Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wilhelm on 2006-04-30 at 22:47:04
If you're going to rate terrain, post some reasons for a bad rating, so the newcomer can improve their terrain. This is not a popularity contest. I'm tired of seeing people throw out 1/10's and 2/10's without explaination, or even comments, just a low score. Don't give me any bull on this, if you can't think of what is wrong with a piece, why the hell are you rating it low? I know this doesn't apply to everyone, and I respect anyone with the decency to give suggestions, but just because you feel yourself a self-stylized "terrain wizard" doesn't mean you get to be an ass.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Toothfariy on 2006-04-30 at 22:49:56
you should pin this
Report, edit, etc...Posted by WoodenFire on 2006-04-30 at 22:54:55
I oddly enough back this post 103 percent!
...86% (Its going down!?!?!)
...86% (Its going down!?!?!)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by A_of_s_t on 2006-05-01 at 00:35:29
THAT POST SUCKS< 2/10 !!111!!11
J/k, Wilhem, I tottally agree, and it is odd that you, Woodenfire, agree. I have an odd feeling this was inderictly talking about you.
J/k, Wilhem, I tottally agree, and it is odd that you, Woodenfire, agree. I have an odd feeling this was inderictly talking about you.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lyon on 2006-05-01 at 02:02:39
agreed. IF i rate it bad i at least give a reason
[progress]100[/progress] Behind this post!
[progress]100[/progress] Behind this post!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by WoodenFire on 2006-05-01 at 06:48:44
The main reason Wilhelm posted this, is for attention... That is more clear then the point he is trying to convey.
If you can't take the heat (even from people bashing your terrain & defending it yourself) then just don't post your terrain...
I have yet to see anything really good posted except for some very old stuff by Rantent and rare terrain from some other map makers... I purely grade on what I have seen.
Actually... if your post does just say... "Rate me." I think that you have the right to just leave a rating... If you were KIND enough to put suggestions or WHY you gave the rating, thats all goodie 2 shoes and kudos to that nice citizen of SEN...
I fully support everyones current rating system as well as to 'encourage' more people to type a little more then then usually do for the reasons relating to their posted rates!
A great example of someone who is good at taking some heat is A of S T... I have posted some mean comments in some of his threads cause of blockiness and whatnot... at least I don't get flammed to holy hell like if I said something in Wilhelm's thread and ticked a person off...
If you can't take the heat (even from people bashing your terrain & defending it yourself) then just don't post your terrain...
I have yet to see anything really good posted except for some very old stuff by Rantent and rare terrain from some other map makers... I purely grade on what I have seen.
Actually... if your post does just say... "Rate me." I think that you have the right to just leave a rating... If you were KIND enough to put suggestions or WHY you gave the rating, thats all goodie 2 shoes and kudos to that nice citizen of SEN...
I fully support everyones current rating system as well as to 'encourage' more people to type a little more then then usually do for the reasons relating to their posted rates!
A great example of someone who is good at taking some heat is A of S T... I have posted some mean comments in some of his threads cause of blockiness and whatnot... at least I don't get flammed to holy hell like if I said something in Wilhelm's thread and ticked a person off...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)Excalibur on 2006-05-01 at 07:00:39
QUOTE(WoodenFire @ May 1 2006, 05:48 AM)
The main reason Wilhelm posted this, is for attention... That is more clear then the point he is trying to convey.
No, i believe Wilhelm is trying to fix some of the damage youve done to those just starting out WoodenFire. Maybe you dont notice it but you ARE a little harsh. [/Understatement]
QUOTE(WoodenFire @ May 1 2006, 05:48 AM)
If you can't take the heat (even from people bashing your terrain & defending it yourself) then just don't post your terrain...
Top reason why i dont post my terrain:
W****nF**e (Name with held to protect the.....*************)
QUOTE(WoodenFire @ May 1 2006, 05:48 AM)
I have yet to see anything really good posted except for some very old stuff by Rantent and rare terrain from some other map makers... I purely grade on what I have seen.
Actually... if your post does just say... "Rate me." I think that you have the right to just leave a rating... If you were KIND enough to put suggestions or WHY you gave the rating, thats all goodie 2 shoes and kudos to that nice citizen of SEN...
Actually... if your post does just say... "Rate me." I think that you have the right to just leave a rating... If you were KIND enough to put suggestions or WHY you gave the rating, thats all goodie 2 shoes and kudos to that nice citizen of SEN...
A. Maybe if the n00bs didnt post more then one thing because of your way of convaying what you consider help we would have some more experianced people.
B. Yea Wooden, claim your 'nice' and 'kind', everyones gonna believe you. [/Sarcasm]
QUOTE(WoodenFire @ May 1 2006, 05:48 AM)
I fully support everyones current rating system as well as to 'encourage' more people to type a little more then then usually do for the reasons relating to their posted rates!
A great example of someone who is good at taking some heat is A of S T... I have posted some mean comments in some of his threads cause of blockiness and whatnot... at least I don't get flammed to holy hell like if I said something in Wilhelm's thread and ticked a person off...
A great example of someone who is good at taking some heat is A of S T... I have posted some mean comments in some of his threads cause of blockiness and whatnot... at least I don't get flammed to holy hell like if I said something in Wilhelm's thread and ticked a person off...
Once again wooden, you 'encourage' so well. [/Sarcasm]
I admit A of ST should drop it. My little rant here is purely just because i havent had you sicked on my terrain yet.
QUOTE(WoodenFire @ May 1 2006, 05:48 AM)
You need to stop your [I]Power Trip[/] perhaps?
You first.
-Legacy
ADDITION:
( oops gotta contribute too.
)QUOTE(Wilhelm @ Apr 30 2006, 09:46 PM)
I'm tired of seeing people throw out 1/10's and 2/10's without explaination, or even comments, just a low score. Don't give me any bull on this, if you can't think of what is wrong with a piece, why the hell are you rating it low? I know this doesn't apply to everyone, and I respect anyone with the decency to give suggestions, but just because you feel yourself a self-stylized "terrain wizard" doesn't mean you get to be an ass.
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I wish i had more signature room to put this in there Wilhelm. Keep up the good work.
-Legacy
Report, edit, etc...Posted by WoodenFire on 2006-05-01 at 07:02:27
Hmm?
You act like I am the pillar of the Terrain forums and then It all depends wether I post about someones terrain or not...
I don't really see any validity in your post..?
You act like I am the pillar of the Terrain forums and then It all depends wether I post about someones terrain or not...
I don't really see any validity in your post..?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)Excalibur on 2006-05-01 at 07:04:25
QUOTE(WoodenFire @ May 1 2006, 06:02 AM)
Hmm?
You act like I am the pillar of the Terrain forums and then It all depends wether I post about someones terrain or not...
I don't really see any validity in your post..?
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You act like I am the pillar of the Terrain forums and then It all depends wether I post about someones terrain or not...
I don't really see any validity in your post..?
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Hmmm lets see:
Just how many posts have you put here?
How many topics on newb terrain have you replyed to?
How many of all those did you give above a 4? [/Sarcasm]
Dude you are very good with terrain ill admit, and although it doesnt make up for your attitude, alot of people think highly of what you say. Those people are purely retarded or havent been here long.
ADD:
By the way, most of the time one negative opinion can make some one very upset on a first try. With little kids you tell them their little scribbles are beautiful art, but its just so you dont ruin their confidence.
-Legacy
Report, edit, etc...Posted by WoodenFire on 2006-05-01 at 07:07:30
Good closing son...
I back my criticism with knowledge and experience, unlike many of the other "woodenfire-lookalikes" who post similarly low NuMbAz.
I back my criticism with knowledge and experience, unlike many of the other "woodenfire-lookalikes" who post similarly low NuMbAz.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by glytchur on 2006-05-01 at 07:19:58
ya... im pretty much outa terrain and all by now if you guys havent noticed, this is one reason why, because now theres only 3 or 4 terrain pros, and nobody else seems to be getting up there...
i might post a lazer tag style map or something but for now, i plan on making maps for hl2 and css...
and this thread has seemed to turn into a flame war...
i might post a lazer tag style map or something but for now, i plan on making maps for hl2 and css...
and this thread has seemed to turn into a flame war...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by WoodenFire on 2006-05-01 at 07:26:34
Glytchur... no! we must have your CLIFFs and methodical terrain testing >< 
Rantent never posts terrain cause hes kinda busy I think... Oo
Rantent never posts terrain cause hes kinda busy I think... Oo
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Toothfariy on 2006-05-01 at 16:14:52
QUOTE(WoodenFire @ May 1 2006, 04:48 AM)
The main reason Wilhelm posted this, is for attention... That is more clear then the point he is trying to convey.
If you can't take the heat (even from people bashing your terrain & defending it yourself) then just don't post your terrain...
I have yet to see anything really good posted except for some very old stuff by Rantent and rare terrain from some other map makers... I purely grade on what I have seen.
Actually... if your post does just say... "Rate me." I think that you have the right to just leave a rating... If you were KIND enough to put suggestions or WHY you gave the rating, thats all goodie 2 shoes and kudos to that nice citizen of SEN...
I fully support everyones current rating system as well as to 'encourage' more people to type a little more then then usually do for the reasons relating to their posted rates!
A great example of someone who is good at taking some heat is A of S T... I have posted some mean comments in some of his threads cause of blockiness and whatnot... at least I don't get flammed to holy hell like if I said something in Wilhelm's thread and ticked a person off...
You need to stop your Power Trip perhaps?
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If you can't take the heat (even from people bashing your terrain & defending it yourself) then just don't post your terrain...
I have yet to see anything really good posted except for some very old stuff by Rantent and rare terrain from some other map makers... I purely grade on what I have seen.
Actually... if your post does just say... "Rate me." I think that you have the right to just leave a rating... If you were KIND enough to put suggestions or WHY you gave the rating, thats all goodie 2 shoes and kudos to that nice citizen of SEN...
I fully support everyones current rating system as well as to 'encourage' more people to type a little more then then usually do for the reasons relating to their posted rates!
A great example of someone who is good at taking some heat is A of S T... I have posted some mean comments in some of his threads cause of blockiness and whatnot... at least I don't get flammed to holy hell like if I said something in Wilhelm's thread and ticked a person off...
You need to stop your Power Trip perhaps?
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ok wood. examine your signature. hmmm i might have bad vision but is that a a link to a terrian i made? oddy enough you're awlays complaining about our need to explor other titleists. yet when i did it, i was beatten down by you harsh sons of b*******. now tell me somthin, when was the last time you posted a non-jungle terrian. yeah.... you got me stumped too.
now ill give you credit that you told me what was wrong with my terrian however, being the harshest judge is plain gay. you are the eldeged best terrianer the is. the reason most of us dont live up to your standaerds is cause most of us cant spend 12 hours a day working on a 5x5 peice of terrian.
im a nice person so i forgive you. but just dont be like this.
QUOTE(S.T.A.R.S-Legacy @ May 1 2006, 05:04 AM)
Hmmm lets see:
Just how many posts have you put here?
How many topics on newb terrain have you replyed to?
How many of all those did you give above a 4? [/Sarcasm]
Just how many posts have you put here?
How many topics on newb terrain have you replyed to?
How many of all those did you give above a 4? [/Sarcasm]
hes right you know
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Dude you are very good with terrain ill admit, and although it doesnt make up for your attitude, alot of people think highly of what you say. Those people are purely retarded or havent been here long.
ADD:
By the way, most of the time one negative opinion can make some one very upset on a first try. With little kids you tell them their little scribbles are beautiful art, but its just so you dont ruin their confidence.
-Legacy
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ADD:
By the way, most of the time one negative opinion can make some one very upset on a first try. With little kids you tell them their little scribbles are beautiful art, but its just so you dont ruin their confidence.
-Legacy
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^ still right
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wilhelm on 2006-05-01 at 17:14:01
I don't give a damn about your credentials. Give me a reason why you're rating it so low. Wooden, you have an excessive sense of self-defense. What's odd about your post is your first is in support while the second is a direct attack on my character, seemingly because of one sentence in A_of_as_t's post. Take the "Rate my signature" thread for example, people post suggestions with almost all low scores, sometimes as simple as "lower the brightness". Just telling someone "it's blocky" is equivalent to rating someone's signature with "it's ugly", it's a wasted post. If you've had your fun trying to commandeer this topic in shameless self-promotion, I'd like this topic to be about people's conduct in the terrain forum, rather than be all about you. I am not talking about any one person, I'm talking about the behavior of several individuals at different times.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Toothfariy on 2006-05-01 at 18:19:34
so from now on, no bullcrap?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2006-05-01 at 18:45:43
QUOTE(Wilhelm @ Apr 30 2006, 09:46 PM)
If you're going to rate terrain, post some reasons for a bad rating, so the newcomer can improve their terrain. This is not a popularity contest. I'm tired of seeing people throw out 1/10's and 2/10's without explaination, or even comments, just a low score. Don't give me any bull on this, if you can't think of what is wrong with a piece, why the hell are you rating it low? I know this doesn't apply to everyone, and I respect anyone with the decency to give suggestions, but just because you feel yourself a self-stylized "terrain wizard" doesn't mean you get to be an ass.
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Does it apply to me?
QUOTE(glytchur @ May 1 2006, 06:19 AM)
ya... im pretty much outa terrain and all by now if you guys havent noticed, this is one reason why, because now theres only 3 or 4 terrain pros, and nobody else seems to be getting up there...
i might post a lazer tag style map or something but for now, i plan on making maps for hl2 and css...
and this thread has seemed to turn into a flame war...
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i might post a lazer tag style map or something but for now, i plan on making maps for hl2 and css...
and this thread has seemed to turn into a flame war...
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QUOTE(WoodenFire @ May 1 2006, 06:26 AM)
Glytchur... no! we must have your CLIFFs and methodical terrain testing ><
Rantent never posts terrain cause hes kinda busy I think... Oo
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Rantent never posts terrain cause hes kinda busy I think... Oo
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Looks like it's up to me... *Syphon starts making terrain for the first time since summer.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-05-01 at 18:52:09
I didn't read like any posts after 3, but this is damn true. We all know who it was directed at, the "PROFESSIONAL TERRAIN MAKER" who makes up bullcrap reasons, like "You used a half ruins converter tile when you should have used a high middle ramp tile." or a bunch of his terrain jargon that he made up himself.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-05-01 at 19:32:54
I don't think you need a reson to go 3/10. Some constructive criticism would be nice, but I don't think any one really has to give any. My only problem is with the people who come in here and go 1/10 its easy blah blah blah, but don't actually post their own terrain.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by A_of_s_t on 2006-05-01 at 20:01:28
QUOTE(S.T.A.R.S-Legacy @ May 1 2006, 05:00 AM)
I admit A of ST should drop it. My little rant here is purely just because i havent had you sicked on my terrain yet.
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wiat,what do I need to drop? My terrain making or my not flamming?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)Excalibur on 2006-05-01 at 20:16:58
QUOTE(A_of_s_t @ May 1 2006, 07:01 PM)
wiat,what do I need to drop? My terrain making or my not flamming?
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This
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Wilhem, I tottally agree, and it is odd that you, Woodenfire, agree. I have an odd feeling this was inderictly talking about you.
I stepped out and fired at Wooden straight off. You sat there with a suggestion and then hid back from what might be said. I believe you wanted to say what i did, you just didnt have the balls.
So drop the damn
"If i dont DIRECTLY tell wooden hes a simon resembling illegitimate child ill be fine!"
-Legacy
Report, edit, etc...Posted by A_of_s_t on 2006-05-01 at 20:32:20
QUOTE(S.T.A.R.S-Legacy @ May 1 2006, 06:16 PM)
This
I stepped out and fired at Wooden straight off. You sat there with a suggestion and then hid back from what might be said. I believe you wanted to say what i did, you just didnt have the balls.
So drop the damn
"If i dont DIRECTLY tell wooden hes a simon resembling illegitimate child ill be fine!"
-Legacy
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I stepped out and fired at Wooden straight off. You sat there with a suggestion and then hid back from what might be said. I believe you wanted to say what i did, you just didnt have the balls.
So drop the damn
"If i dont DIRECTLY tell wooden hes a simon resembling illegitimate child ill be fine!"
-Legacy
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... Im not going to respond to that other than saying, I dont want to get in trouble on an INTERNET SITE.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Toothfariy on 2006-05-01 at 20:40:47
as long as ur not calling him foul names or insulting him then you cant get in trouble. as long as it the truth
Report, edit, etc...Posted by A_of_s_t on 2006-05-01 at 23:51:48
All I said was that Wilhem was INDERECTLY talking about WoodenFire, they are always fighting, so, I just pointed it out, how in hell did I step back? I never even said anything that might hurt either of them. I will say that EACH of them, Whilem and Wooden have their Unique style of terraining and they each feel that they are a great terrainer. But each of them, mostly Woodenfire (HA! 'DIRECT' "ATTACK" AGAINST HIM ) makes rude to malicious, but helpful comments about his terrain. It is an ego fight, no less. S.T.A.R.S., be the bigger man and step down. I never wanted to insult WOoden or Wilhem, mainly because ech make superb terrain. So there.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dr.Shotgun on 2006-05-02 at 07:37:08
WoodenFire, if you feel th need to rate newb's terrain badly, then don;t rate it at all. How good were you when you first started? I wouldn't imagine your first piece was all that great. What if you posted it on SEN and got uberly owned by some apparent terrain master, without even a reason or suggestions? Most SEN members would react to the harsh rating in a negative way, deciding terrain wasn't their cup of tea. What if they actually could have become talented terrain artists? what have you dont to the future of terraining?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by WoodenFire on 2006-05-02 at 08:33:03
Who are you to tell me what to do? I will take your comment as a suggestion and nothing more.
If I was a newb, I would post my SHat terrain with the Title of... "How do I improove, Please Send Screenshot Alterations & Help..." and not "Rate My MasterPiece"
-.-
THere should be a pinned thread called Wilhelm Vs WoodenFire.
If I was a newb, I would post my SHat terrain with the Title of... "How do I improove, Please Send Screenshot Alterations & Help..." and not "Rate My MasterPiece"
-.-
THere should be a pinned thread called Wilhelm Vs WoodenFire.