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Report, edit, etc...Posted by linux_junkie on 2004-07-27 at 18:53:57
With the recent success of Tuxedo-Templars awesome new trailer, it's hard to not considering doing the same for my own maps that I'm working on. The question is, is it really worth doing, or should it be left for RPGs and such. I mean, can you imagine a defense map getting a trailer? It's a funny thought, actually. Come to think of it, I think it would be funny as hell to make a trailer to a defense map or a madness map. Give it a satirical twist tongue.gif . Anyways, what do you guys think?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lo[S]eR on 2004-07-27 at 18:57:38
only certain maps i guess.. like big maps youve been working on for like forever or something.. i guess it depends on the kind of map you're making.. but i dont think defenses or madnesses should have trailers.. madnesses only take about 10 min to make.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-07-27 at 19:10:08
Trailers are good...it shows your working on a map and it kinda looks like that...The Trailer...its just a piece of what ur actually making ._.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-07-27 at 19:14:11
Only some high quality map, (i dont really see a trailer about 2 marine killing a firebats...) For those map you can put screenshot...

The trailer of Tuxedo was... awesome really, but i think tuxedo is a great map maker... i dont really see a beginner do a trailer... jawdrop.gif

Only Great map need a trailer...

(ex: do you like to see a trailer of the game pong? or tetris? )
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xeno on 2004-07-27 at 19:18:31
Yet everyone agree's the Darkened trailer was the best... Correct?

Correct?

...Correct?

It's whoop-ass time.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by mobomojo on 2004-07-27 at 19:36:25
Trailer will go good IF it serves its purpose well, and thats to hype up your map, which will usually need to be a relatively big one, or an RPG.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SaLaCiouS(U) on 2004-07-27 at 20:04:22
You can make a trailer for anything, even a defense map. Here's how it would go...

Scene 1
-Soft music plays, only when text shows- (Text is l33tly displayed somehow)
[The Screen is black, then text appears]
"You've defended bases..."
[Scene shows a terran base being attacked by zergies!]
"You've defended enemies in Matrixes..."
[Show a matrix map as your units are overwhelmed and mauled]
"And now... you defend *Insert Latest Defense Idea*]

Scene 2
-Wicked music starts up-
[Shows people getting owned by recent map idea]
Newb screams "OMG!!`11!~!!"
[Someone selects a powerup...]
Unreal 2k4 Announcer voice says "Last Second Save"

Scene 3
"Can you hope to defend long enough?"
Newb: "L1K3 0mG 1+Z G3++1n F4S+4!!!"
[Tons of units attack]
[Leaderboard kills skyrocket]
[Speed reaches orgasmic levels... then the screen goes black]

Scene 4
"*Latest Map Idea*"
"Coming *Next Holiday*"
"Catchy phrase people will remember about your map"

So anyway time to make my trailer for "Building Defense", the Defense that pits you against StarCraft's most unused and yet DEADLY units.. the buildings! huahaha!1~11``!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2004-07-27 at 20:48:17
Newb: "L1K3 0mG 1+Z G3++1n F4S+4!!!"

isn't hat how you typed when you were being gay and 1337?


trailers are really stupid for maps -_- espcially if you have something like a devleopment thread in a forum where everyone knows about it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SaLaCiouS(U) on 2004-07-27 at 20:53:29
CheeZe the trailer is an awesome idea. Every map needs a trailer. I should go make trailers for "Don't Click the Flag" and maybe even the "Don't Click the Middle Mouse Button" idea. I think you should make a trailer for FFT. I think we should all be making trailers for every map because no map is too insignificant to not warrant a trailer. Ok I'm being sarcastic.

PS: L33TAzn says "Gg j00 suxx0rz m4 d1xx b1+ch3z!!!"
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xeno on 2004-07-27 at 21:02:46
QUOTE(CheeZe(U))
trailers are really stupid for maps -_- espcially if you have something like a devleopment thread in a forum where everyone knows about it.


cry.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SaLaCiouS(U) on 2004-07-27 at 21:04:09
Xeno I have never even seen your trailer or heard anyone talk about it, but you talk about it like it's the most GoSu trailer ever. Where can I get it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2004-07-27 at 21:08:09
QUOTE(Xeno(U) @ Jul 27 2004, 08:02 PM)
QUOTE(CheeZe(U))
trailers are really stupid for maps -_- espcially if you have something like a devleopment thread in a forum where everyone knows about it.


cry.gif

LOL

anyway whats the point of a trailer? to show what the map is about (which is why sala is pissed about it being called a trailer or other crap). whats the point of a development thread? to tell what the map is about. you can include screenshots to help describe what you mean. the two are the same but having both is just a waste of time making one of them
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xeno on 2004-07-27 at 21:08:11
...I don't want you to see it now, because you're gonna make fun of it no matter what, since you're a mean hearted... mean... guy... I don't think you're that bright ethier, look in the signature, Einstein. tongue.gif

Silent liked it... Silent really liked it... maybe he's just trying to get to my man-flesh, who knows?

Trailers are only good for maps that are going to be long projects... LONG PROJECTS... I rule out Defenses, Bounds, and dumb little maps like that since they can be made in like just a few days, what's the point of that? I plan on working on darkened very long... very very censored.gif ing long. To the point of... not knowing if it will ever be done...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-07-27 at 21:26:12
Hum... Salacious... you are saying the truth! If moogle, zombie, vala's, Xeno and Tuxedo can! I can too! ... i try at least... drunk.gif

Hum... now a story...: it was a black bunny...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xeno on 2004-07-27 at 21:30:35
Actually Moogle made the first trailer... followed by Zombie's (Which was a total rip of moogle's wink.gif), Mine and Vala's (Which was the pwnZeR), and then Tux's (Can you say "Lame"?... Just kidding don't hurt me, Tux)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by linux_junkie on 2004-07-27 at 21:30:57
Wow, a lot of you guys are giving trailers an awful lot of flack (even though nobody voted no, lol). I actually think making a trailer for a defense map would be hilarious, if done right. If the trailer is long enough, in my opinion it doubles as a movie map. And a funny defense map trailer would be well worth the download, I think. I mean, if you can make a funny movie map, and plug your new map at the same time, why not? In fact, I'm tempted to start a D map just to have an excuse to make a trailer for it, lol.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2004-07-27 at 21:47:59
Too lazy to read whole thread... I think that you only make trailer if your map is really high-quality. Otherwise, iut make your map be anticipated, and then it's not so good when it comes out.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Moogle on 2004-07-27 at 21:50:46
My trailer was to a RPG Single Player Campaign, Zombies was to a Call of duty (gah), Valahan n Xeno to horror map & tux one to his upcoming rpg A&O.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2004-07-27 at 22:11:29
QUOTE(Xeno(U) @ Jul 27 2004, 08:02 PM)
QUOTE(CheeZe(U))
trailers are really stupid for maps -_- espcially if you have something like a devleopment thread in a forum where everyone knows about it.


cry.gif

Xeno, that post is considered spam. It adds no content to the conversation, please do not do it again.

I voted no with exception. Trailer maps should be veiwed as movie maps, I belive that few maps need any trailer, because most people's would suck. Creating an emotion for the players is difficult, like horror maps, A trailer map trys to give the players the feeling of desire (to play the map). If the mapmaker cannot achive this goal the result is more than likely going to be pure crap.

I think a trailer for a defence map could be a funny and good idea, if done right. You don't even have actually create the map your advertiseing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Nozomu on 2004-07-28 at 00:03:08
I think trailers are pointless wastes of time. People should just focus on making a good map, without caring about publicity and crap like that. Sure, Tux's trailer was cool, but that's no excuse for everyone and their mom to go around making trailers of their maps. Just try to make good maps.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SiLeNT(U) on 2004-07-28 at 00:17:03
I think trailers are really stupid, getting everyone excited for a map, that may never even be finished, sure I like to watch them, but I think it's a waste of time, time you could be using to finish your actual map.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HA-CurSe on 2004-07-28 at 10:22:28
QUOTE(SaLaCiouS(U) @ Jul 27 2004, 07:04 PM)
You can make a trailer for anything, even a defense map. Here's how it would go...

Scene 1
-Soft music plays, only when text shows- (Text is l33tly displayed somehow)
[The Screen is black, then text appears]
"You've defended bases..."
[Scene shows a terran base being attacked by zergies!]
"You've defended enemies in Matrixes..."
[Show a matrix map as your units are overwhelmed and mauled]
"And now... you defend *Insert Latest Defense Idea*]

Scene 2
-Wicked music starts up-
[Shows people getting owned by recent map idea]
Newb screams "OMG!!`11!~!!"
[Someone selects a powerup...]
Unreal 2k4 Announcer voice says "Last Second Save"

Scene 3
"Can you hope to defend long enough?"
Newb: "L1K3 0mG 1+Z G3++1n F4S+4!!!"
[Tons of units attack]
[Leaderboard kills skyrocket]
[Speed reaches orgasmic levels... then the screen goes black]

Scene 4
"*Latest Map Idea*"
"Coming *Next Holiday*"
"Catchy phrase people will remember about your map"

So anyway time to make my trailer for "Building Defense", the Defense that pits you against StarCraft's most unused and yet DEADLY units.. the buildings! huahaha!1~11``!!

damn your hyper but thats a cool idea a trailer for a d3f3ns3 map its pretty 1337z0rz
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Bringer on 2004-07-28 at 10:59:05
Trailers for maps just waste time that could be used towards the map sure 2hrs for a trailer or less may not seem like much but for an RPG like map that could have been another sub-quest set up and everything. Plus what if you make a trailer but never finish ur map..... That would be bad. Movies and Video Games like Halo2 deserve trailers but maps for SC dont. Thats just my 2cents.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2004-07-28 at 12:29:25
QUOTE(Xeno(U) @ Jul 27 2004, 08:02 PM)
QUOTE(CheeZe(U))
trailers are really stupid for maps -_- espcially if you have something like a devleopment thread in a forum where everyone knows about it.


cry.gif

i think that he got his point accross that hes sad.

now for my input, trailers do add a special element (vague) to the map, ive never even heard of the fact that tux was makin A&O saga, but after seeing the trailer, i want to play the game, or at least help test it. No i dont think that they should be used for bounds, defenses, madnesses, and little 1 hour maps. The defense trailer of course could be done once, but thats it, just once. Long RPG's deserve trailer maps, but only if your going to be done with it very soon, because you dont want people waiting and extra 3 months because of bugs not planned when you started. Adding a trailer sets a due date, i suppose thats good for planning and urging yourself to finish it, but if you're way behind, it will hurt you.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xeno on 2004-07-28 at 13:27:31
Anyway, I don't really think of the trailer of Darkened as a waste of my time, since Valahan and I always had the intention that the trailer was a type of Prolouge, so it serves a kind of purpose... I guess.

Also I was gonna make a parody of a defense map trailer that made fun of SaLaCiOuS, but then I realized how lazy I am.

QUOTE((U)Bolt_Head)
Creating an emotion for the players is difficult, like horror maps, A trailer map trys to give the players the feeling of desire (to play the map). If the mapmaker cannot achive this goal the result is more than likely going to be pure crap.


Also Bolt, did you take the time to watch it? It's only like 5 minutes long... =/ By the way, calling my little frowny spam was nice, way to moderate! thumbup.gif
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