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Have you ever noticed RTC will always have a good fanbase, but some FPSs just, well don't make the cut?

Dude.. We all know u are.. A Purepwnage fan... But lol... I dont know wat u are talking about.. FPS can be as fun also.. Ever play CS?? half life 2... Both the games OwN!! and... If RTS.. Is better then FPS.. why is there like 10-50... Games out a year for FPS... and like 2 for RTS.. Hrrrrm that might be a hint saying oooh our money is in making FPS.. not RTS! i mean wat was that last RTS?!

Asha: What did you just say?

</offtopic> Nayed: I assume you mean RTS? Real Time Strategy? Never heard of RTC, so I'll assume they're the same thing. I will respond like you said RTS.

I believe that the reason RTS games stick around longer is that, well, there's only so much you can do with an FPS. You run and shoot stuff. Weapons and level design are pretty much all you can change between FPS's.

RTS's, on the other hand, can be incredibly varied. Mass-unit games (e.g. Age of Mythology), small-group games (e.g. Starcraft) , ability-based games (e.g. Warcraft), etc. Also, with RTS's, you can usually edit things. For instance, Starcraft comes with a campaign editor. Goldeneye, to pick a random FPS from the same time frame, does not. You can't customize much in Goldeneye. And you can't mod it. Half-Life you can, admittedly. But still, FPS's tend to be less customizable than RTS's. And people like being able to customize things.

lol.... Dude u can mod ne FPS if ur smart enough.... Lol u really don't play good fps if ur talking about golden eye... Lol!! Ever play Half life 2? The game has 1 of the best graphic engines.. Of its time!... Um Ever play cs... Theres abour 5000 mods.. on that... Even lvl up mods.. Warcraft 3,Ultimate Warcraft, Superhero Mod, Diablo Mod, Ninja Mod... All that i can think of with lvl mods... But theres alot!!! of mods on It!

Oh, my bad... don't know why I was thinking RTC... Yeah I mean RTS...

And yes, I am a HUGE Half-Life Fan... I have strategy guides, posters, clothes, the actual game but I was just saying SOME fps... I agree with you Lord_Agamemnon. And Ashamed I think what he means is that most RTS games come with their own Editor, and of course FPSs don't.

Learn to type. I like to understand what I'm reading.

Goldeneye was like the beginning of multiplayer fps, so don't tell me it's bad.

Even today, it isn't that bad. I played it about a year ago and still enjoyed it.

Because FPS with minor communities either just totally suck or require too much skill to play on a decent level. fe Quake games.

Not Really...

For example: Halo(?)
you sayin it has no Fanbase, still millions of people love/play halo, and i doubt they'll stop buying it anytime soon...Maybe halo 7 they'll stop haha.

Farcry has a map editor and it looks great... i think im gona rent it again... v.v

UT 2008 (I think that's what it'll be called) will most-likely be mod-able. It'll go past what Half-life 2 has gone, but hey, they had four more years.

Still, I think the source engine remains the most flexible, mod-able engine to date. There was some dude online making an RTS with the engine, it was similar in style to classic Command and Conquer games, except it was 3D. You can find it on YouTube, though I'm not sure what it was.. just look for the tag half life 2, or something like that.

Anyway, what I'm trying to get at is that before the dawn of the source engine, only companies attempted to make FPS games, and it was like natural selection from there. The good ones survived, and the crappy ones died.

But now, with the addition of the source engine, a lot of free (and not free) software is being generated, especially FPS games/mods. I'm looking forward to one called 'Incoming Source,' it's a mod, but feels like a separate game (still FPS). A lot of the mods are like that. There will be a lot more third-party FPS games/mods that make the cut, thanks to the source engine. Check out Planet Half Life if you don't believe me.

And yes, Goldeneye is a classic. You do not doubt Goldeneye, Goldeneye doubts you.

I like FPS's better. But, they indeed get boring quickly. RTS are boring, and repetive, but the most played, the most-played absentmindedly for 'i'm-bored' situations. Like SC! Dirge of Cerebus will be played for its Storyline, and then disposed of quickly. SC will be completed, then kept around in case a friend logs on, a new map is made, or whatever.

2 games in the world that will never die:

SC

CS

Coincidence? I think not.

Well, CS > SC. However, you guys have to really check out Company of Heroes. That game is what RTS should be about - the strategy. I look at SC and I see a game that should fall under the genre of micro instead of actual strategy. It's far more satisfying to get a great strategy to unfold on its own than for you to have to hold its hand every step of the way, and in that regard, CoH is a much better RTS game than SC. There are just so many things that SC is incapable of doing that are now the standards that it's hard to swallow my pride and log onto Battle.net anymore. StarCraft was fun back in the day, but now there are so many opportunities out there you're only denying yourself untold pleasures by not trying them out.

Yeah, but SC can still run on my computer, lol.

Learn to type?

FPS doesn't need a fanbase to be popular. Its action now.
RTS however takes time and well... more strategy.

Also simply look at the ratio of FPS games to RTS games, there are so many more generic FPS games out there.

Felagund, would you mind posting a link to Company of Heroes? I wish to try it out, and see the strategy involved.