Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-07-02 at 00:30:28
I finally took some time to update this age-old classic.
Version 028b
» Heroes have been corrected. You can use heroes other than Infested Terrans now.
» The beacon is now a Templar to Archon beacon, working for both High and Dark Templar.
Version 028
» The building placement no longer sucks. Scrolling to build Zerg was stupid and a thing of the past. Say hello to an organized and standardized building placement.
» Moving your overlords into the transport area? I wouldn't try it or you'll lose them all.
» Got some hack that gives you a refinery so you can mine gas for nukes? Don't bother using it.
» Warbringer was a lame hero. Let me introduce the Infested Kerrigan.
score changes.
» 600 minerals for an Archon? Screw that. Check out the spiffy Templar to Archon beacon in the prep area for 100 minerals.
» Terrain has been modified a bit. Suicide zone is further out.
» Screwed up your first build of the game? You can now cancel it.
» Sick of those ugly upgrade icons on your other buildings? Level 2 is the default and max now.
» Double death bug screwing up your games? You can only die once now.
» A score system has been implemented to scale down higher value units. IE, a Mutalisk used to be worth 600, but now is 400. A Zergling however, is still 50. You'll figure it out. Expensive units are less devastating to lose in battle now.
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?download=5241
Version 028b
» Heroes have been corrected. You can use heroes other than Infested Terrans now.
» The beacon is now a Templar to Archon beacon, working for both High and Dark Templar.
Version 028
» The building placement no longer sucks. Scrolling to build Zerg was stupid and a thing of the past. Say hello to an organized and standardized building placement.
» Moving your overlords into the transport area? I wouldn't try it or you'll lose them all.
» Got some hack that gives you a refinery so you can mine gas for nukes? Don't bother using it.
» Warbringer was a lame hero. Let me introduce the Infested Kerrigan.
score changes.
» 600 minerals for an Archon? Screw that. Check out the spiffy Templar to Archon beacon in the prep area for 100 minerals.
» Terrain has been modified a bit. Suicide zone is further out.
» Screwed up your first build of the game? You can now cancel it.
» Sick of those ugly upgrade icons on your other buildings? Level 2 is the default and max now.
» Double death bug screwing up your games? You can only die once now.
» A score system has been implemented to scale down higher value units. IE, a Mutalisk used to be worth 600, but now is 400. A Zergling however, is still 50. You'll figure it out. Expensive units are less devastating to lose in battle now.
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?download=5241
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Urmom(U) on 2006-07-02 at 00:41:01
This map pwns, is this the one that you hosted yesterday or did you update it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sicarul on 2006-07-02 at 00:46:17
This is one of the only few maps i really love sooo much...
Will try it when i want to
Will try it when i want to
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-07-02 at 00:54:32
Yeah, I think I did update it since the copy I gave you. Download it again just to make sure.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2006-07-02 at 01:21:04
QUOTE
Warbringer was a lame hero. Let me introduce the Infested Kerrigan.
OMGOMGOMG!!!Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2006-07-02 at 01:30:31
Played it before. Just a bug-fixed-version really. I agree Warbringer was useless. Cheap archons makes them a lot more useful.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Screwed on 2006-07-02 at 04:10:25
W00t. I wana try this out noww
Report, edit, etc...Posted by sirlala on 2006-07-02 at 06:43:16
hey big fan of the map here.
amazing how many other people here love the map yet i have so much trouble starting games, if you like the map and are on east you've probably seen me hosting before
just wanted to say is the late game is a bit lacking sometimes when everyone has 3000 minerals and it becomes a counter map.
they have tanks i get mutas so they get goliaths so i get goons so they get... etc.
when it reaches this point there is very little micro left and it is more bland than near the start of the game.
the way points work they amount of units you create increases exponentially till it gets ridiculous and you just spam the counterattack unit until you are out of cash and unload ghost to save ur overmind.
if there were slower mineral ugprades near the start it would prolong the micro section of the game. (anyone else feel early game>late game by far?)
alsooooooo... if you are thinking 600 is too much for archon might want to make a similiar change for DA since so few people use it
also no one ever builds with miners because it's so weak(give us a mineral stack so we can use it as a tool for miner micro??
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amazing how many other people here love the map yet i have so much trouble starting games, if you like the map and are on east you've probably seen me hosting before
just wanted to say is the late game is a bit lacking sometimes when everyone has 3000 minerals and it becomes a counter map.
they have tanks i get mutas so they get goliaths so i get goons so they get... etc.
when it reaches this point there is very little micro left and it is more bland than near the start of the game.
the way points work they amount of units you create increases exponentially till it gets ridiculous and you just spam the counterattack unit until you are out of cash and unload ghost to save ur overmind.
if there were slower mineral ugprades near the start it would prolong the micro section of the game. (anyone else feel early game>late game by far?)
alsooooooo... if you are thinking 600 is too much for archon might want to make a similiar change for DA since so few people use it
also no one ever builds with miners because it's so weak(give us a mineral stack so we can use it as a tool for miner micro??
)Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-07-02 at 07:59:01
Probes=Cannons
SCV=Repair
Drone=nothing good at all
Hooray! Now if I could only find someone to play with.
SCV=Repair
Drone=nothing good at all
Hooray! Now if I could only find someone to play with.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n0b0dy- on 2006-07-02 at 11:21:39
Another victory for moose! Good job with these much needed improvements.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-07-02 at 16:10:48
There's creep on the sides of the map.
The Vespene Geysers are there for stack attack with workers.
People don't use DAs? HAHA. You don't play with the people I do. But yeah, I should include that on the beacon too.
Yeah, late game becomes too much massing. I have made another version where you lose 10% score on every death and your score after that determines your mineral amount. Surprisingly, it isn't so great because its a perpetual early game. When I get that adjusted there's going to be two paths, Uberena Modern and Uberena Classic.
The Vespene Geysers are there for stack attack with workers.
People don't use DAs? HAHA. You don't play with the people I do. But yeah, I should include that on the beacon too.
Yeah, late game becomes too much massing. I have made another version where you lose 10% score on every death and your score after that determines your mineral amount. Surprisingly, it isn't so great because its a perpetual early game. When I get that adjusted there's going to be two paths, Uberena Modern and Uberena Classic.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-07-02 at 17:09:18
[attachmentid=19760]You could fix this bug, it cost me a 2v1 uberena game. But then again purp sucked.
I probably would have won if i hadn't been eating the entire time.
I probably would have won if i hadn't been eating the entire time.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zell.Dincht on 2006-07-02 at 17:33:35
Woot, this map is awsome! Gonna need to play this one.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-07-02 at 23:56:03
I don't see what the bug is there, there's no reason your Overmind shouldn't have healed.
EDIT: Found the problem. New version out soon.
EDIT: Found the problem. New version out soon.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-07-03 at 01:02:05
How do you do the stacking bug with the SCVs, Probes, or Drones.
Meh.. sounds better. I say healing should cost 3 DTs. Or at least something like that.. because people heal way too often.
Meh.. sounds better. I say healing should cost 3 DTs. Or at least something like that.. because people heal way too often.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-07-03 at 01:20:34
Critical update out. Grab it now.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Merrell on 2006-07-03 at 01:23:25
You grab a group of peons, hold in shift, right click the vespene geyser, then while still holding in shift and before the peons reach the geyser, command the peons to repair for stack repairage, or attack somewhere and they will stack kill anything in their path. You gotta be quick though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-07-03 at 01:24:59
Fixed, again. Saved in wrong editor. -_-
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2006-07-03 at 03:06:57
One small bug is when you are using drones to build sunkens/spores, if you use your last drone all of the 'colonies' dissapear.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodle77(MM) on 2006-07-03 at 05:10:42
Yay! new version!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Screwed on 2006-07-03 at 05:32:02
lol i played it and the heal didn't work. I don't know if that was the bug fixed tho
Report, edit, etc...Posted by sirlala on 2006-07-03 at 22:18:18
QUOTE(Mini Moose 2707 @ Jul 2 2006, 03:10 PM)
There's creep on the sides of the map.
The Vespene Geysers are there for stack attack with workers.
People don't use DAs? HAHA. You don't play with the people I do. But yeah, I should include that on the beacon too.
Yeah, late game becomes too much massing. I have made another version where you lose 10% score on every death and your score after that determines your mineral amount. Surprisingly, it isn't so great because its a perpetual early game. When I get that adjusted there's going to be two paths, Uberena Modern and Uberena Classic.
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The Vespene Geysers are there for stack attack with workers.
People don't use DAs? HAHA. You don't play with the people I do. But yeah, I should include that on the beacon too.
Yeah, late game becomes too much massing. I have made another version where you lose 10% score on every death and your score after that determines your mineral amount. Surprisingly, it isn't so great because its a perpetual early game. When I get that adjusted there's going to be two paths, Uberena Modern and Uberena Classic.
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stack attack with workers is only fun if u can make a pretty stack with minerals so they all close together. mineral would also allow you to retreat with mineral walk and not get blocked.
i use DA's usually only early game since later you'll lose too much in points and im too lazy to mix DA with goons or other stuff.
also if a magic unit is loaded into a transport and then zoned into the arena it won't get it's starting mana, sometimes i forget and i'm like wtf my mana go and i die.
if you do decide to make an uberena that focuses more on micro, greatly reducing the overminds hp would be helpful though that would require other changes i kno with nuke etc. but it would never end with 2 goons winning a battle and then getting shots on the current overmind hp. also arena size could be reduced if it were to stay in an 'early-game' state.
i really like the 10% idea cuz that punishes ppl who suicide their mutas after they kill ur tanks etc.
tho 10% might be too much of a percentage and also being a percentage it punishes the winner by docking them much more of their points on a death than the amount the low scorer would be docked.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sicarul on 2006-07-03 at 23:18:48
Well you can make a Uberena V.Mini, and there do what sirlala says... the 10% idea isn't nice for me... but some ~1-5% wouldn't be that bad...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2006-07-04 at 12:41:46
QUOTE(wesmic da pimp @ Jul 3 2006, 02:06 AM)
One small bug is when you are using drones to build sunkens/spores, if you use your last drone all of the 'colonies' dissapear.
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Ya, that sucked.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-07-04 at 12:44:44
Its either that or you just get left there and can't suicide. But hey, I've got a way around this planned already, so don't worry. 