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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ice_Inferno_X3 on 2006-03-08 at 16:58:20
I think the mario party series NEEDS to end. Every game is the same with minor improvements and the mini game originality is...meh! DEATH TO MARIO PARTY!

What are your opinions?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-03-08 at 17:06:36
Dynasty Warriors, everything you listed are perfectly good series, that bring in a lot of money.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HorroR on 2006-03-08 at 17:32:55
The 3D Castlevania series of games. In my opinion, only the 2D side scrollers are good.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Atreyu) on 2006-03-08 at 18:31:46
grand theft auto needs to burn in hell....worthless game ever made.

WHO IS THE KID WHO SAID FINAL FANTASTY??? ARE YOU SERIOUS man you must not even know what a true game is
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-03-08 at 18:39:35
Mario Party and Pokemon, defenitely. Both were interesting and innovative originally... but now are just reusing the same stale ideas.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MeteorX00 on 2006-03-08 at 18:43:36
Ghost Recon needs to die. Its getting old.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by olaboy- on 2006-03-08 at 18:44:26
Mario Party is actually pretty fun.

Pokemon, Dynasty Warriors, Gran Theft Auto (Or atleast revamp the graphics engine).

How could you want Halo or Final Fantasy to end!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zwitch on 2006-03-08 at 18:49:40
Pokemon, that crap has been around for almost a decade now... but I guess so long as there are little kids with huge imaginations and illogical thinking, sure, they can just make more Pokemon to ertertain children with.

Also, I haven't seen much on this lately, so I think it's pretty much died out, but Yu-Gi-Oh has to go (rhymes! tongue.gif ), especially those cards... burn the cards!!! Burn em all!!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lyon on 2006-03-08 at 18:55:03
I Would have to say Pokemon and Final Fantasy, Pokemon..well..it Sucked when they made 8659286593285932859285932 Monsters with uncreative Designs and names. and Final Fantasy. there have been 12 Games. farking end it already its just a Cash in for Sony. thats where they get all there Money. o Btw : Mario party is teh fun lol w00t.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Thesieger on 2006-03-08 at 18:57:09
pokemon NEEDS to go. 10 years of the same damn thing yet with 'better' gameplay. yeah right its the same thing over with just new poeple

how could the halo series end? It is teh pwn happy.gif

FF's ok but i think the best one is FF7 so i really dont care if it ends (as long as they dont take my game)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2006-03-08 at 19:12:12
Halo 2 is all you really need...
What more could you POSSIBLY ADD??

So in Halo 3 we have: Jackel Shields and Sword Fighting
Now tell me, is that really worth shelling out $600 for an Xbox 360 and then $60 for the game itself? -_-
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-03-08 at 19:51:57
The World Series of Poker, please?

And how about the Madden series? I can't stand how these games sell so much, they're the same, boring, repetitive game every year, with a new control scheme. Stupid EA Sports --;
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ice_Inferno_X3 on 2006-03-08 at 20:38:21
meh pokemon sells millions every time. nintendo isnt going to kill its cash cow...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-03-08 at 20:39:30
QUOTE(Venarus @ Mar 8 2006, 06:55 PM)
I Would have to say Pokemon and Final Fantasy, Pokemon..well..it Sucked when they made 8659286593285932859285932 Monsters with uncreative Designs and names.

There's only like 450 buddy. And uncreative designs and names? Compared to what? "Orge 1 and 2" from any Final Fantasy game?

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Yeah and it also holds 2 of the bests games ever made in history of gaming. Why would you want that to end?

This thread is actually pretty stupid all together, no one is forcing you to play the games.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2006-03-08 at 20:45:27
QUOTE(MeteorX00 @ Mar 8 2006, 06:43 PM)
Ghost Recon needs to die. Its getting old.
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The new one on 360 called advanced warfare will be very different and awesome !! ^_^

QUOTE(Soulshifter @ Mar 8 2006, 07:12 PM)
Halo 2 is all you really need...
What more could you POSSIBLY ADD??

So in Halo 3 we have: Jackel Shields and Sword Fighting
Now tell me, is that really worth shelling out $600 for an Xbox 360 and then $60 for the game itself? -_-
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Already reserved it lol and a 360 is 300 or 400 depending on which u get.
QUOTE(GgG-Deathawk @ Mar 8 2006, 07:51 PM)
The World Series of Poker, please?

And how about the Madden series? I can't stand how these games sell so much, they're the same, boring, repetitive game every year, with a new control scheme. Stupid EA Sports --;
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I have madden 1998,2000, 2002, 2005. ^_^ But i dont think i will buy another sports game for a while only because they get extremely boring extremely quick.



I voted pokemon.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-03-08 at 21:59:23
QUOTE(n2o-SiMpSoNs @ Mar 8 2006, 08:45 PM)
Already reserved it lol and a 360 is 300 or 400 depending on which u get.
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That's odd, I didn't know you could reserve games that haven't even been annouced yet by the assumed devolper. However it's rumored to have Map Editor and some other crap that I didn't care about. If it has guns and vehicles i'll probably buy it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Atreyu) on 2006-03-08 at 21:59:54
Who ever thinks Final Fantasy needs to end do me a favor and go jump infront of a train please. FF7 was not as good as FFX
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KrAzY on 2006-03-08 at 22:52:58
QUOTE(MeteorX00 @ Mar 8 2006, 03:43 PM)
Ghost Recon needs to die. Its getting old.
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Seriously, Ghost Recon must not die, it was based on a book!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dark_Marine_123 on 2006-03-08 at 23:03:45
Ok, first off DW can stay, Pokemon could up the game play a tad, Mario Party needs to have ALL THE MINI GAMES THEY EVER MADE IN ONE GAME!, and halo just needs to stop being on XBox, but the one true series that needs to die is...

Nintendo's Line up of kiddie games on they're handhelds. All the games are for little kids or people who don't know what a good game is. But look at the PSP, video, MP3, roms if want, pics, and easy ass mutliplayer gaming. Not to mention fun games ;D

If you think GTA needs to die, play it, I was the same way, but I fell in love with GTA III O.O
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2006-03-08 at 23:15:47
QUOTE(Atreyu) @ Mar 8 2006, 08:59 PM)
Who ever thinks Final Fantasy needs to end do me a favor and go jump infront of a train please. FF7 was not as good as FFX
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If you ever say that again, I will track you down...
Final Fantasy 7 was so much better than Final Fantasy 10...


Now I couldn't beat FFX (Damn Semor and his robot form on the top of that one Mountain), but from what I hear, nothing past the part I got to was very good. There was Sin, big bad guy killing people, and Tidus. Some sort of time-warpy thing happen, he gets shot 1000 (or was it 10000?) years into the future, where technology is banished. Meet Yuna and others along the way, which disapointed me because Wakka, the blue guy, and Luna (Might have those names wrong) didn't have any side-stories or views into their past. Wakka is simply some guy, the blue guy is simply some warrior that wants to help, and Luna is simply Yuna's bodyguard. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Auron, from what I hear, was really a ghost the whole time. This is cool and all, but it doesn't tie into anything else. He's just a ghost, big whoop.
I also hear that Tidus is really long dead and is also a ghost. Once again, big whoop.
Sin is Tidus' father... Unoriginal Star Wars style (Luke, I am your father)
Now there's Sin, who is the big baddy at first, then there comes Semor and his gang. They just think the whole world would be better off dead, and start turning people into ghosts. Once again, not very original nor too plot twisting. So the technology bandits go to war with the technology-haters, and there's some cool stuff with that. I honestly never saw how this tied into the main plot of killing Sin and Semor, but I feel I may have overlooked something.
Then, from what I hear, you go on to kill the false god who was manipulating Semor and friends, and Tidus somehow becomes Sin.

Now Final Fantasy 7, for one, was told from the viewpoint of a somewhat insane character. (Cloud) Sepiroth is also portrayed to be badass, when in reality he's a pushover and Jenova is the one puppeteering him. Now Aeris is also puppetering Cloud, but in a less sinister way. Even after she's dead, she guides him. But it wasn't just a journey to the bad guy, kill him. Along the way, you see Cid's dreams of space shattered, you learn of Vincent's past, Cloud's past, Sepiroth's past, Red XIII's father's fate, etc. There were simply so many mini-stories that all tied into the main plot, as well as the antagonist and protagonist being purposely hidden.

Most people think it was:
Cloud vs Sepiroth

In reality it was:
Aeris vs Jenova

I could go on, but I'm sleepy and my brain is failing me.
And reading back now, I fear I may be acting like a complete ass and need to replay both games.... Goodnight all.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-03-09 at 09:26:46
QUOTE(Soulshifter @ Mar 8 2006, 11:15 PM)
Final Fantasy 7 was so much better than Final Fantasy 10...

You obviously played FFX trying to find any flaw in the game.
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Now I couldn't beat FFX (Damn Semor and his robot form on the top of that one Mountain), but from what I hear, nothing past the part I got to was very good. There was Sin, big bad guy killing people, and Tidus.

WHAT?! There was never a Seymour ROBOT. And everything past that was amazing, the plot was amazing past that part. And I hope you don't think Seymour was another thing that made the game crappy. Because there are plenty of cheap bosses in FF7.

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Some sort of time-warpy thing happen, he gets shot 1000 (or was it 10000?) years into the future, where technology is banished. Meet Yuna and others along the way, which disapointed me because Wakka, the blue guy, and Luna (Might have those names wrong) didn't have any side-stories or views into their past. Wakka is simply some guy, the blue guy is simply some warrior that wants to help, and Luna is simply Yuna's bodyguard. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Uh. Tidus gets thrown 1,000 years into the future by Sin, which is werid but it's nothing that FF7 hasn't screwed up. (Who's idea was it that a cat was a main character). Wakka is the leader of the Besaid Aurochs, and at the beginning of the game part guardian. Later on in the game he becomes a full Guardian to Yuna. There was a huge side story with that and how he has to deal with the game, and of course Chappu his brother. But I doubt you listened to the story and only continued to jam on the X button till you could find something wrong with the gameplay. LULU (Not Luna) and Wakka had an attachment to Chappu. Chappu was Wakka's brother, and Lulu was suppose to marry Chappu. However due to crusaders and "betraying" Wakka he decided to use an Al Bed machina weapon. Chappu was killed by Sin, and both Wakka and Lulu's life were changed. Also Lulu has a past with being a guardian to two other summoners, in the Calm Lands there is a side story where you find out that on Lulu's first pilgrmage her Summoner died. The other one you never hear about. And Wakka also hates the Al Bed throughout the entire game. Which plays into the game when Rikku an Al Bed character joins the party. Also how half of Yuna's heritage is Al Bed, and Wakka doesn't know.

Kimahri (The blue tiger you're refering to) has a small story but it's still important. He's the oldest guardian out of the cast, and has been with Yuna since she was 5 years old. Kimahri also has a past with Biran and Yenke the two other Ronso from his past. You find out late in the game that Kimahri left on a bad note with them. At the near end of the game (Before "Robot" Seymour) he defeats Biran and Yenke in a fight.

How's that for "No story at all" compared to the very vidid characters of FF7. A theif, who is theifish... A cat that is actually a shrina solider in disguise, or controlling it. And some raging black guy who hates everything and swears all the time.

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Auron, from what I hear, was really a ghost the whole time. This is cool and all, but it doesn't tie into anything else. He's just a ghost, big whoop.

And Vincent is what? A vampire, who's cool, but he has a gun, big whoop. Auron is the link to the truth of Yevon. He knows about the corruptness, and how Sin could never be defeated, it was only false hope. You find that out later in the game, but you never got that far. He's a very interesting character as well throughout the entire game. How he never gives a clear answer, and always giving advice etc.

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I also hear that Tidus is really long dead and is also a ghost. Once again, big whoop.
Sin is Tidus' father... Unoriginal Star Wars style (Luke, I am your father)

And Seirphoth was Cloud's idol and best friend... aw I'm going to cry sad.gif. Tidus narrated the entire story, and having him figure out how the world works and everything was very interesting. And him being a dream (Not dead) was also a twist in the story. Espically when considering the love intrest of Tidus and Yuna. Also brings up how many other people are dreams?

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Now there's Sin, who is the big baddy at first, then there comes Semor and his gang. They just think the whole world would be better off dead, and start turning people into ghosts. Once again, not very original nor too plot twisting. So the technology bandits go to war with the technology-haters, and there's some cool stuff with that. I honestly never saw how this tied into the main plot of killing Sin and Semor, but I feel I may have overlooked something.
Then, from what I hear, you go on to kill the false god who was manipulating Semor and friends, and Tidus somehow becomes Sin.

You're talking about the ending which you haven't even played through yet, so arguing on this point is useless. You don't even know how it ends, it could be incredblie and awesome and lockinge verything in together. But you don't actually care, try playing the entire game before critising the ending.
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Now Final Fantasy 7, for one, was told from the viewpoint of a somewhat insane character. (Cloud) Sepiroth is also portrayed to be badass, when in reality he's a pushover and Jenova is the one puppeteering him. Now Aeris is also puppetering Cloud, but in a less sinister way. Even after she's dead, she guides him. But it wasn't just a journey to the bad guy, kill him. Along the way, you see Cid's dreams of space shattered, you learn of Vincent's past, Cloud's past, Sepiroth's past, Red XIII's father's fate, etc.  There were simply so many mini-stories that all tied into the main plot, as well as the antagonist and protagonist being purposely hidden.

You're and idoit, that's barley the story of FF7 at all.

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Most people think it was:
Cloud vs Sepiroth

In reality it was:
Aeris vs Jenova

I rest my case.

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I could go on, but I'm sleepy and my brain is failing me.
And reading back now, I fear I may be acting like a complete ass and need to replay both games.... Goodnight all.
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You are, you shouldn't have posted.

EDIT: I made this post first on an Ibook during history when I was suppose to be doing research. I fixed quote tags, and, well. Macs suck.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-03-09 at 16:53:40
QUOTE(Golden-Fist @ Mar 8 2006, 10:06 PM)
Dynasty Warriors, everything you listed are perfectly good series, that bring in a lot of money.
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Amen. I enjoy Dynasty Warriors but they went to far -.-

QUOTE(Golden-Fist @ Mar 9 2006, 01:39 AM)
Yeah and it also holds 2 of the bests games ever made in history of gaming. Why would you want that to end?
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Not to mention FF7 and up have over 1 million copy sell-outs. But I lost faith in FF and I'll tell you why.

The president of the Final Fantasy project quit. Most of the best programmers quit. Bunch of nubs working on the FF project now.

ADDITION:
QUOTE(Soulshifter @ Mar 9 2006, 04:15 AM)
If you ever say that again, I will track you down...
Final Fantasy 7 was so much better than Final Fantasy 10...
Now I couldn't beat FFX (Damn Semor and his robot form on the top of that one Mountain), but from what I hear, nothing past the part I got to was very good. There was Sin, big bad guy killing people, and Tidus. Some sort of time-warpy thing happen, he gets shot 1000 (or was it 10000?) years into the future, where technology is banished. Meet Yuna and others along the way, which disapointed me because Wakka, the blue guy, and Luna (Might have those names wrong) didn't have any side-stories or views into their past. Wakka is simply some guy, the blue guy is simply some warrior that wants to help, and Luna is simply Yuna's bodyguard. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Auron, from what I hear, was really a ghost the whole time. This is cool and all, but it doesn't tie into anything else. He's just a ghost, big whoop.
I also hear that Tidus is really long dead and is also a ghost. Once again, big whoop.
Sin is Tidus' father... Unoriginal Star Wars style (Luke, I am your father)
Now there's Sin, who is the big baddy at first, then there comes Semor and his gang. They just think the whole world would be better off dead, and start turning people into ghosts. Once again, not very original nor too plot twisting. So the technology bandits go to war with the technology-haters, and there's some cool stuff with that. I honestly never saw how this tied into the main plot of killing Sin and Semor, but I feel I may have overlooked something.
Then, from what I hear, you go on to kill the false god who was manipulating Semor and friends, and Tidus somehow becomes Sin.

Now Final Fantasy 7, for one, was told from the viewpoint of a somewhat insane character. (Cloud) Sepiroth is also portrayed to be badass, when in reality he's a pushover and Jenova is the one puppeteering him. Now Aeris is also puppetering Cloud, but in a less sinister way. Even after she's dead, she guides him. But it wasn't just a journey to the bad guy, kill him. Along the way, you see Cid's dreams of space shattered, you learn of Vincent's past, Cloud's past, Sepiroth's past, Red XIII's father's fate, etc.  There were simply so many mini-stories that all tied into the main plot, as well as the antagonist and protagonist being purposely hidden.

Most people think it was:
Cloud vs Sepiroth

In reality it was:
Aeris vs Jenova

I could go on, but I'm sleepy and my brain is failing me.
And reading back now, I fear I may be acting like a complete ass and need to replay both games.... Goodnight all.
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Soulshifter. Meet god. aka me.

Now I'm a god at both games and beat both of them and while I was at it decided to replay both games of like what..20-30 times? I understand both stories way better then you do and your post proves it. Sit back for a long ass post

FF7's Story:

Your a mercenary named Cloud, and your with a terroist group called avalanch with a childhood friend(tifa) and a black man with a crappy Mr.T impression. Later on you meet the love of Cloud's live(which is short lived) Aeris or Aerith. After some events happen the Preident of Shinra Inc. was killed by Sephiroth(which Palmer confirmed to you) and you got a new party member Red XIII(if anyone's really bad at their math XIII = 13). You leave the city of midgar and you go tell everyone of how Sephiroth used to be Cloud's idel, then you go here and there and end up in Junon. By this time they've met a Ninja by the name of Yuffie(if your smart enough there are forests near junon, fight there until you meet with her.) You see the Airship Highwind and participate in Rufus' Welcome Party(Rufus is the new president of Shinra Inc.) And you finally meet up with Sephiroth on the Cargo Ship where you fight Junova. Then you end up at a resort town called Costa Del Sol, which you leave shortly after and travell to North Coral. That's when Barrets story kicks in, some stuff happens and you leave(I included Gold Saucer) Then you head to a village called Gongaga and you have a nice fight with the Turks. Then abit of Aeris' + Tifa's past come up. You go on to Cosmo Canyon where you hear Red XIII's story. Then on to Nibelheim and you meet Vincent(notice how I left out Cait Sith, well Reeve wasn't that important to mention =\) And Sephiroth, you have a nice chat and you leave for Rocket town where you meet Cid. Blah blah some crap happens then Aeris dies.(this is getting too long so ill sumurize the rest)

The rest of the game your basically chasing Sephiroth down, Cloud goes insane and finds himself. You learn more about everyone's past and you end up killing Sephiroth. The End.

FFX's Story.

This starts with a young Blitzball player named Tidus' he gets sucked 1000 years into the future and meets the following people. Auron, Wakka, Lulu, Yuna, Kimarhi, and the sexi ass Rikku tongue.gif. You travel around spira to defeat the bringer of death--Sin. Where you learn terriable truths and learn alot about the characters.(since you know so little about FFX I'm not gonna ruin it for you, go back and play it again AND listen to all the talking, it's important if you want to understand the story.) Anyway some shiz happens you find out Auron is already dead. Tidus' is a dream of the fayth and you lose them at the end, then comes X-2 which you souly want to play for the ending of it.

(I'm really too lazy to give a summary of what all happens on both games, it would take forever.)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Insane.oO on 2006-03-09 at 17:00:21
I think mario party is kinda getting old and should get over soon

They need to make another Zeldo too those games own
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2006-03-09 at 17:23:24
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And reading back now, I fear I may be acting like a complete ass and need to replay both games....

Thanks for being an meanie. Last night I was sleepy, and my brain doesn't quite work when I'm sleepy. Why else would I add this last line? I partially realized I was being an idiot and said so, no need to flame.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-03-09 at 17:30:27
I think that "Sims" need to end, I actually loved it when it came, but the expansion just added new stuff. Like it's a little addon to the same game but you have to re-buy it, thats stupid. Good that I never buy games tongue.gif
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