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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2006-08-17 at 22:57:39
Metamaterial objects are things that recieve properties based not what they are made up of, but how they are put together. Basically they are things that make electromagnetic radiation do SCIENCE MAGIC!

Bascially, this sort of material can be used to bend light, it has been mathematically theorized that it could bring about objects that would appear invisible to certain frequencies of light. (In six months or less, a team will produce the first case of a toaster size object invisible to radar. Not simply defracting in different directions, but completely invisible, meaning the wave goes in one side and out the other, going around the object in the middle.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-08-17 at 23:17:35
Interesting *does research on the scientists for his plan to conquer the world*
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2006-08-18 at 21:24:14
Oh yes - they were thinking of creating cloaking devices and such, weren't they?

I read about it in New Scientist.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by O)FaRTy1billion on 2006-08-19 at 06:22:10
Omg, I'm going to buy a wraith! Expect them on the market in about a year! tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-08-19 at 11:20:40
Invisibility for everybody. We didn't destroy oursleves with the atomic bomb, so let's try this stuff instead.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2006-08-19 at 19:27:32
Invisible to certain frequencies... that means that there will undoubtedly be another frequency that can detect it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2006-08-19 at 22:30:11
Well thats only what we have been able to construct so far. Basically they are tiny rings that can make light act opposite the way it should. (Kinda hard to explain) I'm guessing (I don't really know) Is that the varying size in circles would make them alter different frequencies, but altering the shape... Could do something else.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-08-19 at 23:08:17
QUOTE(Mini Moose 2707 @ Aug 19 2006, 07:20 AM)
Invisibility for everybody. We didn't destroy oursleves with the atomic bomb, so let's try this stuff instead.
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Amen.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2006-08-20 at 07:33:08
Yay for those materials! Explosives invisible to detectors!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-08-20 at 08:18:17
As Moose already stated - we are getting closer and closer to our own death. Breakthrough technology is always first used by the military, and only then changed to the civilan's needs.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xx.Doom.xX on 2006-08-21 at 11:22:23
Yay i could be invinsible if i was one of it! SWEET
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-08-21 at 11:55:54
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invinsible
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Invincible or Invisible make up your mind tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xx.Doom.xX on 2006-08-21 at 12:12:48
QUOTE(Shocko @ Aug 21 2006, 11:55 AM)
Invincible or Invisible make up your mind tongue.gif
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LOL

invisible lol laugh.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EcHo on 2006-08-21 at 13:05:24
So people cant see it too? Or only radars?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-08-21 at 22:45:11
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Bascially, this sort of material can be used to bend light, it has been mathematically theorized that it could bring about objects that would appear invisible to certain frequencies of light.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2006-08-21 at 23:22:03
What about lasers and stuff? Wouldn't such "metamaterials" still emit energy and such, thus making them prone to detection via stuff like infrared?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-08-22 at 00:46:50
obviously but who carries an infared laser detection around in their purse / wallet / pocket. That would be military thing. Then there is the whole issue of where to scan for them. Slow process most likely.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2006-08-22 at 03:41:36
Its metamaterial. It has infinate possibility. It could be the weight of 0.0000000000000000001². Imagine that. Light as nothing. In fact, lighter than air. And it could be radiation shielded, indestructable, and energy proof. While also having an integrated nuclear explosion device without killing the person inside it. And the person could also be invisible to any type of radars or visible spectrum.
Think about that walking into Manhattan or something. BOOM! doom. End of the world! They would make everyone do that and nobody would die. but the shelters dead and they gotta pee. They'd kill themselves out anyways.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2006-08-22 at 10:27:47
Lithium, I don't even know where to begin trying to understand what you were talking about in your post. For the rest of you, I think you are all taking this a bit too far.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Daedalus on 2006-08-22 at 11:51:51
Man, how I just love sources. They change a dream-on topic into a scientific one smile.gif.

While I'm not an huge science expert, this sounds like stuff I've been hearing about for years and gets more and more unscientific every time I hear something about it. In other words, whenever you want a (serious) discussion about subjects like this one, use sources!
Oh and please don't come with a wikipedia article, wikipedia is not your most trusted source tongue.gif.

EDIT: I've done a quick google and found this article. I haven't really read it, just browsed through it but it looks very interesting and (very important) with good looking argumentations.
LINK (note: it's in PDF format, if you want the HTML version just google for "Metematerial objects".
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FallenDreamer on 2006-08-22 at 17:59:37
QUOTE(Shocko @ Aug 21 2006, 10:46 PM)
obviously but who carries an infared laser detection around in their purse / wallet / pocket. That would be military thing. Then there is the whole issue of where to scan for them. Slow process most likely.
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Dude, cell phones. They pick up more light frequencies than the human eye (although it might depend on the cell phone, older ones might not). Keep one handy. And a remote control handy to.

Remote transmits infared beam, Cellphone detects it. Trace that combo over an 'invisible person,' and there you go. Just got female dogified, MacGyver style.

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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-08-22 at 18:21:31
ooooh yeah. Didnt think of those. But nowadays who carries a remote with them (dont answer that tongue.gif)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FallenDreamer on 2006-08-22 at 18:49:44
That's easy, the...

You know what? I'll save you the embaressment.

Anyway, Metamaterails, they sound nice, but I figure they'll take to being used more by scientists than anyone else for the time being. Actually, lots of cool stuff is coming about nowadays. The 21st century is an interesting time to live in...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-08-22 at 19:19:39
i personally preffered the 12th century tongue.gif [/joke]

But yeah there is some "interesting" stuff coming out to say the least happy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FallenDreamer on 2006-08-22 at 19:27:11
Yeah, some 'interesting stuff'
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