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Im thinking of making a Counter-Strike rpg map. It will have different options to choose, like campaign, multiplayer, and difficulty. I havnt really thought of the story line but maybe i could get some ideas from fellow members of SEN? Like what kind of missions. Hostage situation? Bomb defusal? Recon? Ect. Im trying to make the map like VERY VERY Long. So i will need more than 10 missions playable. And for the weapons. Like any Counter-Strike games (If you played them)you have to earn your money to buy new weapons. Im thinking on putting, m4a1, p228, scout, awp, five-seven, aug, deagle, knife, m3, mp5-navy, glock, and usp. Im thinking of also putting gernades in but i unno how to configure the how the gernades work. I will keep this topic updated on new stuff i added and opinons. So hows my map sound?

Lol, a counterstrike rpg? i would understand arena and sniper but rpg? that's a lil odd, goodluck tho.

you know. like condition zero. btw if u dont know what condition zero is. its basicly counter-strike but its in a single player style. like missions. ima try to make my map like that. including all that other stuff.

i have condition zero and css and 1.6

Hey this sounds like a good idea!

So, this is a campaign and an RPG at the same time? Cool! I'm sure you already know, but balancing a campaign against a computer campaign is alot of hard work!

How long is "very long"? The reason I ask, is that from my experience, players usually won't play a map for more than about 30-40 Minutes. However, if you can create this map with an element that keeps the player continuosly interested throughout a long length of time, then congractulations!

You're definately on the right tracks with your ideas, "The hostage situation", "The Bomb defusal" (you could create some cool effects there). I haven't played CounterStrike before, but I'll give you a list of my ideas:

1. Armoured Car Escape! (Refers to recue hostages mission)
2. Use Radio (Doodad) to request reinforcements.
3. Steal the enemies Data Files.
4. Clear the Bunkers (Grenades and explosives)
5. Salary system?
6. Auto dropship reinforcements.
7. Computer ally?
8. Crossing the minefield.
9. Capture the enemie's leader.
10. Bank account?
11. Run past the guards in between doodads without getting noticed (Like Metal Gear Solid) to retrieve special item.

About the grenades. In my new map "Call Of Duty", I had to work out a concept for grenades, that was automatic (because it saves messing around with physical Switches), and also realistic effects. The way I have done it, is as follows:

1. Create a Location, called "Follow 1", roughly 10x10 (size of location refers to grenade throwing range)

2. Set up a trigger, so that "Follow 1" will follow your attacking unit.

3. Set up another trigger, so that when the Computer player brings a unit to "Follow 1", your Grenade trigger (which I haven't explained yet) will execute.

4. Grenade trigger: This is obviously something you may want to play with. The way I did it, was to create a vespene tank at an enemy unit in location "Follow 1", and then kill it (Creating an explosion). At the same time, it plays a WAV file and displays TEXT so that the player is aware that they have just thrown a grenade.

5. Set up a counter system (Sorry to state the obvious here)
I used "Razings Score", but since this is a campaign, you may have a different approach.

Deku, I think any map made by you sounds good! I hope I was of a little help!

thanks alot for the ideas, sounds good too about the gernade trigger. its gonna take a while before i can come up with some pictures or demos though. btw thx again

[sub]I think just having it be single player w/ bots or multiplayer would be fun. Make a 256x256 map and fill it with as many maps as you can. Sounds like a fun map to play, I can't wait to see your progress with it.[/sub]

hmmm bots... Sounds good to me. But thats gonna be an extra 2-10 days for the AI. Or maybe i can just use junk yard dog... but it seems like lazy work if i do that.

If you just use junkyard dog I'd be very disappointed in this map.

Hope everything is goin well Deku!

Referring to the previous comment, he's got a point. It sounds like you have alot of faith in this map. If you are going to spend alot of time into, you may as well try and get every little detail to perfection, otherwise its almost a wasted effort. I always just invent an alternative way of doing something. Theres always an alternative way.

Easy enought AI the bot, Just have it like so when a " Unit " reaches a location a randomized switch is running and will randomize his orders so he doesnt do same old thing, like say he goes from Starting point to bomb site, when unit gets to bomb site he maybe order to defend, plant bomb (if has it) or go to another random place, or kill himself lol w/e suits user. =)

Can also randomize spawn of units per go of that level so isnt alway same weapon. I would say player would start out pistol first go and work way up to better weapons. But mah.

XMercury, nice ideas.

Deku, hmm good luck with this..

Is sides selectedable? Like to be Counter Terrorist or to be Terrorists?

If so i may have few ideas for terrorists..

Terrorist could do these things i guess..

1. Setup booby traps for counter terrorists at entry points
2. Hack the security cameras to monitor for counter-terrorists movements
3. Setup barricades to slow down CT
4. Use hostage as a bodyshield

All can think of right now so mah..

\\Moogle

Thanks Moogle. (I like yours better!)

How is it going Deku? Any more progress? Sorry if this is too early to ask, but I usually complete my maps in 2-3 days!

Well um i just started on the map. its gonna take awhile since i do spend lots of time on map making. but i spend lots of effort on it though. ill keep you all updated on whats happing with the map. I like the ideas. keep em coming. Ima write them all down so i wont lose em. kthxcyalaterbye.

I like how the map sounds, lots of good feedback too good luck

sorry I dont have much to offer I dont really play RPG's!

Thank you.



Very well i guess can give you more ideas as come =)

Counter-Terrorist could do..

1. Disable Cameras in complex
2. Disable any booby traps around, but have 25% chance failure
3. Disable get away car
4. Setup comcenter inside complex
5. Save 3 of 5 hostages
6. Disable Bomb site
7. Kill 3 Terrorists get a cash bonus
8. Destory Barricades (must have a generade)

Terrorists...

1. Destory Comcenter, when its up and running
2. Destory CT car outside of complex
3. Kill 3 Counter terrorist get a cash bonus
4. Kill 5 Counter Terrorist with a knife to unlock something
5. Kill 5 hostages alive in a room w/o one being saved by CT

uh all can think of for now but i may come back later and give you more..

\\Moogle

wow moogle. your full of ideas... kudos! and some nice ideas too. keep em coming! thx

Are you still going ahead with this map? Because if your not, then would you mind if I take over?

That's why there not good lol. Anyways no screenshots still? cmon deku you can do better! haha

F*** you Kupo.

At least i have ideas unlike you.

sry about the no updates yet. when i get pictures i want them to look insane!!! and btw i been working hard on tse2 so my hands are tied up with other maps i have to make.

Please don't flame, and if you call a doodad a radio you don't have idea's.

It's really hard to take a game that was specificaly made for multiplayer shootout missions and or hostage rescues and turning it into a various-storyline. I suggest go along under the lines of a Rainbow Six theme of tasks that must be accomplished to complete the map. (for campaign mode that is)