Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2006-04-05 at 16:10:39
I'm restarting this project now that Memcalc has been updated.
It was the lack of memcalc update which caused the two month hiatus.
The origanal topic for mutalisk maddness is here.
I wanted to make a maddness map without all the clutter. I wanted to show the world that advanced SEN maps with fancy features could be made easy to use and bnet popular.
I wanted to show how 1337 I was and use EUD conditions a bunch
So I set out to create mutalisk maddness.
I was sucessful in demonstrating smooth and pratical implementation of EUD conditions, but unsucessful at creating a map.
The reason was because I had no idea how to even begin to go about balencing the special units.
I need help with this. I'm not asking anyone here to do any triggers. I just want ideas for special units and special abilities along with the specific stats for the units.
Added, april something: The stats for mutalisks are the defult SCBW mutalisk stats.
Not all the special units can be fancy. All the wraith needs to be able to do is shoot missiles (maybe cloak as well).
I am willing to implement any ability involving complex triggers or EUD conditions though.
Current progress:
1. Updating EUD offsets (havn't started)
2. Hero buying system (already in place)
3. Basic triggering [winning, loosing etc.] (already in place, needs tweaking)
[progress]5[/progress]
?
It was the lack of memcalc update which caused the two month hiatus.
The origanal topic for mutalisk maddness is here.
I wanted to make a maddness map without all the clutter. I wanted to show the world that advanced SEN maps with fancy features could be made easy to use and bnet popular.
I wanted to show how 1337 I was and use EUD conditions a bunch
So I set out to create mutalisk maddness.
I was sucessful in demonstrating smooth and pratical implementation of EUD conditions, but unsucessful at creating a map.
The reason was because I had no idea how to even begin to go about balencing the special units.
I need help with this. I'm not asking anyone here to do any triggers. I just want ideas for special units and special abilities along with the specific stats for the units.
Added, april something: The stats for mutalisks are the defult SCBW mutalisk stats.
Not all the special units can be fancy. All the wraith needs to be able to do is shoot missiles (maybe cloak as well).
I am willing to implement any ability involving complex triggers or EUD conditions though.
QUOTE(m.r.bob @ Oct 5 2005, 06:07 PM)
I started this a while ago because I wanted to see if it was possible to make a map featuring EUD conditions that could actually be playable on Bnet.
Green = Completed.
Orange = Currently working on.
Blue = Upcoming / Proposed and accepted.
Red = Proposed and denied.
Features:
As you might have noticed, this map is unprotected. That is because I intend to get it into the DLDB as a concept map (because you people disdain madness maps), and because I want to see if this map can spread on battle.net.
Don't try to pull a Puni.
How to play:
Build a Zealot to start massing.
Build a Zealot again to stop massing.
To change your massing location select your gateway, and right click (set rally point) on the place you want to mass. Legitimate massing locations are:
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Green = Completed.
Orange = Currently working on.
Blue = Upcoming / Proposed and accepted.
Red = Proposed and denied.
Features:
- A massing system utilizing detection of rally points. The future of massing systems!
- Non stop action!
- Good triggering.
- A dynamic help system, and a flashy helpful intro.
- Balanced heroes, that you buy by making Goons, HTs and DTs at your portal.
- Heroes featuring EUD conditions, such as a heal gateway hero that heals your gateway depending on the amount of health and shield it has left.
- A banning system where only players named m.r.bob or Doodle77 can ban people
As you might have noticed, this map is unprotected. That is because I intend to get it into the DLDB as a concept map (because you people disdain madness maps), and because I want to see if this map can spread on battle.net.
Don't try to pull a Puni.
How to play:
Build a Zealot to start massing.
Build a Zealot again to stop massing.
To change your massing location select your gateway, and right click (set rally point) on the place you want to mass. Legitimate massing locations are:
- The clump of buildings at the center.
- Any other player's gateway.
- The data disk in the center (which will mass to your observer).
[center]Please suggest specific ideas for heroes that you would like to see included.
QUOTE
Hero ideas:
Blue = Accpeted.
Red = Denied.
Blue = Accpeted.
Red = Denied.
- A Hydralisk with suicidal explosion powers when killed. NEEDS STATS!
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Current progress:
1. Updating EUD offsets (havn't started)
2. Hero buying system (already in place)
3. Basic triggering [winning, loosing etc.] (already in place, needs tweaking)
[progress]5[/progress]
?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-04-05 at 16:16:48
Sounds pretty cool. I don't believe that you can make a madness map without all that clutter.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2006-04-05 at 21:19:54
I found out a way.
That is why I'm actually working on a maddness map.
A cultterless maddness map. It's REVOLUTIONARY!
That is why I'm actually working on a maddness map.
A cultterless maddness map. It's REVOLUTIONARY!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by AgenT_Nick on 2006-04-06 at 08:01:02
arnt all the EUD's scrambled? ive heard noone found any yet...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2006-04-06 at 08:32:01
That's the reason for:
"1. Updating EUD offsets (havn't started)"
They're scrambled but not broke. It looks like I'm going to be spending quality time with ArtMoney soon.
"1. Updating EUD offsets (havn't started)"
They're scrambled but not broke. It looks like I'm going to be spending quality time with ArtMoney soon.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by slayer766 on 2006-04-06 at 11:43:06
QUOTE(m.r.bob @ Apr 5 2006, 08:19 PM)
It's REVOLUTIONARY!
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YES!!!! BOUT TIME!!!!
hahaha, I have seen this in the Concepts forum before bob, and sounds like you can pull this off man.
Best of luck to you on this mate.Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2006-04-07 at 22:24:47
I really need someone willing to make a flashy text intro.
It must contain the instructions.
I'll start work on the map tommorow.
WHY HAVN'T YOU BEEN CLAIMING HEROS!
Ok, here's the deal. I'll name the hero the person makes after that person.
Comeon, you know you've always wanted your name in a map.
It must contain the instructions.
I'll start work on the map tommorow.
WHY HAVN'T YOU BEEN CLAIMING HEROS!
Ok, here's the deal. I'll name the hero the person makes after that person.
Comeon, you know you've always wanted your name in a map.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)Excalibur on 2006-04-07 at 22:45:51
Legacy teh Lurker!!! OMG!!!
-Legacy
-Legacy
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2006-04-08 at 20:06:22
OMG LEGACY!
Status update:
gate 88 is a REALLY addictive game.
Damn, I havn't gotten map or homework done.
No seriously, this game is addictive as hell.
Look on the bright side, I don't own WOW.
Status update:
gate 88 is a REALLY addictive game.
Damn, I havn't gotten map or homework done.
No seriously, this game is addictive as hell.
Look on the bright side, I don't own WOW.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-04-10 at 16:10:02
Might I be dumbducky the mutalisk?
If not, I'll settle for dumbducky the marine (jimmy or regular, I don't care).
If not, I'll settle for dumbducky the marine (jimmy or regular, I don't care).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2006-04-10 at 16:17:08
Ok, you get the mutalisk.
From the shoutbox: Did I mention that you had to balence the stats of the unit yourself. You don't have to do it now, but I need specific stats sometime down the road.
What this means is that you get to chose how much hp, attack, armor etc. your mutalisk has, but it can't be wildly unbalenced. Try to make it a bit balenced, but I'll do the fine tuning once I get around to playtesting.
From the shoutbox: Did I mention that you had to balence the stats of the unit yourself. You don't have to do it now, but I need specific stats sometime down the road.
What this means is that you get to chose how much hp, attack, armor etc. your mutalisk has, but it can't be wildly unbalenced. Try to make it a bit balenced, but I'll do the fine tuning once I get around to playtesting.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Quickdraw90 on 2006-04-10 at 16:20:29
oh dude.. i gotta get me into this..
Quickdraw90 the Infested Terran
oh.. um stats?... umm....
depending on other units hp Dmg = 100, 200, or 300 i guess
hp = 20 more then the dmg they do.. so splash doesnt kill them all...
armour... hmm.. lets go with a 3.5
(alright... if it must just a 3)
Quickdraw90 the Infested Terran
oh.. um stats?... umm....
depending on other units hp Dmg = 100, 200, or 300 i guess
hp = 20 more then the dmg they do.. so splash doesnt kill them all...
armour... hmm.. lets go with a 3.5
(alright... if it must just a 3)Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2006-04-10 at 16:26:52
I forgot to say.
The stats for mutalisks is the defult SC mutalisk stats.
The stats for mutalisks is the defult SC mutalisk stats.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-04-10 at 16:36:40
Disregard the old post, I typed it, tabbed to another window, and posted it 5 minutes later but didn't bother to refresh page.
Stats-2 x regular mustalisk stats
Stats-2 x regular mustalisk stats
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2006-04-10 at 16:42:48
When I first read this topic, I was like, “OMFG NOT ANOTHER MADDNESS MAP!” but now that I see that you plan to make it an advanced map, I won’t say anything. It’s about time someone made an advance madness map, seeing that I played them for a bit but got sick of all the rigging and all that crap. Don’t forget to protect it 
. Also don’t rig it or I’ll eat your first born.
. Also don’t rig it or I’ll eat your first born.Report, edit, etc...Posted by Quickdraw90 on 2006-04-10 at 16:50:32
alright... if you think infested terran is useless...
just make its stats like.. 100 hp ... 20 armour.. and 250 dmg..
and make it so... its a defence from camping heros.....
like if it goes too far its like teleported back to your base
(umm... im noticing something... if this will take too much of your time and w/e... just let me be a corsair or sumthing)
just make its stats like.. 100 hp ... 20 armour.. and 250 dmg..
and make it so... its a defence from camping heros.....
like if it goes too far its like teleported back to your base
(umm... im noticing something... if this will take too much of your time and w/e... just let me be a corsair or sumthing)Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2006-04-10 at 16:52:44
YAY the topic is taking off.
Damn, before I do any of these things i need to unscramble the EUDs.
Stupid history paper. I don't know when I'll have a chance to work on it, but progress will be made during NYC spring break (next weekish).
Damn, before I do any of these things i need to unscramble the EUDs.
Stupid history paper. I don't know when I'll have a chance to work on it, but progress will be made during NYC spring break (next weekish).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Urmom(U) on 2006-04-10 at 17:10:11
This isn't the first advanced massing map. There was rEvolution Beta. But I don't see the point of unscrambling the EUD conditions, they will be scrambled next patch I thought.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2006-04-11 at 09:03:33
Please link to that map.
Seriously I really want to check it out.
The EUDs will not be scrambled next patch, a whole bunch of patches happened before they got scrambled. The patch where they got scrambled was the first patch that did that. If you try 1.07 SCBW you will see that EUDs still work.
Seriously I really want to check it out.
The EUDs will not be scrambled next patch, a whole bunch of patches happened before they got scrambled. The patch where they got scrambled was the first patch that did that. If you try 1.07 SCBW you will see that EUDs still work.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Urmom(U) on 2006-04-11 at 19:22:59
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopi...8&hl=revolution
That's the map. But I thought that every patch from now on would pretty much scramble to EUD's up like the last patch did.
That's the map. But I thought that every patch from now on would pretty much scramble to EUD's up like the last patch did.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kupo on 2006-04-11 at 21:25:58
Mmm, sound's like fun, goodluck finding the EUD's.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2006-04-12 at 20:26:32
The EUDs should be done by the end of today.
They're not really that hard to do actually. Or at least they weren't last I checked.
They're not really that hard to do actually. Or at least they weren't last I checked.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-04-12 at 20:55:11
Looking at the shoutbox, it looks like your having some trouble with memcalc.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2006-04-12 at 21:22:47
They weren't done, but it's all good.
They'll be done by tommorow.
They'll be done by tommorow.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kupo on 2006-04-12 at 22:49:55
QUOTE(m.r.bob @ Apr 12 2006, 05:22 PM)
They weren't done, but it's all good.
They'll be done by tommorow.
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They'll be done by tommorow.
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They better be
Anyways, hows the map going?