush. So it could go either way.
And that is extremely interesting that he wants a truce. Doesn't he say that if you kill Americans you go to heaven? I geuss he doesn't believe that anymore. But I know thats what he preachs.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HorroR on 2006-01-19 at 18:04:46
My teacher said Clinton was a disgrace, so I'm not that surprised. And even if Bin Laden lets up, aren't there still other Insurgents?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-01-19 at 18:08:21
QUOTE(TheDaddy04_20 @ Jan 19 2006, 07:03 PM)
Clinton also, it was clinton's officials who told Bush. So it could go either way.
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Plus, Clinton could've had Osama several times before he was big name terrorist but refused to becuase there were children in the camp he was in. Clinton called the strike off for fear of harming hte children.
Besides, the truce his just Osama trying to looking like an powerful, fair terrorist.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-19 at 19:35:52
QUOTE(HorroR @ Jan 19 2006, 04:04 PM)
My teacher said Clinton was a disgrace, so I'm not that surprised. And even if Bin Laden lets up, aren't there still other Insurgents?
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You're going to believe someones opinions over facts?
Our country saw one of the best economic boosts in Clintons two terms. We was only in one conflict.
Bush gets in, and our economy goes down hill, and we're in a war.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-19 at 22:21:16
yeah i agree with kellimus we have had a good economic boost in clintons terms. although he shamed our country by having an affair and such.
i believe that the US government was setting up an assaination on osama pre 9/11 however osama attacked before and ran into hiding. there were several assassination attempts on osama but he has slipped through them time after time.
i believe that the US government was setting up an assaination on osama pre 9/11 however osama attacked before and ran into hiding. there were several assassination attempts on osama but he has slipped through them time after time.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2006-01-22 at 16:59:03
Me, I don't believe it unless theres a video feed too. I mean lets look at it this way. From the propaganda view.
the Truce - Lets see, if the "enemy" were to offer a truce, which would make him desperate and bush rejected it. It would make bush look valiant in his fight for "freedom".
Sound, but no video - Anyone realize that they perfected voice morphing technology? I think its at princeton or some other ivy league college. Its also stated near the end of this video. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2...=loose%20change
Also its a known fact that it was created. hmmm created in 1999, that gave them 2 years to work on it...
He didn't shame shiz. Its none of our business what he does in his personal life. Thats absolutely NO ground for impeachment. Thats why this country is farked up. Impeaching a president because of an affair he had in his personal life. I can probably name 12 kids that have cheated and 3 adults that have. Should they get fired from their jobs? Unless its in the presidents rule book, it shouldn't matter.
uh...no. You do know we had 7 chances to kill him. Each time we backed off. Did you know that in the days after 9/11, when all Americans could not fly, the government flew the Bin Ladins (Usama's family) out of the country to Saudi Arabia. Shouldn't you question the relatives to find his whereabouts? 9/11 was an inside job. Did you know that on the morning of September 11th, for the first time in American History, NORAD signed off? As the employees there were told, for "training drills". Want to know another thing? For the first time in history, an official from the executive branch was in complete control of NORAD. By order of Donal Rumsfield, wang Cheney was given complete control over the generals at NORAD. Lets see, a Cessna gets within a mile of the pentagon/whitehouse and they got F-16's all over it. But 4 Air liners strike 3 differant targets in 2 HOURS, and not one F-16 managed to get to it!?!?!? All I know is if I was an F-16 pilot, I would of hauled ass even without an order to take them down, I would of shot down at least one of those planes.
the Truce - Lets see, if the "enemy" were to offer a truce, which would make him desperate and bush rejected it. It would make bush look valiant in his fight for "freedom".
Sound, but no video - Anyone realize that they perfected voice morphing technology? I think its at princeton or some other ivy league college. Its also stated near the end of this video. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2...=loose%20change
Also its a known fact that it was created. hmmm created in 1999, that gave them 2 years to work on it...
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although he shamed our country by having an affair and such.
He didn't shame shiz. Its none of our business what he does in his personal life. Thats absolutely NO ground for impeachment. Thats why this country is farked up. Impeaching a president because of an affair he had in his personal life. I can probably name 12 kids that have cheated and 3 adults that have. Should they get fired from their jobs? Unless its in the presidents rule book, it shouldn't matter.
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i believe that the US government was setting up an assaination on osama pre 9/11 however osama attacked before and ran into hiding. there were several assassination attempts on osama but he has slipped through them time after time.
uh...no. You do know we had 7 chances to kill him. Each time we backed off. Did you know that in the days after 9/11, when all Americans could not fly, the government flew the Bin Ladins (Usama's family) out of the country to Saudi Arabia. Shouldn't you question the relatives to find his whereabouts? 9/11 was an inside job. Did you know that on the morning of September 11th, for the first time in American History, NORAD signed off? As the employees there were told, for "training drills". Want to know another thing? For the first time in history, an official from the executive branch was in complete control of NORAD. By order of Donal Rumsfield, wang Cheney was given complete control over the generals at NORAD. Lets see, a Cessna gets within a mile of the pentagon/whitehouse and they got F-16's all over it. But 4 Air liners strike 3 differant targets in 2 HOURS, and not one F-16 managed to get to it!?!?!? All I know is if I was an F-16 pilot, I would of hauled ass even without an order to take them down, I would of shot down at least one of those planes.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-01-22 at 17:17:22
knowing bush i bet he'd let ben ladin off 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-22 at 17:38:55
geez euro didnt have to bite my head off. you were going after an assumtion off of the little facts that i provided.
how does this say that he should of gotten impeached because of his personal life? and its not just an average person. its the president of the united states. he represents our country and if he had an affair how would it look to other countries? they wouldnt just dismiss it as just a personal affair.
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although he shamed our country by having an affair and such.
how does this say that he should of gotten impeached because of his personal life? and its not just an average person. its the president of the united states. he represents our country and if he had an affair how would it look to other countries? they wouldnt just dismiss it as just a personal affair.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-01-22 at 19:56:13
So many leaders have done things far worse than clinton in their personal life. Go open up a history book.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2006-01-22 at 20:13:19
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-01-22 at 23:09:51
lol
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2006-01-23 at 02:05:19
He did not shame our country in any way by having an affair. Thats the point I was making. No shiz he is the president. His personal life = has nothing to do with his work. As long as its human, they cannot say a thing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HorroR on 2006-01-23 at 17:08:25
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jan 19 2006, 07:35 PM)
You're going to believe someones opinions over facts?
Our country saw one of the best economic boosts in Clintons two terms. We was only in one conflict.
Bush gets in, and our economy goes down hill, and we're in a war.
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Bush gets in, and our economy goes down hill, and we're in a war.
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I didn't say I agreed with her opinions.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SkuLL on 2006-01-23 at 17:44:19
I heard he threatened another terrorist attack. Scary! 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2006-01-23 at 17:53:28
I still think that he is probably dead. There has not been a video of him in a long time. And this one was all sound and no video? And one of his hands seemed to be broken/messed up in the last videos with him, he never moved it. US will be reading for the supposedly attack.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-01-23 at 22:40:29
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He did not shame our country in any way by having an affair. Thats the point I was making. No shiz he is the president. His personal life = has nothing to do with his work. As long as its human, they cannot say a thing.
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So bush's family life and businesses has, by your logic, nothing to do with his work?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2006-01-24 at 17:41:36
Osama has the US in the palm of his hand, simple as that.
The US has it's eyes on Osama, but not at the man standing next to you with 5 pounds of bombs under his jacket.
Why the hell does the US fear Osama so much? Physically, Osama hasn't and won't do anything to the US. It's his followers and Jihad fanatics that get into the country every day to blow up a few pieces of concrete and spatter some blood on the wall.
I bet that if Osama stepped into the US, people would be in such fear that they won't do anything.
Stop worrying so much about a long bearded man halfway around the world and worry about the guy with 5 pounds of explosives sitting next to you and the ships that carry these people. But the problem is, they are already in the country and since the Constitution states that you can't charge anyone of any actions until there is proof, you can't do anything about them. I can make a plot to kill Bush, but you can't do anythign about it because I didn't try to do it.
The US has it's eyes on Osama, but not at the man standing next to you with 5 pounds of bombs under his jacket.
Why the hell does the US fear Osama so much? Physically, Osama hasn't and won't do anything to the US. It's his followers and Jihad fanatics that get into the country every day to blow up a few pieces of concrete and spatter some blood on the wall.
I bet that if Osama stepped into the US, people would be in such fear that they won't do anything.
Stop worrying so much about a long bearded man halfway around the world and worry about the guy with 5 pounds of explosives sitting next to you and the ships that carry these people. But the problem is, they are already in the country and since the Constitution states that you can't charge anyone of any actions until there is proof, you can't do anything about them. I can make a plot to kill Bush, but you can't do anythign about it because I didn't try to do it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2006-01-29 at 23:56:35
I think that would be considered a threat beer.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2006-01-30 at 01:29:08
I read in a local newspaper just last week that an osama related forum mentioned Alaska's pipeline as a target.
Ya, thats right, alaska is part of America, not our fault.
Ya, thats right, alaska is part of America, not our fault.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-01-31 at 10:36:06
If our alaskan pipeline is killed then we will have some serious gas issues.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Forsaken on 2006-01-31 at 13:01:18
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Oh, now that's interesting. He must be really desprate to be offering a truce. I wonder what the conditions are...
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I higly, higly doubt that there will be a truce. He{and all of his followers} are deeply devout to the Koran, and believe that western imperialsm, is the root of all evil. They are not going to all of the sudden ask for a truce.
But, let's say they did, ask for a truce. It would be something along the lines of: "Remove ALL US Soldiers from the Middle East." They would want that so they could from a nation and live by the Koran. No TV, Radio, Music, etc... They want a deeply devout lifestyle. If we were to take the millitary out of the east, that would be bad.
So, all in all, I don't think a truce will be made.