Report, edit, etc...Posted by Hurricane on 2006-05-03 at 17:48:16
I have looked through all of the bullet firing system tutorials and ideas, and I have not quite found what I am looking for. I am new to map making, but have plenty of neat ideas.
What I am looking for:
To be able to use a Terran Ghost to attack a certain point on the map, within a certain range, and whatever is at the point clicked will die.
I do not want to have to use any sort of beacon system, drop ship system, just attack a point and if something is maybe near the point I could just decrease the health percentage and say the person was shot in the leg etc.
If it is at all possible to do this, please anyone point me in the right direction, I am willing to compromise a bit!
What I am looking for:
To be able to use a Terran Ghost to attack a certain point on the map, within a certain range, and whatever is at the point clicked will die.
I do not want to have to use any sort of beacon system, drop ship system, just attack a point and if something is maybe near the point I could just decrease the health percentage and say the person was shot in the leg etc.
If it is at all possible to do this, please anyone point me in the right direction, I am willing to compromise a bit!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JB4times4 on 2006-05-03 at 17:55:15
all i can think of is using a defiler instead of a ghost and using this method...
P12 brings at least 1 Dark Swarm to anywhere
Center location gun shot at swarm
Destroy all units at gun shot Blast
yes its player 12 cause swarms are owned by player 12.
P12 brings at least 1 Dark Swarm to anywhere
Center location gun shot at swarm
Destroy all units at gun shot Blast
yes its player 12 cause swarms are owned by player 12.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Toothfariy on 2006-05-03 at 18:02:32
it's not possible to use a ghoast for that kind of thing. lock downs are owned by the player you shoot it at. nukes will take way too long and cloak, you can shot a cloak.
the only real way is to use a dw/df system
other wise you'll have to use a drop ship and obeserver
the only real way is to use a dw/df system
other wise you'll have to use a drop ship and obeserver Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zeratul_101 on 2006-05-03 at 21:40:14
whats with all the newbies wanting to click and die? not like any released map has had this feature before.
to put it simply, its impossible.
if you were willing to change the ghost to defiler then you could use the darkswarm system.
keep in mind for the health aspect, you can't add or subtract percentages, you can only change them to a certain amount.
e.g. you want a unit to be hurt by three percent, so you'd put in 97% naturally.
now, lets take a look at what happens.
attack #1
100% --> attack trigger(sets hp% to 97%) --> 97% (perfect so far)
attack#2
97% --> attack trigger(sets hp% to 97%) --> *supposed to be 94%* --> but really is 97%
nows lets take an injured unit at 50%
50% --> attack trigger(sets hp% to 97%) --> 97% (you performed a heal spell, congratulations!)
to put it simply, its impossible.
if you were willing to change the ghost to defiler then you could use the darkswarm system.
keep in mind for the health aspect, you can't add or subtract percentages, you can only change them to a certain amount.
e.g. you want a unit to be hurt by three percent, so you'd put in 97% naturally.
now, lets take a look at what happens.
attack #1
100% --> attack trigger(sets hp% to 97%) --> 97% (perfect so far)
attack#2
97% --> attack trigger(sets hp% to 97%) --> *supposed to be 94%* --> but really is 97%
nows lets take an injured unit at 50%
50% --> attack trigger(sets hp% to 97%) --> 97% (you performed a heal spell, congratulations!)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Toothfariy on 2006-05-03 at 22:17:39
QUOTE(Zeratul_101 @ May 3 2006, 07:39 PM)
whats with all the newbies wanting to click and die? not like any released map has had this feature before.
to put it simply, its impossible.
if you were willing to change the ghost to defiler then you could use the darkswarm system.
keep in mind for the health aspect, you can't add or subtract percentages, you can only change them to a certain amount.
e.g. you want a unit to be hurt by three percent, so you'd put in 97% naturally.
now, lets take a look at what happens.
attack #1
100% --> attack trigger --> 97% (perfect so far)
attack#2
97% --> attack trigger --> *supposed to be 94%* --> but really is 97%
nows lets take an injured unit at 50%
50% --> attack trigger --> 97% (you performed a heal spell, congratulations!)
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to put it simply, its impossible.
if you were willing to change the ghost to defiler then you could use the darkswarm system.
keep in mind for the health aspect, you can't add or subtract percentages, you can only change them to a certain amount.
e.g. you want a unit to be hurt by three percent, so you'd put in 97% naturally.
now, lets take a look at what happens.
attack #1
100% --> attack trigger --> 97% (perfect so far)
attack#2
97% --> attack trigger --> *supposed to be 94%* --> but really is 97%
nows lets take an injured unit at 50%
50% --> attack trigger --> 97% (you performed a heal spell, congratulations!)
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2006-05-03 at 22:20:47
If you are willing to wait for a long time, nukes will work. Nuclear missiles are detectable and they can work in the "bring" conditions. There really isin't any point to do that because you might as well just let the nuke drop and kill the units there.
Zeratul_101 don't call people newbies just because they want to try and so something different.
Zeratul_101 don't call people newbies just because they want to try and so something different.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Toothfariy on 2006-05-03 at 23:06:13
ya but like, how are you gona make a range that far on a nuke?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zeratul_101 on 2006-05-04 at 11:18:57
QUOTE(KaboomHahahein @ May 3 2006, 08:20 PM)
Zeratul_101 don't call people newbies just because they want to try and so something different.
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well, i wasn't trying to insult him, thats why i called him a newbie ... as in new. if i was trying to insult him, i would have just called him a n00b
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tuxedo Templar on 2006-05-04 at 11:21:42
Well I have information from someone there is in fact a way to "get" the bullet hits of units with triggers, but I have yet to confirm that. I'd rather let them post the method themself than stumble around trying to explain it.
Dunno if it would be entirely practical for normal maps, though.
Dunno if it would be entirely practical for normal maps, though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lll on 2006-05-04 at 16:41:47
If you want to use a Ghost. It is possible. I found a way to do it awile back...
The ghost cant use his regular attack so u have to make a custom one. Then I was the one that found you can detect cloak... search concepts with my threads ull c its possible. Gl
The ghost cant use his regular attack so u have to make a custom one. Then I was the one that found you can detect cloak... search concepts with my threads ull c its possible. Gl
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Toothfariy on 2006-05-04 at 17:11:35
how do u detect cloak exactly?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lll on 2006-05-04 at 20:18:03
Im not gana explain it all out again when your fully capable to do a 1 min search and find my post...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JB4times4 on 2006-05-04 at 20:47:37
alright i searched and DID NOT find it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zeratul_101 on 2006-05-04 at 21:38:10
QUOTE(JB4times4 @ May 4 2006, 06:47 PM)
alright i searched and DID NOT find it.
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if i remember correctly, it involved having an enemy lurker with no detection around and a burrowed ally unit. when the unit was uncloaked, the lurker would attack the ghost and its splash would kill the ally unit. your triggers would be looking for the allied unit and perform the apporpiate actions when it wasn't there.
theres another method with suicidal units that work for both air and ground and doesn't require the allied units. otherwise, it works exactly the same way.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Hurricane on 2006-05-05 at 17:30:12
I just watched Tuxedo_Templar's preview for Rush, and what he did with his marine where it had like a machine gun effect seemed like he was using flags; he also had shotgun type attacks. This is what I am looking for. Maybe he had the locations just at that point on the map, but if there is a way to do this all over the map that'd be excellent.
Also, about the guy who said it is possible - could you please at least tell me which forum or what section you posted your explanation in, I don't expect you to explain it here.
ADDITION:
And now I just saw Tux's post, so disregard what I said above =\
Also, about the guy who said it is possible - could you please at least tell me which forum or what section you posted your explanation in, I don't expect you to explain it here.
ADDITION:
And now I just saw Tux's post, so disregard what I said above =\