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Report, edit, etc...Posted by xMCx on 2006-05-10 at 18:39:34
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"Offending" Moderator:
Mini Moose 2707

Disagreement: Mini Moose 2707 recently closed a thread i made Here, and commented with this,
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"Please don't advertise your clan here. Feel free to unlock the topic if you remove your other agenda."
(He explained he wouldn't allow Clan advertising, but what graciously accept the tutorials on the site.) We now have a thread at CreepColony.com Here. The rules say members can have only "One Forum" not only one thread. Please don't use it against me. I know we have 2 great admins here and that they are "Supreme", but we need to follow the owner of this sites rules, Yoshi Da Sniper. Hopefully, this is not a dictatorship where only one person's word goes. I feel the Owner of this site should have the final word on how this is played, for he is the most honorable.

Note: Mini Moose 2707 is a great moderator, but I felt he has made a serious mistake. Here is evidence that Yoshi and this site were never against clan advertising.

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If your topic has the subject or text of any of the following, then you may get a warn level increase or a suspention.

Staredit Network is a community of purely map making, and intellectual discussion. Its been going deeper and deeper down the drain as less constructive topics take shape. The sites ideals are no fighting, and to co-operate.

If the poll or question can easily be answered by looking into peoples profiles - Including, gateway, birthday, username, etc. It is up to the user to fill in any contact or profile details. If they do not, you may PM them and ask them to do so.

Harrassment to other users - If your post is purely flaming or harrassing another user, is a no no. Seriously, there is no reason to do this. Even if the other person is the one who is acting like their shoe size, theres no reason you should join them. Respect everyone and they will respect you.

Sexual - Any references to anything sexual, is now out of the question. There is no reason content like this should be on a STARCRAFT MAP MAKING SITE, so you can go google whatever floats your boat on your own time. We don't need to hear about it here.

If you can't debate properly, don't do it at all - If you are easily offended by someone disagreeing to your ideals, then don't bother stepping into the Serious forum. If you want a pat on the back for everything you say, don't come here at all. Someone will always disagree with you.

If you're angry, don't turn on your computer - There are real people viewing these forums. Be considerate, because they are all real. They aren't people who come here to read your anger posts.

If you got something to say, back it up with reason - Don't say, I love milk. Because no one cares. Say, I love milk because its good for your bones.

If you have a question, provide a lot of information so others can help you - Don't ask, how to download. Ask, How to download starcraft maps from the downloads database and play them with starcraft.

Don't repeat topics - Take a quick scan of the forum, make sure that you aren't repeating the same topic. Even if a topic is remotely simular, you can use the one.

Pay close attention to sticky topics, forum rules (at the top of the forum index you are viewing), and new topic/reply guidelines - EXPECIALLY when you are new, you want to do this. If you already read them, then skim through it every once in a while just to see if it wasn't updated. Most importantly this includes the FAQ Forum in which you are reading right now.

As always, please keep reporting all posts that you deem as not belonging here. -Yoshi Da Sniper

This never says that clan advertising is not allowed above. He also says he does not want posts that are not constructive. My post advertising my clan had decent tutorials and promoted map-making, tutorial writing, map-testing, UMS playing, Melee playing, and many more aspects of making our StarCraft forums a more "Constructive" enviroment.
Also, StarEdit.net supports clans that are not affiliated with them. Examples are Clan uUu, Clan aE, Clan oO, Clan MM, and Clan Mp). They so much have forums while I am simply asking for a thread. Another fact is that Clan TA & Clan UOU had a thread set up in the Null section as well, and they were never asked not to "not advertise their clan". The only possible reason I could think of for Mini Moose locking my thread if for clan prejudice. Yoshi Da Sniper once liked the same Clan (MC) so much he set up a forum for them. I only want a thread unlocked. My Clan recently merged with Clan TA to support productivity. Hopefully, it will continue to do so with other great clans like Clan tR.

I wish he would reconsider because my love for StarCraft is as great as his.
Sincerly,
DarkArchon(MC)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-05-10 at 18:51:02
Rules can be added, and changed.
And currently, Moose can do whatever he wants.


That 1 forum thing refers to the people SEN hosts forums for, such as Oo, MM, (U), and Mp)
I'm fairly certain the FAQs say that there is a rule against clan advertisment, or advertisment in general.

Also, he said if you wanted to re-open the thread, for the tutorials and stuff, you would need to remove the clan advertisments.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-05-10 at 18:53:46
I don't see why you're setting up an entire clansite within a thread. It seems pointless - just get a website, much easier to navigate.

As for the "one forum" rule, that applies to clans seeking or who have a hosted forum already on SEN.

I think this might warrant an update in posting rules. tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by xMCx on 2006-05-10 at 18:58:56
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Rules can be added, and changed.
And currently, Moose can do whatever he wants.

No kidding, I would prefer Yoshi Da Sniper would decide this. He is ther owner.

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That 1 forum thing refers to the people SEN hosts forums for, such as Oo, MM, (U), and Mp)
I'm fairly certain the FAQs say that there is a rule against clan advertisment, or advertisment in general.

No, it refers to "Clan Hosting". Not Clan Forum Hosting. Yoshi Clearly wrote that. Ask him what he means.

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Also, he said if you wanted to re-open the thread, for the tutorials and stuff, you would need to remove the clan advertisments.

I clearly stated that.

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I don't see why you're setting up an entire clansite within a thread. It seems pointless - just get a website, much easier to navigate.

We aren't all blessed with HTML knowledge. biggrin.gif

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I think this might warrant an update in posting rules. 

So we just amend the owner of this site rules when we find something we disagree about with him or do you just not want to look bad by making a mistake. I recall the NuclearRabbit dispute with a GM. Yoshi had the last word.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-05-10 at 19:02:47
Check out the list of Administrators. I don't see Yoshi_da_Sniper anywhere. He's retired awhile ago, and as such, its only natural that his policy becomes outdated.

Anyway, you make valid points. Thread reopened.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-05-10 at 19:04:38
Theres really no point in this, your really just wasting your time.


But if you want our opinion your gonna get it. Your post would have most likely have died in about a week. Especially if it was in the Null forum, theres like 10 new topics a day in there and your topic wouldn't have been able to keep up. Not to mention that all your disscussion would have to be in that one topic. Better off to make your own forum. Just go to invisisec or w/e its called and create a free account and you can get a free forum for yourself.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by xMCx on 2006-05-10 at 19:06:39
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Check out the list of Administrators. I don't see Yoshi_da_Sniper anywhere. He's retired awhile ago, and as such, its only natural that his policy becomes outdated.

Anyway, you make valid points. Thread reopened.

Thank you, you are a great admin. Just a simple mistake this time. tongue.gif

Note: Feel free to lock to make room for the more important topics.

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So are you trying to form a mutiny or what? Why couldn't you just PM the guy?

I clearly stated that I did PM him above, learn to read.
This issue is resolved. (Feel free to quote me)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-05-10 at 19:07:23
Locked before more spam comes.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2006-05-10 at 20:36:13
I'll be speaking on behalf of having Yoshi have the last word.

Yoshi is not the owner nor Administrator of Staredit.net. He is just the owner of the domain name and not the content which is posted on that domain name. He no longer runs the site, and thus, has no word in Moderation issues. The only matter in which we will consult him, is if we wished to do anything to the domain name.

IsolatedPurity has been the site owner for a very long time now, since October 2004.

If you want Yoshi to post that he is not the owner of the content of this website, not an Administrator and his word is not that of which says what goes on at SeN, I will get him to post here.
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