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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-02-19 at 05:27:25
OK we all know the recent history of NR death event. For those who don't here is a overview:

  • 28.12.05 - It is still unclear who posted the death thread, but it was posted that NR died on 27.12.05 and no further posts were made by NR account since then.

  • Right after that multiple all kinds of discussions started about the recent event. Seemed that everyone has a different opinion. Also many flame wars started as people couldn't agree about recent event. There were to many opinions to state them all. News topic.

  • 29.12.05, I decided to host a CTF tournament. When the news appeared I decided to make the tourney be hold in honour of NR. I think that would be unethical to do otherwise.

  • Multiple SEN members started to wear NR's anarchy mark. They tried to honour NR by this, of course not everybody agreed with them.

  • 30.12.05, Yoshi came by to tell off his opinion about the recent event. He stated it pretty unreservedly that he dislikes how most members involved in this acted. He posted this thread to show his opinion about recent events. But he spoke more of the people discussing NR's death that the event itself. Eventually this thread turned into flame war.

  • Some began to think that CTF tourney dishonors NR. Deathknight took the role and started flaming the tourney. Later it was fined and I was forced by these some people(including Moose) to remove NR's remembrance from the tourney.

  • Yoshi's thread turned into Flame war. People started to flame or argue about things that doesn't matter the recent event. Few people even started to argue over themselves. And of course a lot of 1 line flame comments were posted. Moose closed the thread in the same day.

  • People begun to calm down since then.

  • 07.01.06, `BiG~kAhOoNa` openly showed off that he dislikes NR and all the people who claimed to honour NR. He posted this thread. It was closed before it turned into flame war.

  • `BiG~kAhOoNa` made a thread about his last thread. Eventually it turned into a flame war. Multiple people stated that `BiG~kAhOoNa` is a attention whore. The topic was closed in the same day and `BiG~kAhOoNa`calmed down and understood that he can get himself banned if he proceeds on this matter.

  • Random people begun to fake NR on Battle.net.

  • 15.01.06, Devil_O_Duce started the 2nd wave of NR madness by posting his death. Some still took it seriously but most showed their disdainful opinion about this. Even more people begun to think that this and even NR death thread was just a joke.

  • Many people started to throw around random jokes about death threads on SEN.

  • Several more random people begun to post their death. It seemed to become a fashion thing to post your death. Of course the black most part mocked on these people and never took it seriously. Mostly because No one posted their death before NR and now there everybody does that. Whatever people say, I believe no one actually believed any of the death threads after NR.

  • 11.02.06, Doodan made a mock death thread. It openly showed off that the death thread madness must stop because it's just stupid and lowers SEN quality. So far it did it's job and no other death threads are made since then.

  • 16.02.06, a new account Teh_Bun-Bun was created. This is the first account after NR death event, that openly shows that it is supposed to be NR himself. The person who owns this account is apparently either is NR or someone who is faking NR.
    The NR death event history ends here as it may only follow this new account and not the event itself.


Ok, now that most questions are answered before they were stated, to the point.

Multiple people have asked my opinion about this Teh_Bun-Bun. I can't seem to understand what exactly is it supposed to mean but I can sure see that it is supposed to be NR or someone who is faking NR. I don't know most of NR's close friends so I may not know few things about Teh_Bun-Bun.

I posted this because I am terribly lost in this matter and want to clear things up and know who Teh_Bun-Bun is. Can someone please tell me that? Or just post what do you think about who Teh_Bun-Bun is. I don't want to start another offending discussion on this matter so please leave you flame/spam and other useless comments to yourself if you have any wink.gif

Also I would like to discuss what should or shouldn't we do about this Teh_Bun-Bun account.

What if it is NR? Yes some may be happy that his alive. But on the other hand, look at the mess he made, all the flame/spam.

In case of another fake NR? I believe that should be out of question that it should be forced to drop NR's posting/appearance/acting style. Because it is just another mock at someone's death.

I would also want to hear what Teh_Bun-Bun can say about this matter.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2006-02-19 at 06:49:32
I, for one, doubt that Bun Bun is NR. Mainly because it tries too hard to prove that it is NR. Also, if you look at the first post Bun Bun made in the anarchy thread, it says that people have ignored that person's posts there so far and so he/she must "come to you in this form" (or something along those lines). To me, the account seems very much like an impersonation. There's just something off about it. I actually do believe that NR is dead. I think it comes down to what you choose to believe because it's far too difficult to prove someone has or has not died on the internet when you don't really know much about them. That being said, I believe that NR is dead and every account anywhere claiming to be NR is a fake.

ADDITION:
Here's the link to Bun Bun's first post. It clearly admits to having already posted in that thread (obviously with a different account). I might as well quote it incase they go back and edit it.

Here's the quote:
QUOTE(Teh_Bun-Bun @ Feb 16 2006, 07:14 AM)
[center]user posted image This thread fails. Huff Raid, noobs.

Surfing through a proxy is no fun. sad.gif

No one even bothered reading my other replies in this thread, so I've come to you in this form.

None of you are looking at the big picture. You're all too narrow-minded to comprehend what it is that we Anarchists actually do and think. With all these hypothetical 'but what if you had no food, and decided to rob your neighbor?' The thing is, you wouldn't be in a situation where you wouldn't have food. It's the current system of opression and hierarchy that causes people in the lower 'class' to go hungry. With equal rights, no one would be denied the necessities. Just because you clean the bathrooms at Taco Bell for a living doesn't make you less of a person, doesn't mean your liberties can be denied. But, sadly, that's the way it is in this world.
You guys don't look at the issue from both sides of the discussion. Sure, if there were no rules you could go around raping and pillaging at will, but is that all that's stopping you from doing that right now? Do animals have crime and punishment rules? Do animals go around killing for no reason? Didn't think so. You've all been polluted by the media, to pull a line from Anti-Flag  -  Anatomy Of Your Enemy, "Fourth step: Have the media broadcast only the ruling party's information, this can be done through state run media.
Remember, in times of conflict all for-profit media repeats the ruling party's information.
Therefore all for-profit media becomes state-run."
Capitalism does not work. You've all been brainwashed, you're no longer thinking for yourself.
The replies I've seen from some of you in this topic literally made me laugh. You're so obviously oblivious to any views other than your own, you come off as an arrogant, ignorant fool. Anarchy is not chaos, it's the exact opposite. Forming communitys where equality and liberty apply the same to everyone is the best form of society.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-02-19 at 06:53:50
How do you think, what should we do about this tehbb?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2006-02-19 at 06:58:07
QUOTE(DEAD @ Feb 19 2006, 06:53 AM)
How do you think, what should we do about this tehbb?
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That's not my call to make. Also, it admits to using a proxy, so I don't know if the IP address can be traced that way. However, if it were my call, and I could find out who was making the account, I would ban it and the imposter's original account. I would also make stricter rules about the discussion of NR, because a lot of people use that as a hot button to get flame wars going (I'm not talking about you, DEAD). But that's just me.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-02-19 at 07:11:55
Is this the original account?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2006-02-19 at 07:14:18
QUOTE(DEAD @ Feb 19 2006, 07:11 AM)
Is this the original account?
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It may very well be.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by AgenT_Nick on 2006-02-19 at 08:44:30
whow if you look at the avitars ones eyes are closed and ones are opened! there the same people.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-02-19 at 09:38:56
Ting_of_de_past or whatever his/her name was was that Skcusamin guy. And that Skcusamin guy was apparently Kellimus's friend. I thought he could be Kellimus because his name is Nima sucks backwards, it just sounds like a Kellimus like thing to do.

Anyway, I've seen this person post, and I was sort of hesitant to do anything, or say anything, but I agree, I'm very confused on this matter.


It seems there is some skullduggery(+1 vocab points) going on here.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-02-19 at 09:43:39
Sounds reasonable as Kellimus is banned and tehbb is using proxy ermm.gif
I think that whoever that is, he should be fined because of how he is acting NR and forced to stop.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-02-19 at 09:46:11
I have a feeling this person isn't going to care about 200 minerals.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-02-19 at 10:59:56
I think any member that "dies" should be permanently banned. After all, they're dead, right?
EDIT: Actually, this would cause everyone's "little brother" to pop up and get them banned. Maybe any other account that looks like the person should be instantly banned.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mune'R0x on 2006-02-19 at 11:03:01
Being banned for dying is an incentive for me to not die.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Jimranor on 2006-02-19 at 11:27:47
teh bunbun repyed in my topic here --> http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=26793

and tehbunbuns current signature is your resident anarcist (<-- spelt wrong)
at the time im posting this.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-02-19 at 11:35:08
QUOTE(Mini Moose 2707 @ Feb 19 2006, 06:59 PM)

I think any member that "dies" should be permanently banned. After all, they're dead, right?
EDIT: Actually, this would cause everyone's "little brother" to pop up and get them banned. Maybe any other account that looks like the person should be instantly banned.
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I Had the same idea biggrin.gif Maybe I even posted something like that tongue.gif

About the little brother problem, well don't give your account info around like that or kill your little family tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-02-19 at 12:06:12
I don't believe all this "LOL MY BROTHER DID IT STUFF"

I just don't think a brother would post in the right forum, and all that other stuff.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by @:@ on 2006-02-19 at 12:17:50
A easy fix to this problem is for Minimoose to check the IP address of both NR and Teh-Butt and see if they correlate. (tracert if you will, please)

Easy fix. End of discussion, thank you and have a nice day!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Merrell on 2006-02-19 at 12:19:22
You're giving teh-bun-bun the attention he wants. Just ignore him already. He's not NR, NR had a different attitude, while teh-bun-bun is just an a-hole.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-02-19 at 12:21:44
QUOTE(@:@ @ Feb 19 2006, 08:17 PM)

A easy fix to this problem is for Minimoose to check the IP address of both NR and Teh-Butt and see if they correlate. (tracert if you will, please)

Easy fix. End of discussion, thank you and have a nice day!

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Except, if you would read the details you would notice that tehbb claims to be here via proxy. But yea, we can never know ermm.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by @:@ on 2006-02-19 at 12:25:11
Yeah, well, tracert would most likely bounce to his general location. You would find some match.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-02-19 at 12:27:06
Also you can't always trust IP addresses. Mine for example changes itself twice a week, don't even ask why cause I don't know tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by @:@ on 2006-02-19 at 12:27:47
However, his ISP does not change, and that would be in the tracert.


edit: Your IP address "renews" with your ISP, based on the configuration set by your ISP. Some ISPs never renew their customers IP address (unlesss you do a force renewal) and some renew every 3-7 days. Its common.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-02-19 at 12:30:27
QUOTE(Merrell @ Feb 19 2006, 08:19 PM)
You're giving teh-bun-bun the attention he wants. Just ignore him already. He's not NR, NR had a different attitude, while teh-bun-bun is just an a-hole.
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Yea, let's ignore everything. Let's also ignore spam/flame wink.gif
On the other hand, let's find out the truth and take action...

QUOTE(@:@ @ Feb 19 2006, 08:27 PM)
However, his ISP does not change, and that would be in the tracert.
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I see.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by olaboy- on 2006-02-19 at 12:45:36
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user posted image This thread fails. Huff Raid, noobs.

Surfing through a proxy is no fun. sad.gif


TehBB is using a proxy, meaning the ip is different...

BTW, has anyone noticed that Nuclear Rabbit has 666 posts?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Freedawk on 2006-02-19 at 13:04:58
I still don't understand why TBB didn't look at this forum once yet...She would flame like a zombie...On fire tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by olaboy- on 2006-02-19 at 13:16:23
Probably because it was recently made eight hours ago.
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