Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-07-23 at 10:30:34
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StarCraft: All out Warfare
A modified melee map.
Progress
-Ideas
•Pretty much done, but suggestions are welcome
-Terrain
•5%
-Unit placement
•Not Started
-Triggers
•10%
-Overall
•3%
Specifications
-Players
•6 players, 1 or 2 computers
-Map tileset
•Jungle
-Map size
•196x196
Storyline / Introduction
Each team of 2 players has their own individual goals. You are racing each other to complete your goals before the other player.
Features
-Player Interface
Playing the game depends on which race you are.
Zerg- Zerg players will add new units to build when they kill some. For example, killing a few marines will allow you to build infested terrans. The ultimate goal for the zerg is to destroy all the other players.
Terran- The terran players are trying to place an Ion Cannon in the middle of the map. After the cannon has been constructed, it will takes some time to activate. After the cannon has activated, the terran players win.
Protoss- The protoss players are trying to find the two randomly placed crystals. After both have been found, they are to be brought to the Xel'Naga temple. The protoss player wins.
-What's new in your map that others have not done before?
•The race specific goals, and the zerg playing style.
Screenshots / Demo
None yet.
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Latest update: I've done some of the terran players starting area as well as some resource placement.
Old updates: Cannon system is done Has not been checked for bugs, but it is theoretically bugless. Terrain started.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sicarul on 2006-07-23 at 10:34:50
Good luck on the map, seems like a pretty good idea, as long as you do it unglitchy...(and balanced)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-07-23 at 10:37:44
Balancing is going to be hard. Lots of play testing should let me find out what needs balancing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HorroR on 2006-07-23 at 12:41:03
Here's a suggestion: If it's randomly placed crystals, make it far away from the Protoss, or near the Zerg/Terrans.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Desperado on 2006-07-23 at 14:04:22
Perhaps put the crystals inside the Zerg/Terran bases.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2006-07-23 at 14:22:55
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Here's a suggestion: If it's randomly placed crystals, make it far away from the Protoss, or near the Zerg/Terrans.
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QUOTE(Desperado @ Jul 23 2006, 02:04 PM)
Perhaps put the crystals inside the Zerg/Terran bases.
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Those two ideas mean that the Protoss will have to play like the Zerg (offensive) but also play like Terran to defend their temple (defensive).
Ducky, make sure you put a lot of effort balancing things out!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-07-23 at 14:48:07
The extra computer player is designed to protect the crystal. It's going to have several bases, and will have a decent AI.
I will. That's why I'm going to get lots of testers.
Note: Don't ask to be a tester. I don't need them yet, I'll ask for them when I'm ready.
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Ducky, make sure you put a lot of effort balancing things out!
I will. That's why I'm going to get lots of testers.
Note: Don't ask to be a tester. I don't need them yet, I'll ask for them when I'm ready.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2006-07-23 at 18:44:39
QUOTE(dumbducky @ Jul 23 2006, 02:47 PM)
The extra computer player is designed to protect the crystal. It's going to have several bases, and will have a decent AI.
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"Decent AI" is a conflict of terms in SC.
Can I be a tester?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-07-23 at 18:47:04
NO!
By decent, I meant they'll defend themselves. And the AI's skill is all relative to the player. I myself have fallen into a lapse of no melee. My melee skill is back to suck. The computers are as good as me.
By decent, I meant they'll defend themselves. And the AI's skill is all relative to the player. I myself have fallen into a lapse of no melee. My melee skill is back to suck. The computers are as good as me.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HorroR on 2006-07-23 at 19:02:50
QUOTE(PCFredZ @ Jul 23 2006, 05:44 PM)
"Decent AI" is a conflict of terms in SC.
Can I be a tester?
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Bad Fred, look at the post above you
Can I be a tester when you need one?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Filleinconnue on 2006-07-23 at 19:18:15
I might just play it
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-07-23 at 20:34:20
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Latest update: Cannon system is done Has not been checked for bugs, but it is theoretically bugless. Terrain started.
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Can I be a tester when you need one?
NO!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sicarul on 2006-07-23 at 21:01:58
Then... can I be a tester?[/evil]
I suck at melee too but not THAT much as computers :s
I suck at melee too
but not THAT much as computers :sReport, edit, etc...Posted by Who-the-hell-ru on 2006-07-24 at 04:02:42
Altered SC! Fun map, but the balance was bad since zerg owned everyone when I played it.
Good Luck with the map!
(I'm a good melee player! )
Good Luck with the map!
(I'm a good melee player!
)Report, edit, etc...Posted by 00cnr on 2006-07-24 at 10:14:17
When you say that when the zerg units kill enemies and they then are able to make new units, like Infested Terran, does that mean that without killing a zerg player wouldn't be able to build basic units like Hydralisks?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-07-24 at 10:18:37
No. The zerg will be able to build all of their units. They will be able to buy more units after they kill more men. If the zerg player kills, say ten, dark templars, they will then be able to purchase weakened dark templars.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sicarul on 2006-07-24 at 10:52:21
QUOTE(dumbducky @ Jul 24 2006, 11:18 AM)
No. The zerg will be able to build all of their units. They will be able to buy more units after they kill more men. If the zerg player kills, say ten, dark templars, they will then be able to purchase weakened dark templars.
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That's cool, they like... capture units =O
Report, edit, etc...Posted by AshaMeD on 2006-07-24 at 11:16:25
yah it sounds like it could be fun but... Balance is what i want to see like protoss it seems has it pretty easy all they do is have to find crystals ><!! But good luck!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-07-24 at 11:54:19
The crystals will be hidden in enemy bases, and the Xel'Naga temple will be destroyable. So, no temple means there objective changes to regular melee.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by AshaMeD on 2006-07-24 at 12:56:08
aright... If they will be in your enemys bases... then it seems that it would be harder then all the rest ><! Because like for terran all they do is need to bring a crap load of units to the middle and protect the cannon... and they win!! See im not trying to make this hard on you.. But ><!! It would really suck if 1 race was ezier!! then the other!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-07-24 at 13:00:54
In order to build the Ion Cannon, you have to build 3 Science Facilities in the Ion Cannon spot. After it is constructed, you have to wait five minutes for it to charge up. After the charging is complete, game over. It's a lot more balanced than you think. Theoretically. I still have to test it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Richan on 2006-07-24 at 13:01:08
How are the Terrans gonna build up the Ion Cannon?
EDIT: Nevermind my question, the answer popped up just after posting!
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EDIT: Nevermind my question, the answer popped up just after posting!
UReport, edit, etc...Posted by AshaMeD on 2006-07-24 at 13:08:57
lol... I would love to test this ><!! When its testable i like these kind of maps melee/ums! ><!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KABOOM on 2006-07-24 at 13:17:48
i can take on like 4 comps maybe 5 so can i be a tester plz!!!!! this is rly interesting to me 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)EnderDouble on 2006-07-25 at 02:27:02
I think the terrans might be bored.. nobody wants to play a melee where all they do is kill a few units and build science facilitys and sit around and wait. And, i think altogether it would be bad, because it would be really hard to stop the protoss from retreiving these crystals, because you have to let all your hope rely on those computers (Which arent very good). The zerg sounds awsome, but it will be harder for them, unless their units are really strong. because by the time zerg has killed terran, the protoss will probably have their crystals. And if they go after protoss first, the terran will probably have their cannon.
Perhaps you shouldnt make the Xel Naga, and the Cannon make them INSTANTLY win, you should just make it weaken the enemy alot, but leave them with a very small chance.
Perhaps you shouldnt make the Xel Naga, and the Cannon make them INSTANTLY win, you should just make it weaken the enemy alot, but leave them with a very small chance.