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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-03-04 at 20:52:03
QUOTE(Zombie)
This is clearly my own opinion on how to greatly improve the site.


Moose, I have nothing agaisnt you, But the way you take actions clearly makes it obvious you dont belong in the "admin" ranks.You banned kelli, For "using proxies" what is a stupid reason i think, You dont pay any attention to current situations that are going on, Kelli doesnt flame, he points out things and babys go crying. Moose, You abuse you're power, Instead of banning spammers and flamers you ban someone that points out LOGICAL reasons. I'm not hear to spend my time flaming, I want to have fun and talk to people that wont flame when you bring up opinons. I see people flaming all the time, I always report them when i see them. Half of the time a mod wont do one little thing. You hate the fact when some one brings up some thing about you and its bad. Like this post most likely will be deleated and ill be banned for telling you, You're flaws.I ask the majority of sen, Do you want a admin who abuses his power, Refuses to accept he isnt perfect, He lets flamers and spamers get away with things. I've been at this site for a long time, I never had a problem intell yoshi left and you took over, You should of never of accepted the job, You are not made for it. I might be considered a "flamer" because i defend myself, I dont go around like merrel flaming everyone because i dont like them. You dont bother fixing any bugs that are pointed out to you. You obviously dont care. Do we want a admin that wont bother fixing bugs? Moose you banned kelli for no reason, you might say flaming but i'm sure some people can agree he wasnt, You refuse to ban members that are pretty much hated by all. Like nimadude. Moose you  Allow flame. Subtlely or not.  You allows it.  Nimadude can call people worthless pos pot-heads, Merrell can right out flame.  You allow spam.  GgG can put no through into his posts, thus being spam.  Red2Blue can have 88 some odd posts in one day.  Lithium can spam the Serious and Lite discussion forum. I might be banned for saying this. I might not, Banned or not, You people can deny the fact that moose, Does not belong as a admin.

And Moose.  Why am I suspended for voicing my opinion?  I guess you really do abuse your Administrator Powers


And the latest abuse was deleting this opinion...
QUOTE(kellimus)
Now why did you delete this??  That's abuseing powers in my opinion..  Just because it points out facts, you erase it from exiastance

QUOTE(Kellimus @ Mar 5 2006, 03:26 AM)

Wow.  You call yourself a an admin?  Holy shiz! You could have fooled me!  Some admin you are.  You let flamers roam these once proud boards, and you let spammers fill every forum?  You let quadruple accounters go for months on end?  Choosing you as an admin, was a total mistake, like Yoshi has said before.  You\'re the most horrible admin a site could ever have.  Yoshi was right.  It was a mistake choosing you as an admin.  To bad you\'re \"blind and dumb\", because it\'s so true.  It\'s to bad that you\'re horrible at administrating anything.  I\'ve seen every site you run, and they always go down hill.  Guess what this site has been doing since you\'ve became an administrator?  I\'m not going to repeat myself.  There is no need to. W ait..  Maybe I should..  Maybe I should repeat everything over and over, so all these stupid ass dumbfarks here can finally get it imbedded into their thick skulls that you farking suck. And no.  I\'m not angry that you banned me.  I\'ve been holding this in ever since Yoshi has left.  But now, I have an actual reason to finally point out how pathetic you are.  If you check any statistic sites, you will notice that since you have become admin, the statistics have shown that you do poorly. 

Hell, even Yoshi says so:
QUOTE(Yoshi_Da_Sniper)
1/29/2006 3:49:08 PM Yoshi_Da_Sniper: http://www.alexa.com/data/details/?url=www.staredit.net 
1/29/2006 3:49:14 PM Yoshi_Da_Sniper: Traffic Rank for staredit.net: 917,320 (down396,659) 
1/29/2006 3:49:30 PM Yoshi_Da_Sniper: the sites ranking used to hover around 350k


Ah Yes. Shows that you suck ad admin. Oh, here is the site to go directly to the statistics for the past year to see them for yourself: http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_...taredit.net#top
Notice since October, there hasn\'t been as many lines? Why is that? Oh, that\'s right,

Moose.

So let the statistics show that you suck. You also need to learn who to punish. You let flamers (Merrell, Wilhelm, S.T.A.R.S-Chris, ect...) flame everyone just because \"they are respected\". You let spammers (Red2Blue, GgG-Deathawk, Lithium, ect...) roam throughout this once glorious board. You really do suck at your job. Aren\'t admins supposed to fix problems, and not cause them? Get doing your job noob. Fix the picture upload like a good admin does. And learn how to quit being such a dumb noobie.
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I say retire, let fresh blood into SEN like DTBK. Face it man, you have lead SEN downhills, how about stop trying to fix it and pass the spot...

For the revolution!!! It's time to clean up mess you made Mr. Moose...

Also, if you will fine/ban me it will only show that you can't take a criticism and use your power to avoid it. In other words abuse.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Freedawk on 2006-03-04 at 20:53:23
Now I think Moose should learn how to be a good admin...Mayube buy the book "Admining forums for dummies."
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-03-04 at 20:53:56
Sorry for triple post, I got errors and thought that it didn't post.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-03-04 at 20:58:57
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Ah Yes.  Shows that you suck ad admin.  Oh, here is the site to go directly to the statistics for the past year to see them for yourself: http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_...taredit.net#top
Notice since October, there hasn\'t been as many lines?  Why is that?  Oh, that\'s right, 

Moose.

So let the statistics show that you suck.  You also need to learn who to punish.  You let flamers (Merrell, Wilhelm, S.T.A.R.S-Chris, ect...) flame everyone just because \"they are respected\".  You let spammers (Red2Blue, GgG-Deathawk, Lithium, ect...) roam throughout this once glorious board.  You really do suck at your job.  Aren\'t admins supposed to fix problems, and not cause them?  Get doing your job noob.  Fix the picture upload like a good admin does.  And learn how to quit being such a dumb noobie.
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I say retire, let fresh blood into SEN like DTBK. Face it man, you have lead SEN downhills, how about stop trying to fix it and pass the spot...

For the revolution!!! It's time to clean up mess you made Mr. Moose...

Also, if you will fine/ban me it will only show that you can't take a criticism and use your power to avoid it. In other words abuse.
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Moose had every right to delete Kellimus's post. It was filled with flame, read it through if you must. Moose is doing a fine job being an admin if you ask me. People like Zombie and Kellimus complain because they don't get what they want, big deal. They're at fault, not Moose.

Eek, quotes aren't working sad.gif

LW: Fixing quotes.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Merrell on 2006-03-04 at 21:00:51
What the heck? NO. Moose should stay an administrator. You guys are really being unneccasarily rough.

Come on guys, he's the only administrator, all he needs is a partner to help out. All the pressure is being put on him. The only reason that topic was deleted is because Kellimus had to state it in such a flaming and unconstructive way.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-03-04 at 21:16:36
Let me explain some things.

Why was Kellimus banned? He agreed to a one month suspension. The entire time, he was using proxies and had multiple accounts, continuously breaking his terms and taking advantage of my mercy. Why was his topic deleted? The conversation with Yoshi is pure lies. (why Yoshi would give his MSN to Kellimus is beyond me) and the entire topic is littered with spam and flames. DEAD, you of all people as someone who's been here awhile, should be able to find at least five things wrong with that topic in under a minute. Not that I even need to explain this because of rule #9. http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=22923

Why is Zombie suspended? Not for voicing his opinion, for hitting 100% warn level. You can even see the topic he made on it. http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=27337 . I didn't make him hit 100%, a moderator whose job isn't to handle those cases did, so obviously the suspensions have to stack. He's welcome back when his time is served.

Moose doesn't fix bugs?
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=27017
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=27162
Attachment bug.
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=26321
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=26042
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=25891 <- Guess what, the site would still be down if I didn't fix this one.
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=25183

And of course, the wonderful attacks on my character and my hubris. I think its fairly obvious that I'm human and cannot read and deal out fair punishments for everything said in the site's 400,000+ posts. I hate to break it to you guys, but I'm not Jesus (nor do I ever remember saying that). Its obvious that a lot of this spam and flaming takes place in the other section, but I think you overlooked something. I am not a moderator of those forums. And yeah, if you didn't notice, Moogle's a new moderator in the mapping section, and the Null forum has been beefed up to include all Global Mods. Yes, that does sound like shifting the blame, but that is fact. And I sarcastically apologize to everyone who thinks I should spend 8 hours on sleeping and 16 on SEN per day.

Oh, and sorry, DEAD. I'm not going to take your bait and ban you. You're giving me constructive criticism, so I have no reason to.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Forsaken on 2006-03-04 at 21:23:07
Pizzowned...


Thank you for that response. Not that I was against you, but very well said.

Besides, a lot of the minor bugs posted are irrelevant to the sites function. And will be changed upon the release of SeNv5.

By the way, is that going to be released?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2006-03-04 at 21:24:43
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Why was Kellimus banned? He agreed to a one month suspension. The entire time, he was using proxies and had multiple accounts, continuously breaking his terms and taking advantage of my mercy. Why was his topic deleted? The conversation with Yoshi is pure lies. (why Yoshi would give his MSN to Kellimus is beyond me) Not that I even need to explain this because of rule #9. http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=22923


Well that explains a lot of things. Thank god he's banned now. biggrin.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-03-04 at 21:24:45
That isn't a question for me, isolatedpurity is in charge of coding SEN v5.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Jordan on 2006-03-04 at 21:24:52
i think that moose just pwned this topic to death gj moose wink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SiLeNT(U) on 2006-03-04 at 21:24:56
I don't agree with you, in my opinion, Moose is doing a pretty damn good job of being an admin. I'm not sucking up or anything, but he's only one person, he can't see everything at once, he does what he can. Being an admin isn't easy, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't do a much better job if you were admin either.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Forsaken on 2006-03-04 at 21:25:48
QUOTE(Mini Moose 2707 @ Mar 4 2006, 06:24 PM)
That isn't a question for me, isolatedpurity is in charge of coding SEN v5.
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I take it he is just worrying about the new site I presume... Hmm... I guess I'll just bug him when ever he logs back onto AIM. If he ever does! blink.gif

EDIT:

900th Post. yahoo.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Jordan on 2006-03-04 at 21:27:44
if only you could see what ipb is.. alot of people dont understand that its the largest customizable forum ever. editing all the html files with bugs and managing shoutbox bans, global bans, and trying to make everything nice & easy. it's a tough job but he's done great things. (may i hint the 50/50 raffle?)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-03-04 at 21:28:47
Okie dokie moose, just tell me when you'll reply to my PM, since it wasn't completely relating to the 3 things you said.
wink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Freedawk on 2006-03-04 at 21:31:53
Well, Moose, I still recommend another active or semi-active Admin to help you moderate the forums. I mean this is a small staff for a rather large community so why not get someone you trust to help?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-03-04 at 21:33:43
If we're going to hire somebody to moderate the site, we don't need a new admin. A global mod/group of moderators could be used, though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Freedawk on 2006-03-04 at 21:36:09
Yeah but still...Even though Moose does know alot about bugs and stuff, there are plenty of bugs that people report everyday. With all due respect to Moose though, Moose doesn't have enough talent to fix plenty of bugs in a short time period.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-03-04 at 21:37:15
Who said to open this?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-03-04 at 21:39:55
I said closed until I make my post. And I've posted.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-03-04 at 21:41:16
QUOTE(moose)
And I sarcastically apologize to everyone who thinks I should spend 8 hours on sleeping and 16 on SEN per day

QUOTE(kellimus)
Get people who actually do their job and there wouldn't be these problems
QUOTE(kellimus)
Point out that I never once posted while I was suspended.  Zordon has only talked to me four times.  He was putting words in my mouth


QUOTE(kellimus)
Doesn't look like lies to me, Moose

[21:53:47] Mike: mind removing the post in this screenshot:
[21:53:48] Mike: http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopi...85&#entry439385
[21:53:52] Mike: it has my msn
[21:53:56] Mike: in the titlebar

QUOTE(zombie)
You're responce is a nothing impressive moose, You're nothing defending all fronts here, You claim that i was suspended for a 100% warn lvl, Indeed i was, But my suspension was lifted today, I came back asking why my warn lvl was still 100%, I got flamed and i told you about it, You're reaction was... GUESS WHAT,  You didn't do one thing,Besides you decided to resuspend me after i posted in kellis thread, People use logic here, I say moose stays behind the scenes and fixes bugs and DTBK is promoted if he wants, I disagree with you and you suspend me, Thats not a admin i want.You're acting like we expect you to act like god, No we expect you to act responsibe, The yoshi conversation is true, I talked to yoshi for awile to. So without you're any proof of that its not real you need to surrender on that defense.


Ok, overall your saying that you do your job good. Then how come SEN in going downhill ever since you became admin? Is it magic? I don't think so.

And I really think you should reconsider the MAM suggestion.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2006-03-04 at 21:43:36
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Then how come SEN in going downhill ever since you became admin? Is it magic? I don't think so.
Because of my inactivity.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-03-04 at 21:43:38
Moose is more than capable of fixing the site. I mean, he's the one who fixes the site every time he goes down.
You think assigning an admin is easy, well, who do you suggest for admin?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2006-03-04 at 21:46:16
What's tearing this site apart is all of the damn fighting. Just swallow your pride and shut up. That applies to all sides.

Also, why are you provoking the guy that has control of the delete button? I'm not saying he'll do it, but it's not wise to piss all over the guy that could destroy EVERYTHING if he wanted.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-03-04 at 21:46:55
Zombie:
(Other moderator)'s suspension - SEPERATE.
100% warn suspension - SEPERATE.
It is not (other moderator)'s job to handle a 100% warn scenario.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Freedawk on 2006-03-04 at 21:47:38
QUOTE(GgG-Deathawk @ Mar 4 2006, 09:43 PM)
Moose is more than capable of fixing the site. I mean, he's the one who fixes the site every time he goes down.
You think assigning an admin is easy, well, who do you suggest for admin?
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Exactly...Moose can take his time with choosing another admin. The time is worth more than the spam/flame.
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