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So, I've been working on the storyline for my mod, and I know I've got a pretty complex theory on how everything is going to go after BW and why. It's always a very interesting topic for me, looking at different perspectives given the same information.

So I want to know: What do you all think is going to/should happen after BW and why?

I'd appreciate it if when you reply to this, you've played the whole game and the bonus missions, and actually know what you are talking about.

Let's make this a serious discussion, possibly even a small debate.

Perhaps the zerg try to invade earth. That would be cool. Earth forces could have special terran units.

The problem with that is, Earth is VERY far away from the other planets (read the first briefing of UED campaign?)

Well there would be 3 forces I would assume. The story would start out with you playing the Zerg Empire (Kerrigan) since Brood War left off with her defeating all her oppnents. Duran would still be at her side of course. Then near the end of that campgan Duran would reveal his Hybrid Protoss/Zerg and betray kerrigan. You could also add in a mutal alliance between Zeutral and Duran for the fight against Kerrigan. After that you would take on the Protoss campgan (Kerrigan still has not died). To keep thigns nice and badass the first few campagns will leave you destroying what little is left of the Zerg forces after Duran killed most of them. And finally Zeutral kills Kerrigan like he said he would at the end of Brood War. Decapitation for added effect. Duran would assume the new major zerg race afterwards, without an overmind (Zeutral and the gang would kill that before/after kerrigan) he uses his new Hybrids to attack everything. Since he knows that the Terran are near death he starts his long flight to Earth, the Terran homeworld. You would play as Terran last, your first few missions would have start out with a cutscene showing the hybrids taking a route towards earth. Chaos would start in the city and you'd play as most likely play as a new character surpressing the riots started in the city. Then the final missions would be some huge space battles against Hybrid ships and units, and a final showdown on Earth where Zeutral comes to help the Terran and in a joint formation all the hybrids are destroyed on earth. With an epilouge saying Terrans rebuilt themselves and took back their once owned planets, while Zeutral went around destroying all the Hybrids everywhere in the universe.

That was all improved, I could greatly improve on things in more detail if you'd like.

That's an interesting one...

However there are a few things I'd like to point out:
- Duran (I believe) is being controlled by some device of the Xel'Naga (yes, I am aware that the Zerg raped and beat them to death), through the temple on shakuras that the Protoss used in BW.

If that's true, which I have good reason to think it is from his statement in the bonus mission (something about serving an old and incredibly powerful purpose), he would not side with Zeratul (yes, Zeratul, not Zeutral). The Protoss were a failed creation, so the Xel'Naga would want them killed as well.

- I like the order that you thought of for the campaigns, but what about Stukov(he is alive again [proof] ), Mengsk, Raynor, Taldarin and Artanis?

Raynor also promised to kill Kerrigan in the end of BW.

Another thing about Zeratul and Raynor, is that it states that at the end of BW, they "Go their seperate ways and aren't heard from for a while." That doesn't mean that they can't come back, but for a little while, they should be out of the picture.

ADDITION:
I think that Mengsk will become the commander of the Kel Morian Combine, and once again pose a significant threat to Kerrigan and Duran.

I forgot that he said that, but whether or not he is actually CONTROLLED by the Xel'Naga is debateable. I'm guessing he's doing this in his own intrest to bring back a "Great power" in order to get a nice front row seat in power. Also if the Xel'Naga wanted to get themselves back to life wouldn't they just control someone stronger like kerrigan?

As for Protoss being failed experiment, I haven't studied the story THAT much. But I don't remeber any refrences to them being a failed experiment.


That was a very improvised roughest of rough drafts. I couldn't fit everyone in a single swoop. Of course this could take place a few years after Brood War, so some characters could've disappeared, or died from natural/warfare causes.


I don't believe Raynor was forced to kill his own Matriach . So it'd seem more fitting that Zeratul was to finish her off. However, it would be possible to get Raynor in there too.


I believe you mis-read the ending. It says that FENIX and Raynor parted ways, they were friends in the campagns and were basically the Duo of Starcraft. Zeratul wasn't really friends with Raynor, more of an accomplice. Fenix and Zeratul's relation was basically only in general command.

I'm sure I could think of a better way to get everyone in, and I could replay both Starcrafts again. It's a really complex story

EDIT:
Sadly the Stukov story you added in is the winner of a Trigger Map Contest I believe, and not actually MADE by blizzard, it's fan art. However it's very possible to add in that it happened. And I may be wrong anyway.

No, it is Zeratul and Raynor. Fenix is dead. Twice.

Meh I rewatched it, I guess you're right ;o

As for the Protoss being a failed creation:



I got this from the Starcraft manual story of the Protoss, which can be found here.

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Also, I just thought of something else about Duran. He was under Kerrigan's control, at least for a while, correct?

How could he break free of her power without the help of some outside force?

That's why I think they are controlling him.

I personnally the Terran's move to Shakuras (Warning, I just thought of this ) and Zeratul and the Dark Templar attack them. But One, Rashieal, stays behind and lives with the Terrans. after he grows up, the Protoss/Terran hybrid is born. He is amazed at this, because it was a Dark Marlar. Kerrigan finds out at the same time that Duran has secretly been slipping out of the Zerg control and sniping off their food supplies. Kerrigan owns him, and then sends the Zerg's To Shakuras, and finds that Duran was hiding Zerg/Terran hybrids, one of which was a very effective Zerg Hygoon. Then the war Begins

I never studied these things, but what about having Invested Kerrigan finishing off Jim Raynor after some conversation, and then having Zeratul appear and slay her? I mean it's quite symbolic; 'The betrayer may win a battle, but never the war'.

What the hell are you talking about? (To both Darktossgen and Centreri)

They're attempting to help on the story.

I'll edit this after I read my manuals and everything on Wikipedia with the story of SC

Sorry, that was a little harsh toward Centreri.

Anyway, I'm thinking that Raynor would be maybe headed for Earth as a warning signal for them against the Zerg. He couldn't be allied with Mengsk because noone has heard from him (Raynor) and it is plainly stated. What else could he do that he would think useful in the war against Kerrigan without interacting with the other heroes?

And how about Zeratul? Maybe he's off killing as many Hybrids as he can before they wake up. Maybe he's found a way to cleanse whole planets of them. Maybe he's looking for a weakness. The thing about Zeratul is that he is the only one apart from Duran that knows about the Hybrids.

Jim Raynor is going to kill Kerrigan because Jim Raynor said he'd kill her, not Zeratul.

My story

After the brood war, the UED's fleet and the Protoss Conclave left decimated, and the Dominion being reconstructed.

Zerg :: Being the Queen of Blades, you order an young cerebrate to weed out remaining Protoss outposts through out the war, however she orders strictly to find Duran. The cerebrate ( Player's Role ) immediately follows her command and sets out on a mission to find Duran, and destroying remaining UED forces through out the planets. ( connect to alexei )

Protoss :: Zeratul and Artanis reunites and travels space and redocks on Shakuras, the world of Dark Templars. Once Zeratul weeds out the remaining Zerg outposts and bases on Shakuras, he then sets course to Aiur. Once he is in Aiur, he weeds the Zergs out also. When he does, he then meets up with Taldurin, the oldest Dragoon ever. Artanis, Taldurin, and Zeratul incidently meets up with "Infested Stukov", and apparently Stukov was not killed by a single gunshot, and was infested by Zerg. However, before they fought with Stukov, they already had known he was alive and formed a "nanoserum" which could cure his infestation. They did think that it was awkward that they weren't ordered to kill him. When Alexei had been purified he noticed that he was losing control of his brood. Stukov wasn't too happy but agreed to leave with them. After the rescue, they start rescuing surviving Protoss and Terran through out the game, and incidently they rescue Jim Raynor also.

Terran :: With the recollected troops, Alexei improvises an idea that they contact the UED fleet to get a larger human fleet. This idea however is rejected at first. The recollected troops of Protoss and the Human fleet struck on the heart of the Zerg, however they failed. This time, though the idea of contacting UED fleet was now brought back, (to be continued)

A little short, but it fits. Though you'd have to have Zeratul do something on his own before meeting Artanis again. You also used the story from the "Resurrection" mission from N64, which has already taken place.

Ok I'll do my best to split up my idea of the story in sections, just so we can get an overview We can try mixing it up and putting all the characters after this rough rough rough draft.

Zerg Mission:

Mission 1 (After the Tutorials and Such): Remaining Ashes

You play as Kerrigan and her broods. She is on one of the remainder planets that have not been taken over by the Zerg completely yet. In the breifing Duran and Kerrigan are present, Kerrigan gives you orders to wipe out the remainder Protoss on the plannet. After Kerrigan leaves the breifing room to attain to business Duran speaks to you and asks that you capture 10 Dark Templars (Just kill them Unless you have some cool system) and 10 dragoons for reasons he can't discuss (It's not revealed to the player for the Hybrids, and the Goons and DTs will be preplaced in an area you HAVE to pass in order to destroy the base of the Protoss, to avoid killing them too quickly). During the mission nothing else happens, after caputing the units and destorying the base the mission is over.

Mission 2: Disturbance

You're summoned by Kerrigan again, this time for investigating a large amount of eletrical energy on a vancant area of a planet. Duran is not present for this mission. Whent he mission starts it'll be one of those "No Building" mission, like anything in Installation Terrain, or Shipyards mission. You're giving some units and kerrigan herself, you travel through whatever terrain you decide finding other broods to join you when you eventually reach a squad of Terran Marines. Kerrigan makes the comment "What would the Terrans be doing here?". After fighting through other squads of Firebats, Marines, Ghosts, etc. Duran comes on the Com. with a message "Kerrigan, there has been an attack in our central base by the Protoss" in which Kerrigan replies "Damnit! How did this happen?!" Duran: "They were under containment since we beleive they hold information of remaining Protoss Bases. However they broke out and started releasing other prisoners" Kerrigan annoyed answers the problem "How could this happen?... Cerebrate investigate the Electrical Energy site, I will respond to this threat."

Aftewards kerrigan leaves in an overlord, while Duran comes in with another one. Duran now helps you out through the rest of the mission. After a lot more squads and situations with units like Tanks or Golaiths, you come to a base who's under control of Jim Raynor. You confront Raynor by simply entering the base, which is vancant of patrols or any units, of course text starts:
Raynor: Damnit! The Zerg have found us, well they won't be here long
Duran: Mr.Raynor, I've heard about you from the queen, what are you doing out here
Raynor: That's none of your buisness Duran.
(You are then surronded by Marines, Tanks, Firebats, Dark Templar, and Other protoss units)
Duran: Hmmm, it appears we might have a problem
Zeratul: Hmf
Duran: Quiet the crowd we have here. Zeratul, AND Captain Raynor? What could we being doing here
Raynor: Enough Duran. Waste them boys, but leave the defect alive.
(Afterwards a battle starts with your units verus the other units, the battle doesn't actually end, because "Victory" goes across the screen seconds afterwards.

Mission 3: Break Out

You are back in the breifing room with kerrigan. Kerrigan explains that Duran made a hole in there ambush for you to escape, but in the process was captured by Raynor and Zeratul. The objective for this mission is to get Duran back. You are dropped off in a space platform area with a base that's moderately pass the beginner level of buildings and units. You're suppose to attack the Protoss base where Duran is and free him. Nothing speical happens in the mission, Zeratul or Raynor are not protecting the base.

Mission 4: Alliances

You are breifed by Kerrigan. She speaks of a suspsion that Duran will betray her. The mission takes place on another Plannet with Protoss, Zerg, and Terran all fighting for control. As you make your way towards the base on the other side (In the way is Protoss and Terran) you find out that Dark Templar, Marines, AND Zerglins are all waiting at an area and they all attack together. Kerrigan's supscison rises: "Terran and Protoss fighting together is no surprise, but what are Duran's brood helping them for?! Perhaps my investigation is too late, we must hurry". After destroying the Terran and Protoss bases you find Duran and a bunch of Statis Cells. Duran starts the covnersation first.
Duran: Ha ha ha, I knew I couldn't trust those characters
Kerrigan: Duran! What is the meaning of this treason
Duran: Treason? I can not commit an act of Treason to someone I was never alligned with
Kerrigan: Explain yourself Duran, my paitence weakens
Duran: This is beyond you Kerrigan, I suggest heading back and getting ready
Kerrigan: Your threats are meaningless, you are here defenseless and dare mock my strenght?
Duran: Oh I am sure if I was actually here you would be quick to kill me. Until next time, Kerrigan.
(At this moment Duran disappears as it's revealed he was a Hallucnation)
Kerrigan: Damnit. Duran is offically an enemy of the swarm. Now get to work cerebrate, destory these cells, then report back.

After destroying the cells the mission is over.

That's all I have for now I'll be sure to post more later, how do you like it so far?

Your "Talk" lines are not okay fisty. it doesn't fit with "Duran and kerrigan" and all others lines.

they don't act that wierd you know.

and kerrigan doesn't say "damnit".

i wish BW players could play Ressurection.

It's really looking cool so far...

There are a couple of things, though.

- Lithium is not right about the way the characters talk. It's good (for the most part)
- Stukov needs to be mentioned somehow.
- A major flaw in your story: Zeratul most likely would not side with Duran. Not even against Kerrigan (well, maybe, but) because of the way he reacted when he saw the Hybrids. He just wouldn't support it. And like I said: The Protoss will be attacked by the Hybrids, too. Maybe even the Terrans, if they got in the way.
- Mission 3 is too simple. It should have crazy AI, and have both Terran and Protoss guarding him (like a plan to weaken Kerrigan even more while she tries to get Duran back).

And also, I'm not asking you to create an entire campaign in the detail you're doing it. That's my job. I'm just looking for people's opinions.

Your suggestion was greatly appreciated, it's a good thing you gave an example on what they WOULD say.


They don't talk werid either, it's not like I made them say:
"OH NOES THA BCZ WER PAWNED BY MY GERDIANZ"
You didn't even point out what was so werid about it, except Kerrigan not saying Damnit, which I'm very sure she said at least twice in the campagin.

I'm not going to buy the Starcraft 64 just to help on a mod :/. Though it's odd how Blizzard never made a patch that downloaded the game into the content. Or maybe, because it was fan art it's not offically made by them.

And please don't call me fisty ever again...


At the time I had a really good explaination on why he would do that. But I completely forgot what it was. I'll get back to you on that...


That's why it's a rough draft. And since it is your job you can think of better dialouge if it's so "odd"
Also in that thing you posted. Stukov was cured, so wouldn't he be mentioned in the Terran Missions first, since it isn't really a concern to kerrigan and Duran.

Golden, I love how you got those campaigns, it sounds perfect. Actually those conversations really did sound like Kerrigen and Duran. Along with all the characters too. I wanna hear more of it

Oh, but he will be a concern to them...

Mission 5: (don't have a name yet)

The briefing starts with Kerrigan and a Cerebrate discussing how much of a threat the new alliance will be, and what Duran meant by "getting ready." Kerrigan is a little bothered by that phrase, but her oldest and most trusted Cerebrate, Mangoul, is convinced that it didn't have any signifigance, and that Kerrigan should gather her full force and attack their base. But as they begin to argue heatedly, another Cerebrate appears and reports that a small band of Protoss and Terran troops has teleported somewhere nearby on the planet with an arbiter, and are defending themselves against his brood and demanding to talk to her (telepathically, through who he isn't sure). Anyway, Kerrigan would drop the conversation and decide to go and see what Duran wants this time.

You'd discover that they had established a rather large base, but are slowly being overcome. When you get there, you are given a large force and gain control of the other Cerebrates brood, and are ordered to reduce the base to a Command Center, but to make sure that was all that was left(or something, I don't know).

Anyway, once you accomplish that goal, the camera will focus on the command center, and Duran and Stukov will appear.

Kerrigan: Well, well, look who we have here. Tell me, Duran. What would you hope to accomplish by storming in here and throwing your life away? You know I'm going to kill you after you've made whatever petty thread you had in mind.
Duran: Petty threat? Oh, no, my young Queen. That is where you are gravely mistaken.
Stukov: Surely you did not think that we were foolhardy enough to expect to survive with the force that you have already destroyed?
Kerrigan: Admiral Stukov?! I was wondering what happened to you! So, you've decided to join the fools in their valiant crusade against my might...well if it is no mere threat, why are you here.
*Raynor appears*
Raynor: Didn't I tell ya babe? I'm the man who's going to kill you someday. By any means necessary, I will see you dead.
Kerrigan: What mockery is this? You have yet to reveal your great--
Mangoul: My Queen! Our primary hive cluster is under attack! I've never seen anything like them! These creatures possess incredible power!
*The camera zooms back to your base, and you see the Hybrids tearing it apart*
Kerrigan: ...
*An overlord picks her up and carries her away, Raynor shoots it once*
Duran: Gentlemen, our work is done for the time being. Let us sit back and enjoy the sh--
*Stukov shoots Duran in the back*
Stukov: Let that be a lesson to you: Anyone who farks with me the way you did will be repayed. And anyone who farks with the Zerg swarm will be destroyed! (Don't worry, I know that's very crude, and I will fix it)
*Stukov cloaks and is gone*
Raynor: Wh-what?! No! That son-of-a-biznatch!
Duran: Rrr...run! I can...not...control them!
*Duran dies and the mission ends*

Whatcha think?

wierdo. thats the worst line i've ever seen. =/ stukov isnt infested. and duran isn't going to sit and talk like that. and jim raynor definately don't sit and talk, he'll get angry and stuff.

I'm aware that Stukov isn't infested. I'll explain about that later. I'll also make Raynor more angry, because I know what you mean.

I think it's really random. Three people die in one mission? All so easily as well.