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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sarah_K on 2006-05-22 at 06:14:55
ok so mathematical warns are a bad idea (I just read that topic) and stringent rules possibly lead to people abusing them, but how about at least having it as a rule that when someone gets warned or minerals deducted, they get a private message telling them why?

it would be much better really.. I have no idea why my warn level went to 40% and minerals suddenly went to -1, is this because of the smear campaign by DEAD in my welcome topic or what? blink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-05-22 at 06:25:12
Usually there is a link to the post that led to the punishment. Look in your PM's inbox cairfully.

If you won't find anything there, sorry, then I don't know. tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-05-22 at 06:35:14
You can click on your Warn Level to view the log of all actions taken against you.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sarah_K on 2006-05-22 at 06:40:53
nope, nothing :/ I got one before when I got the first warning - 20% - for calling a topic Moose made retarded (I didn't notice the person that made the topic was the site admin at the time -_- ) but this time.. nothing at all

I really hope it isn't because of all that "bullcrap" (lol) because it really is (and I think it's basically just a way to attack me/try to get me banned by people who hate protection (quite a few of those who posted nasty messages on my welcome topic)) sad.gif

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QUOTE(Voyager7456(MM) @ May 22 2006, 10:34 AM)
You can click on your Warn Level to view the log of all actions taken against you.
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ah ha, revelation! thanks! smile.gif smile.gif

I didn't even bother trying, I just figured it would be a help message explaining what "warn" means like the popup for bb code.. lol smile.gif

hah -_-
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Added to warn level ----
Heavy Flaming over the last page of said topic:

http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=30265&st=40
Removed 50 Minerals.

it was for defending myself against malicious lies :/
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-05-22 at 06:42:28
SEN does not support OSMAP in any way, so if you want to be a good member do 2 things:

1.don't flame/abuse/spam
2.don't talk about how OSMAP is great.

Walla, simple formula smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sarah_K on 2006-05-22 at 06:43:09
does warning level go down over time or is it permanant? do "reverse warns" exist at all?

QUOTE(Jammed @ May 22 2006, 10:42 AM)
2.don't talk about how OSMAP is great.[right][snapback]490747[/snapback][/right]


I talked with moose about that in PM and apparently it's allowed to have an opinion (thankfully -_-) but linking to OSMap gets you an instant warning

of course when I got my warning for linking to OSMap I did not know this, cos it doesn't say anything about OSMap in any of the rules ermm.gif alright once you know the crowd really but pretty mean having unwritten rules like that for newbies
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-05-22 at 06:48:35
Usually, warn level doesen't go down... Maybe if you will create a flawless method against OSMAP, moose will make your warn 0% wink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sarah_K on 2006-05-22 at 07:05:41
lol tongue.gif smile.gif

I still think osmap has the potential for good as much as bad.. new versions of old maps would be impossible if it werent for it -_-
Report, edit, etc...Posted by xMCx on 2006-05-22 at 09:04:24
Most moderators tell you what you got did wrong I think. (But I don't know I've never been warned).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sarah_K on 2006-05-22 at 09:30:32
yeah, seems it's not always tho

for any newbies reading this topic you just need to click the link from your warn percentage (eg "Warn: (40%)") and see why

or
http://staredit.net/act=warn&mid=####&CODE=view
Replace #### above with the same number that's in the #### space below, from when you click on your own name to view your profile smile.gif
http://staredit.net/?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=####
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-05-22 at 10:09:26
QUOTE(Sarah_K @ May 22 2006, 04:05 AM)
lol tongue.gif smile.gif

I still think osmap has the potential for good as much as bad.. new versions of old maps would be impossible if it werent for it -_-
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Quit being a "newb" and learn Hexidecimal.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-05-22 at 11:11:05
QUOTE(Sarah_K @ May 22 2006, 01:40 PM)

it was for defending myself against malicious lies :/
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Are you calling me a liar, shorty? You? lmfao.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-05-22 at 13:44:13
QUOTE(Sarah_K @ May 22 2006, 03:40 AM)
nope, nothing :/ I got one before when I got the first warning - 20% - for calling a topic Moose made retarded (I didn't notice the person that made the topic was the site admin at the time -_- ) but this time.. nothing at all

I really hope it isn't because of all that "bullcrap" (lol) because it really is (and I think it's basically just a way to attack me/try to get me banned by people who hate protection (quite a few of those who posted nasty messages on my welcome topic)) sad.gif

ADDITION:

ah ha, revelation! thanks! smile.gif smile.gif

I didn't even bother trying, I just figured it would be a help message explaining what "warn" means like the popup for bb code.. lol smile.gif

hah -_-

it was for defending myself against malicious lies :/
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Well it's obvious why you got warned, now isn't it?

Nasty messages? You have a warped sense of perception, you know that? Nasty messages would be straight out FLAMES (Like you have done at LEAST 5 times already) and not people claiming you are someone else.

And I'll agree with you. It wouldn't be very hard to program some Javascript that pops up a window saying something like: "You've been warned, click here to view the warn" or something, but it's nothing to cry about.

Malicious lies? There you are with a twisted perception yet again. Malicious lies would be lies that hurt you in real life. Not on the internet. Who really cares if people lie about you? I get blamed for crap I don't even do and guess what? I only care because it's OLD and annoying. Other than that, who gives a flying f**k?

"Oh Em Gee! You are lying about me! It's malicious because it hurts my feelings!"

Yeah. I'm a mean person. I don't care because you show traits of someone who isn't the brightest brick in the wall, and I hate people who are like that. That's why I'm at 80%. I just like to tell them how it is, so they whine and report me. And the moderators here are so tied up in warning the members who are the least threat instead of warning the most malicious members (The SPAMMERS), that I get in trouble.

Doesn't matter though. You will probibly whine just like the rest.

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QUOTE(Sarah_K @ May 22 2006, 06:30 AM)
yeah, seems it's not always tho
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Uh, yeah they do.

But how would you know? I thought you were a "new" member?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sarah_K on 2006-05-22 at 17:03:09
QUOTE(Kellimus @ May 22 2006, 05:43 PM)
Uh, yeah they do.

But how would you know?  I thought you were a "new" member?[right][snapback]490849[/snapback][/right]


DUH. You obviously didn't read my post at all, or just ignored the bits that don't fit in with your warped little perception of the world - *I didn't get a message for the second warning* SO OF COURSE I know they don't always send a message. god.. the sheer stupidity astounds me..

I hope you and "DEAD" got warned too, since you are the one constantly trolling and attacking me for no reason (other than a blatant lie that I'm someone else, apparently just because I like OSMap)

get a life, "you must be someone else who got banned because you like OSMap" is a joke..

If anyone should be banned it's you two, because you and DEAD have done nothing but insult and harass me since I arrived ..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-05-22 at 17:03:46
You guys are just contining a flame war that was closed for a reason. Because it was a flame war.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sarah_K on 2006-05-22 at 17:13:11
can anything be done about the terrible twos here (kellimus and dead)? what would prove that I wasnt this "shorty" person theyre so paranoid about?

I just saw another topic in this forum by those two that was nothing more than an attempt to get me banned rolleyes.gif with no evidence whatsoever... magical "research" that's never said what it was and little else...

oh, and "you like OSmap, so you must be banned!" great logic...

EDIT:
this needs to be resolved because otherwise they are going to carry on bringing it up on nearly every topic I post on.. its ridiculous.. look through DEAD's recent post and he's namecalling me "shorty" or "nano" constantly... the two of them are constantly trolling
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-05-22 at 17:24:52
Well you can start off by ignoring them. You can't do anything, it's not against the rules to accuse someone of being someone as long as they stay relvant to the topic. However some posts like "Quiet Shorty" is just plain spam. But I haven't seen them do that.
But what is against the law is OSmap it's widely disliked on this fourm and a member has already been banned for advertising. That won't change so don't try to make it change. And if you like OSmap that's great, no one cares. If there's one thing I've found out from arguing with DEAD (Not so much kellimus since I rarely do it) is that you get more of an open conversation from a wall, at least it can't be single minded. It jsut sits there.

But seriously guys there's no point dragging this on. If a mod ever finds out that your shorty or not, then they'll do something about it. And no matter what DEAD or Kellimus do will change that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-05-22 at 17:28:22
Sarah_K, EVERY significant moderation action taken against you is explained in your warn logs. And "topic that Moose made", you would've gotten the same thing in anyone's topic. There's no reason to make a post adding nothing to discussion then slapping 12 of the same image on it.

As for you handling Kellimus and DEAD, I keep saying this.
QUOTE(Rules)
6. If you and other(s) are going to argue or have a side conversation, try to keep it in Private Messages. We are not a court system, and will consider excessive posting of off topic replies spamming in addition to flaming.

STOP posting about it in the feedback forum and report the posts where they "troll" you. I'm tired of seeing this spill over to forum discussion.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-05-22 at 20:29:12
Before any more public flamey retaliation..

Topic Locked
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2006-05-22 at 21:24:22
Let's clarify everything right now.

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it would be much better really.. I have no idea why my warn level went to 40% and minerals suddenly went to -1, is this because of the smear campaign by DEAD in my welcome topic or what?


Every single log in your Warn Logs has explanation and a link or quote to what happened.

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I really hope it isn't because of all that "bullcrap" (lol) because it really is (and I think it's basically just a way to attack me/try to get me banned by people who hate protection (quite a few of those who posted nasty messages on my welcome topic))


It's against SeN Policy and the SeN rules to provide links for Unprotectors, Hacks, Cracks or Illegal stuff of any kind. The Administration and Staff are the ones who made these rules, and quite frankly, some of us support unprotection. Don't blame a Community that attempts to follow the rules already put into place.

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it was for defending myself against malicious lies :/


A rule broken is a rule broken, doesn't matter what intention it had. You don't get a free pass with the Police for killing somebody because they killed your brother.

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does warning level go down over time or is it permanant? do "reverse warns" exist at all?


Depends. Warns can only be modified manually.

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of course when I got my warning for linking to OSMap I did not know this, cos it doesn't say anything about OSMap in any of the rules alright once you know the crowd really but pretty mean having unwritten rules like that for newbies


We don't have to specifically write every single program that isn't allowed on SeN. Unprotectors means every single unprotector, doesn't matter what.

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DUH. You obviously didn't read my post at all, or just ignored the bits that don't fit in with your warped little perception of the world - *I didn't get a message for the second warning* SO OF COURSE I know they don't always send a message. god.. the sheer stupidity astounds me..


But the increase of the percentage in numbers should catch your attention anyways. Moderators will always make mistakes, there is no perfect moderator that does everything right. That's why you can see your logs, just in case we forget to PM you, you can see what we did.

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I hope you and "DEAD" got warned too, since you are the one constantly trolling and attacking me for no reason (other than a blatant lie that I'm someone else, apparently just because I like OSMap)

get a life, "you must be someone else who got banned because you like OSMap" is a joke..

If anyone should be banned it's you two, because you and DEAD have done nothing but insult and harass me since I arrived ..


You are no such person or in such position to decide who should get warned, banned or punished. Leave the punishment to the Staff. If you see a rule broken, just report it to us and forget about it, it's no longer your problem.

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this needs to be resolved because otherwise they are going to carry on bringing it up on nearly every topic I post on.. its ridiculous.. look through DEAD's recent post and he's namecalling me "shorty" or "nano" constantly... the two of them are constantly trolling


Stop whining about it and report it. We are not here to take care of you.
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