Report, edit, etc...Posted by SooP on 2004-07-31 at 09:37:32
well the description on the forums was concepts and ideas, so guess what i had an idea, i didnt read anywhere else or found anything to i decided to suggest a freehand drawing contest of sumsort. i think it would be pretty cool if the best d00ds drew good images using an editor, iunno tell me what ya think....also bmp2ssm cant be used 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-07-31 at 13:32:13
i drew ness freehand once... he looks so awesome 
ill post it in the dl section (incomplete though) "___Bound"
ill post it in the dl section (incomplete though) "___Bound"
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SooP on 2004-07-31 at 18:23:28
im glad some1 replied to me, for that i thank you.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2004-07-31 at 21:07:35
I don't think my caprice map counts as free hand even though i didn't use BMP2SCM.
I used SCM Draft 1, GUedit, MS Paint, and Adobe Photoshop. (it took a long time)
PS. I think i should win cause i started the mini map picture fad.
I used SCM Draft 1, GUedit, MS Paint, and Adobe Photoshop. (it took a long time)
PS. I think i should win cause i started the mini map picture fad.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SooP on 2004-08-01 at 09:55:10
where can i get that map? i would have to see it to tell if ur good, i know ur maps, u dont suck, but i never saw it (cant say anything). u started it? cool, i liked trice's dojo and hip hop pictures, i dunno if they were bmped tho
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2004-08-01 at 12:26:41
there IS a map called Drawing Contest, i play it sometime and rule all others... it's almost unfair, just cuz i can draw garfield with pylons lol...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2004-08-01 at 16:21:46
I think they're referring to terrain pics...
No, I'm not very good at it. I don't wanna bother using BMP2SCM because that does the easy part. Bleh.
Anyways, I'd be better, if Starforge's minimap correctly reprensted the tile colors used in the SC minimap.
Like I made a sword once, and it was actualy kinda cool, with a bright blue edge, but in SC it looked liked a wood or stone sword, still good, just not as cool.
Wanna see it? As with my true drawing wiht pencil, I'm best at doing things like drawing weapons(suck at portraits, people, animals, etc).
No, I'm not very good at it. I don't wanna bother using BMP2SCM because that does the easy part. Bleh.
Anyways, I'd be better, if Starforge's minimap correctly reprensted the tile colors used in the SC minimap.
Like I made a sword once, and it was actualy kinda cool, with a bright blue edge, but in SC it looked liked a wood or stone sword, still good, just not as cool.
Wanna see it? As with my true drawing wiht pencil, I'm best at doing things like drawing weapons(suck at portraits, people, animals, etc).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2004-08-01 at 16:48:54
Here are a few threads in the past about this sort of stuff.
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=2472
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=2322
No actually The bounds did it first and they copied off of me. I not meaning to be "self helping" but it isn't really debateable if you know the facts.
A quite a while ago (before all the bounds had to have pictures) (before starforges first release) I created a map called "Caprice" Witch is an intire map just dedicated to a picture. It was in reality a "sexy picture" map but it doesn't have nudity.
Anyways shortly after I released that and it began to be spread around the circle of mapmakers around me, it also took screen-shot-of-the-month on trickznstuff.net, Bounds started being released thats main feature was the mini map image some of the first ones were the Rurouni Kenshin Bounds. When this trend was at its high Vangaurd[T] decided he was going to make a program that specificly converts a bitmap to starcraft terrain. After he finished it He created 10 "sexy picture" maps witch are the ones your refering too. Those of course spread like wildfire as for 13 year old children could get free porn all around the world while playing there favorate game (what would you expect).
I have actually started numberous things some more debateable than others.
For your own ammusement, or proof if you will, I have attached the map. It isn't as good as the pictures created with BMP2SCM but keep in mind it was created using SCM Draft 1.0 with is Way-Less-Than-Perfect copy and paist feature. Note: Its best veiwed in starcraft.
PS. You can download the map from the second link.
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=2472
QUOTE(Valahan @ the above link)
Not many people really care if the person made the "picture map" by hand or by bmp2scm anymore. The map usually gets looked at for about a minute before never being created every again. Talk about a waste of time(nowadays) to simply have your map looked at for 2 minutes if you've done it by hand.
In the past, when (U)Bolt_Head made his Caprice map by hand, now that was something worth the attention. It was totally new and most people were amazed. Now, you see it everywhere.
If you want to waste your time making a pic for a few hours by hand, then by all means go ahead.
I like to keep my "real" drawing skills on paper, using various pencils(H1-H6,HB,B1-B6) or whatever other pencils I can get my hand on. I've also done some with a blue, black, or red pen(or a combination thereof).
If you want to Draw on the computer, get yourself one of those "Art Pencil Pads", i'm not sure what they are called exactly, but it lets you draw directly onto a "paper" in a program such as Photoshop 7. Or you could do it by hand then scan it.
In the past, when (U)Bolt_Head made his Caprice map by hand, now that was something worth the attention. It was totally new and most people were amazed. Now, you see it everywhere.
If you want to waste your time making a pic for a few hours by hand, then by all means go ahead.
I like to keep my "real" drawing skills on paper, using various pencils(H1-H6,HB,B1-B6) or whatever other pencils I can get my hand on. I've also done some with a blue, black, or red pen(or a combination thereof).
If you want to Draw on the computer, get yourself one of those "Art Pencil Pads", i'm not sure what they are called exactly, but it lets you draw directly onto a "paper" in a program such as Photoshop 7. Or you could do it by hand then scan it.
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=2322
QUOTE( Bolt_Head @ 2nd page the above link)
QUOTE(Coko @ May 23 2004, 11:45 AM)
What is up with this self-helping attitude present here at the moment?
I think the minimap trend was most started and powered by those "pron" pictures, people love them...
I think the minimap trend was most started and powered by those "pron" pictures, people love them...
No actually The bounds did it first and they copied off of me. I not meaning to be "self helping" but it isn't really debateable if you know the facts.
A quite a while ago (before all the bounds had to have pictures) (before starforges first release) I created a map called "Caprice" Witch is an intire map just dedicated to a picture. It was in reality a "sexy picture" map but it doesn't have nudity.
Anyways shortly after I released that and it began to be spread around the circle of mapmakers around me, it also took screen-shot-of-the-month on trickznstuff.net, Bounds started being released thats main feature was the mini map image some of the first ones were the Rurouni Kenshin Bounds. When this trend was at its high Vangaurd[T] decided he was going to make a program that specificly converts a bitmap to starcraft terrain. After he finished it He created 10 "sexy picture" maps witch are the ones your refering too. Those of course spread like wildfire as for 13 year old children could get free porn all around the world while playing there favorate game (what would you expect).
I have actually started numberous things some more debateable than others.
For your own ammusement, or proof if you will, I have attached the map. It isn't as good as the pictures created with BMP2SCM but keep in mind it was created using SCM Draft 1.0 with is Way-Less-Than-Perfect copy and paist feature. Note: Its best veiwed in starcraft.
PS. You can download the map from the second link.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Clokr_ on 2004-08-01 at 18:28:16
You had to do a lot of work for make that map lol
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SooP on 2004-08-02 at 06:50:08
hey, this is for learning to right? i was just wondering exactly how u used paint and photoshop to make that pic, was it just to look off of or what? cause it was pretty dang good for a free hand lol
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2004-08-02 at 11:24:13
I used a image i found off the internet, I used photoshop to convert the image to 4 differant colors and to shink it so it was as many pixels in size as the map was in tiles.
Then i used MS Paint because when you zoom in 800% you can really easly see the individual pixels and if you hold your mouse over them it gives you the corrdinates of them.
I then toggled applications from MS Paint to SCM Draft 1 copying the image pixel by pixel.
Then i used MS Paint because when you zoom in 800% you can really easly see the individual pixels and if you hold your mouse over them it gives you the corrdinates of them.
I then toggled applications from MS Paint to SCM Draft 1 copying the image pixel by pixel.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-08-02 at 11:32:53
I think Red2Blue is the best freehand drawer that could be found.
I've never seen a map with better drawn terrain/pictures on it,
even though all he makes are bounds he's really good. i'd rate him 10/10.
I've never seen a map with better drawn terrain/pictures on it,
even though all he makes are bounds he's really good. i'd rate him 10/10.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloak(U) on 2004-08-02 at 13:09:02
QUOTE(Pr0- @ Aug 2 2004, 10:32 AM)
I think Red2Blue is the best freehand drawer that could be found.
I've never seen a map with better drawn terrain/pictures on it,
even though all he makes are bounds he's really good. i'd rate him 10/10.
I've never seen a map with better drawn terrain/pictures on it,
even though all he makes are bounds he's really good. i'd rate him 10/10.
Yes red2blue is good but Thrice] is too
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SooP on 2004-08-02 at 16:27:44
if thrice is free hand ill have to give him a :punk: rock on that rules, ive red2blue's cound and they ARE pretty nice also.
"I then toggled applications from MS Paint to SCM Draft 1" im lost lol
"I then toggled applications from MS Paint to SCM Draft 1" im lost lol
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Clokr_ on 2004-08-02 at 18:28:01
Any screenshots of their maps? 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SooP on 2004-08-02 at 20:21:03
not of thrices, but if they arent in dl section i can add them, i think i can right?
SWEET we have made another page w00t lol
SWEET we have made another page w00t lol
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2004-08-02 at 23:16:40
QUOTE(SooP @ Aug 2 2004, 03:27 PM)
if thrice is free hand ill have to give him a :punk: rock on that rules, ive red2blue's cound and they ARE pretty nice also.
"I then toggled applications from MS Paint to SCM Draft 1" im lost lol
"I then toggled applications from MS Paint to SCM Draft 1" im lost lol
Uhh how do i explain this. . . .
Step 1. Look at a pixel in MS Paint (note the coordiantes of that pixel)
Step 2. Note the color of that pixel
Step 3. Switch to SCM Draft 1
Step 4. Select the Tile that resembles that pixels color
Step 5. Find the same coordinate place in the SC map and place that tile
Step 6. Repeat Steps 1-5 12,287 times until you have copied every pixel.
And if that doesn't sound like a pain in the but, get out SCM draft ONE and observe how crappy the copy and paist feature is.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SooP on 2004-08-03 at 06:36:25
sounds like a BIG pain in the butt
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Clokr_ on 2004-08-03 at 07:54:56
You could use GUEdit, but it was slow as hell in my computer.
EDIT: Also you could have used scmd1 beta. It allowed you to select a subtile from a terrain type and put it.
EDIT: Also you could have used scmd1 beta. It allowed you to select a subtile from a terrain type and put it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Red2Blue on 2004-08-03 at 21:28:33
Actually, i dont look at pixels when i draw a picture free hand, i just draw using the scmdraft... its not that hard, and it saves time... btw, maps that are within 128x128 are the only sized maps that can be used with bmp... i make my maps 96x96, which means theres no way that the map could have been used with bmp... so don't say that i use bmp, or methods of using bmp... ive never used that program before... nor have i been able to .... -.- (thanks anyway Rexy)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2004-08-03 at 22:24:09
QUOTE(Red2Blue @ Aug 3 2004, 08:28 PM)
btw, maps that are within 128x128 are the only sized maps that can be used with bmp... i make my maps 96x96, which means theres no way that the map could have been used with bmp
That just proves you don't know what your talking about. With a little creativity you can use BMP2SCM for any sized map.