In my opinion... No. See if you've played Area 51 like me... You'll see it's been staged. Yes
I saw this one program on National Geographic where the people pretty much own up every single moon conspiracy theory.
But did you see that there was no crater underneath the... space pod-majig? With all the thrust to break through the Moon's gravitational pole on Earth would be hard... You'd imagine a crater would form with all the heat pounding on the surface like that.
If the spacecraft made a crater on the moon, I'm pretty sure the astronauts would be dead.
When it was landing dude... When it was landing... Also... if you look closely at some of the astronaut pictures, you see them inside a shadow of something such as the space craft however, they're not shrouded in darkness... Hmm... something fishy there, eh?
I don't belive it is possible, plus i don't even think any one has ever thought of that before.. From way modern society goes it's probably impossible..it could have happend maybe.. well i think against it.
That's what I think. i bet it was staged to get the space race really going fast.
i dont think we were able to do it in 1969 but nowa day probley.
QUOTE(Pyro_Maniak14 @ Jun 6 2006, 05:38 PM)
But did you see that there was no crater underneath the... space pod-majig? With all the thrust to break through the Moon's gravitational pole on Earth would be hard... You'd imagine a crater would form with all the heat pounding on the surface like that.
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Ah, I remember that issue from the program. I can't remember what they said about it though. I should find it
On February 15, 2001 the FOX television network aired a program titled Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land On The Moon? This program showed alleged evidence that NASA faked the moon landings. This hoax theory has been around for several years, but this is the first time it has been presented to such a wide audience. Since this Website, Rocket and Space Technology, is dedicated to the men and women who brought the moon landings to fruition, I feel the time is right for me to speak out on this topic.
This TV program capitalizes on America's fixation with government conspiracies by sensationalizing the notion that NASA perpetrated a multi-billion dollar hoax on the world. In my opinion, the FOX network acted irresponsibly by airing this program. What they produced is a TV show filled with sloppy research, scientific inaccuracies and erroneous conclusions. To support such an absurd theory and to cast doubt in the minds of the American public is an insult to the courage of the astronauts and the brilliance of the engineers who worked to achieve mankind's greatest technological feat. FOX is apparently only concerned with ratings while exhibiting total disregard for the integrity of America's true heroes.
Some of the most prominent advocates of the hoax theory are Bill Kaysing, author of We Never Went To The Moon, Ralph Rene, author of NASA Mooned America, David Percy and Mary Bennett, co-authors of Dark Moon: Apollo and the Whistle Blowers and, more recently, Bart Sibrel, producer of A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Moon. These people, and other hoax advocates, usually point to alleged anomalies in the Apollo photo and video record as evidence of their claims. The FOX program featured many of these claims while providing very little refuting evidence or testimony. Below are my comments refuting both the evidence presented in the TV program and many other common hoax allegations. I invite you to draw your own conclusions, but I suspect you will find the facts speak for themselves.
Every Apollo mission before number 11 was plagued by about 20,000 defects apiece. Yet, with the exception of Apollo 13, NASA claims there wasn't one major technical problem on any of their Moon missions.
This is the claim of hoax advocate Ralph Rene. Although I am unfamiliar with the source of this information, Mr. Rene's assertion is clear; the early missions had so many insurmountable problems that NASA decided to abandon the moon landings and fake it. Even if the data is accurate, there is a big difference between a "defect" and a "major technical problem". None of the Apollo missions, with the exception of number 13, experienced a major technical problem that prohibited the crews from successfully completing their missions. Also, the early Apollo flights were test missions designed specifically to shake out bugs in the hardware and procedures. Finally, the moon landings were far from flawless. There were numerous technical problems but, thanks to the skill of the flight controllers, engineers and astronauts, the problems were either corrected or circumvented such that the crews were able to complete their missions with amazing success.
Okay, this is crazy! I have heard of this before, Bull Crap, there is now way this could be faked, I mean I'll start with the obvious - Lets fake the death of seven or nine poeple aboard the Columbia spacecraft! Lets just kill them and say they crashed then send debree at 17 x the speed of sound right over Texas which is on the way to Florida where they were supposed to land.
And all those pictures they have from the luner lander on Mars and stuff, what they higher some guy from SEN that was really good with photoshop to make unreal like things to make it look like Mars? Oh good hopefully I am chosen next! I know for some it is hard to think about, but why make a big deal about something that we know is true. They just sent the first satellite to Pluto (the only planet in our, as of known, solar system that hasnt been visited by a satellite! They say it take about 15-16 years for it to get there. Let me guess, you people that dont believe that we have gotten on the moon yet think this is just them buying time! Well if it wasnt true, half the people that are hiding it right now will have old-timers and forget everything in 20 years. They would just make it something like 2 years or something!
They are also making a hotel that will float in space, they already started construction. Answer this for me, Why would they tell people that they will be able to visit something within a couple years if they cant do it. This is like telling someone you will give them a million dollars when there is only 500,000 dollars in the world. You just cant lie about something this big, its impossible!
Uh, this topic is about did we land on the moon in 1969, NOT if we can go there now.
As there is no presented evidence to dispute our landing on the Moon, this is hardly serious...
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The only thing that would make me think it was a fake is the lack of stars in the backround in ALL of the pictures and vids... It may have been a fake because of the constant competition of the U.S. and the Soviet Union ( If I'm not mistaken on my history ). There is no real way we can prove or disprove the 1969 moon landing. It is one of those things in which you must trust ur government on the truth.
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Uh, this topic is about did we land on the moon in 1969, NOT if we can go there now.
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We may not have landed on the moon in 1969, but we did a couple years later! Yes we can got to the moon now!
There is still like a million people in the world who dont believe that we can go on the moon now, which is soo wrong!
QUOTE(7-7 @ Jun 7 2006, 11:57 AM)
There is still like a million people in the world who dont believe that we can go on the moon now, which is soo wrong!
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Yea, and National Geographic proved them all wrong with their program about moon landing conspiracies.
QUOTE(A_of_s_t @ Jun 6 2006, 11:42 PM)
The only thing that would make me think it was a fake is the lack of stars in the backround in ALL of the pictures and vids...
The contrast between the brightness of the moon's surface and the darkness of the lunar sky made the stars not able to be seen. For example, in a brightly lit city, it's hard to see the stars.
What about people who watched the rocket take off and land? All the force to get of the Earth is not always there. They were in a rocket, and break off. They have small things to keep on course and to soften the landings. You have to land "softly" so the people and spacecraft don't get destroyed. Craters are not from heat, they are from speed and force. It is bright on the moon, unless you go to the back of it. Look at it at night, its the 2nd brightest thing in the sky (sun #1, venus #3). If you look at the moon, the stars around it cannot be seen within a specific radius because it is so bright. The sun does the same; however it is much brigher so you can't see any stars at all.
Edit: Fixed some words. Went from subject of landing to brightness, "light" is a bad word to use there.
And added a bit more info.
There has probably been some faked landings on the moon, but I'm pretty sure we've landed there. I mean, it's not that far away... for a rocket to get there, either. We have the technology.
it doesnt really matter does it? i mean if we didnt or did land on the moon it wouldnt really make much of a differnce now. anyway we will find out soon because there will be a satelite that can take pictures on the far side of the moon (where they landed) and we will see if the landing craft is there or not.
Before sending a human crew to the moon, the United States government decided that unmanned spacecraft should first explore the moon by photography and confirm the possibility of landing safely on it.
The Americans focused their efforts on sending a probe to the moon with their Pioneer program. However, three designs of probe on three different rocket launchers all failed in a total of ten attempts. The Soviet Luna program had launched Luna 1, the first spacecraft to fly past the moon on January 4, 1959. Its successor, Luna 2, was the first spacecraft to land on the moon, while Luna 3 took the first photos of the far side of the moon on October 7, 1959. Luna 9, launched by the USSR on February 3, 1966, performed the first "soft landing" on the moon; and Luna 10 became the first spacecraft to orbit the moon on April 3, 1966.
The robotic Surveyor program was part of the American effort to locate a safe site on the moon for a human landing. Five of Surveyor's seven missions were successful, helping to find the best target for the Apollo astronauts. Apollo 8 carried out the first manned orbit of the moon on December 27, 1968, laying the groundwork for placing a man on the moon.
sorry, 7-7 but you have proven your inability to speak on any subject. 3/4 of your posts that I have seen included nonsense evidence plus are off-topic half the time.
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Okay, this is crazy! I have heard of this before, Bull Crap, there is now way this could be faked, I mean I'll start with the obvious - Lets fake the death of seven or nine poeple aboard the Columbia spacecraft! Lets just kill them and say they crashed then send debree at 17 x the speed of sound right over Texas which is on the way to Florida where they were supposed to land. wink.gif
No one said being in space was faked, they say the landing was faked. This has completely nothing to do with the topic.
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Well even if it was staged it's not a total bad thing. During that time it was a big thing and brought a lot of joy to the US and sad to solviet union
. But apparently they beat us but that's ok.
QUOTE(Kashmir @ Jun 9 2006, 12:03 AM)
sorry, 7-7 but you have proven your inability to speak on any subject. 3/4 of your posts that I have seen included nonsense evidence plus are off-topic half the time.
No one said being in space was faked, they say the landing was faked. This has completely nothing to do with the topic.
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Ouch kinda upfront no?
Lol. Think about why they would fake it, then think if they could have made it.
Why would they fake it?
-To get back at the Soveit Union. The two nations had missles aimed at each other at the time.
-To show the world that the US was the supreme nation.
-To make the hard broken workers of the US happy with the nation again.
Did they really go?
-They had the technoligy to send satelites (well, they arent exactly satelittes if they crash... :/ ) to the moon.
-They did have spaceships that could hold humans in them.
-They had cell phones.
The US had the technoligy to send people to the moon, but they also had reasons to fake it.
Well if they could have the same result by actually going to the moon and just faking it, why should they waste money on the real expedition?
But i still would like to think that the Moon landing was not faked, because there are stories about the transmission being cut off because of Astronauts talking about strange objects, and aliens.