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Report, edit, etc...Posted by RedNara on 2006-02-06 at 20:40:20
Hey i know how to overlap words but im trying to do x2 overlapping words and it seems like it takes me forever to overlap words..

anyone got any tip...

man havent made maps in such a long time and suddenly i try to overlap words and it takes even longer XD...

also i know there is tut
dont be like oh we got tut for everything w00t.gif w00t.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-07 at 01:47:56
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by RedNara on 2006-02-07 at 22:15:16
ahh 1 help w/e..

well i was asking becuase some people seem to get overlap in there first try.. when it takes like 10 trys sometime for me...

I mean there must be some kind of pattern like if 3 words like how many space and if 5 words have many space I donno.. well thanks Kept_Wheat ill go try that…
Report, edit, etc...Posted by joker2kill on 2006-02-07 at 22:31:39
we got tuts for everything...and this just happens to be a very good one!!
Overlapping Tutorial
Report, edit, etc...Posted by O)FaRTy1billion on 2006-02-07 at 23:12:24
Specifically where are you overlapping?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-07 at 23:27:06
That tutorial takes tons of tests. It has to do with pixel length of each character. Sc isnt written in Unicode so it isnt simple to find out. Basically in game stacks have 1 tab at start, 2 or 3 in outgames. Then using format above. The end tabs should be between 2-4 and 0-4spaces That should make things go a lot faster. You can use notpad to check it faster to make sure it works.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2006-02-08 at 03:10:12
Ok, the great secrets of perfect overlapping. cool1.gif
Use the suggested way in the tutorial, it works for most things.
But for the rare words that do not work perfectly with that method, or you do not wish to place them at one side of the text box, there are several tricks that I have found.

The general settup: [spaces][overlap1][word1][spaces][overlap2][word2][spaces][overlap3][word3][spaces]
What I mean by infront of/behind. [infront of][word][behind]

General tips:
Tabs: Tabs are basically several spaces, and generally bring the text to a set incriment. To make the most of a combination of spaces and tabs, place tabs before spaces.

Overlap <- vs ->: Two back overlaps (<-) count as one front overlap (->) Placing several overlaps in one area (Either overlap 1,2, or 3) makes the influence of spaces greater. Used singly, one (->) overlap generally is better at centering text, while one (<-) overlap is better at moving text left. (THIS IS NOT ALWAYS THE CASE THOUGH)

Difference of location in spaces: If you place spaces at the very begining of overlaps, they count as pretty much the same thing as adding spaces to the very end. Having spaces behind the first word make the second word and the third word move left at close to the same incriment. Having spaces behind the second word makes the third word move greatly to the left, while the second word moves only a little. If you place the spaces in front of or behind the overlap, while still between the same two words, they are the same.

If the words still don't fit properly after everything you've tried, try placing a period to the end of one of the backmost overlaps, if you want you can make it colorless, but something out of the way makes everything change, sometimes for the best.

Many of these rules apply to overlaps of only two words.
I may not be as accurate for these as I was for the three stacked words, because these are generally easier to work with, so I just sorta freehand it.

Spaces for two words: Placing spaces before the first word also count as spaces behind the second word, but spaces in between the two make them do about the same movement except slightly less then half of the force of placing the spaces in the front or back.

The most important thing to remember when dealing with personalized overlaps is that THEY TAKE TIME! I spent about 4 hours getting the one of my name found in all my maps forces section. (Granted its the only one I've seen where the front overlap is inbetween the two other overlaps, which I think is cool)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Insane.oO on 2006-02-08 at 16:06:12
QUOTE(BoyScout @ Feb 7 2006, 10:15 PM)
ahh 1 help w/e..

well i was asking becuase some people seem to get overlap in there first try.. when it takes like 10 trys sometime for me...

I mean there must be some kind of pattern like if 3 words like how many space and if 5 words have many space I donno.. well thanks Kept_Wheat ill go try that…
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I can do some things first try like the name of the map and my accnt name smile.gif

It usually takes me forever to get it too
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SkuLL on 2006-02-08 at 20:03:59
Lots of information on lapping. Thanks. I really wanted to know and I might have made a thread anyways if BoyScout didn't. But since he did, I don't have to. I'll try lapping soon. Thank you!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Red2Blue on 2006-02-10 at 16:48:55
If you wanted some examples of overlapping there's currently a whole list of overlaps for every single Oo member in the Oo clan forums at the bottom. Be sure to check it out. It's all 2x stacks. Good learning tool if you don't already know. tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oblivion on 2006-02-10 at 17:34:05
Overlapping's fun and easy once you get the hang of it. Just copy some pointers from inside the parenthesis in this post:


(BACK)(COLOR)(WORD)(SPACE)(FRONT)(COLOR)(WORD)(TAB)(TAB)(TAB)(TAB)(TAB)(SPACE)


That should take care of a double lappy on the titles of Forces. If you wanted to overlap a unit then simply:


(BACK)(COLOR)(WORD)(SPACE)(FRONT)(COLOR)(WORD)(INVISY)wwwwwwww


You might need to go on Microsoft Word to get the TAB's.
Alright that takes care of that so try it out and have fun.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2006-02-11 at 15:14:14
Invisible w's aren't as good as using other methods, they don't let you do really long names.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Friut on 2006-02-11 at 18:46:09
I found one that works on *MOST* names.

[0Front][8 Spaces][Word1][0Back][Word2][7 Spaces]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RedNara on 2006-02-12 at 12:07:23
wow lost of stuff thanks guys smile.gif ill try them all out well i guess i can close also... thanks a lot guys smile.gif
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