Report, edit, etc...Posted by EcHo on 2006-09-22 at 00:09:39
I saw the news, the Venezulan president said if America attacks Iran, they will attack us. The president also called Bush the devil. What do you think will happen?
Discuss!
Discuss!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HolySin on 2006-09-22 at 00:30:24
He meant an attack as in an attack on oil prices. Basically, prices at the pump would raise to $6.00-$7.00 a gallon. Of course, if he did this, he would have problems since the U.S. is the main trading partner of Venezuela. Probably an attempt to sustain money would be to try selling oil to countries which support him, which quite frankly, are countries that don't really need oil (with the exception of Cuba).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Desperado on 2006-09-22 at 00:58:28
The Venezuelan President has been saying far crazier things for years. This isn't news.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)Excalibur on 2006-09-22 at 14:39:33
QUOTE(Desperado @ Sep 21 2006, 11:58 PM)
The Venezuelan President has been saying far crazier things for years. This isn't news.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-09-23 at 17:34:05
QUOTE(Mini_Boobs_2707 @ Sep 21 2006, 08:09 PM)
I saw the news, the Venezulan president said if America attacks Iran, they will attack us. The president also called Bush the devil. What do you think will happen?
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He is nuts and is showing off to the cameras...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gamma on 2006-09-23 at 21:30:08
Iran is a branch of evil. We should disarm the nukes of Iran first, and then disarmm Israel's nukes. First we should issue a statement of our plans in the matter.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chronic on 2006-09-23 at 22:06:01
Bush hasnt really done anything good for american...Not alot of people agree with what he says or does -_-
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gamma on 2006-09-23 at 22:13:24
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Bush hasnt really done anything good for american...Not alot of people agree with what he says or does -_-
Everyone is entitled to their own oppinion, but being Republican I must disagree. He would have been thrown out by now from his office if he did nothing good.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (DI)Yulla on 2006-09-23 at 22:19:34
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Everyone is entitled to their own oppinion, but being Republican I must disagree. He would have been thrown out by now from his office if he did nothing good.
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Lets just say he wasn't the worst president the frist term he served. In fact, he roused up some americans from couches to actually being active in politics.
But the reason why so many people say he was and is a terrible president is because of the war on terrorism. I don't want to get too wordy on this and act like a mineral hog, but he could have done a better job in solving problems in Mid East than what he had done so far. The Patriot Act also reveals how ignorant of he is.
But I dont think failures of the president Bush means "gg US". In fact, I think the situation cannot get worse: terrible tax, horrible international relationships, huge national debt, enormous anti-republican groubs. I mean, with bush, we can only go up, can't we? Hopefully, American's will be able to push it up and become respected around the globe once again.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gamma on 2006-09-23 at 22:21:52
Sure I agree with you that he could have done a better job on the war against terrorism, but in reality, noone is perfect.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (DI)Yulla on 2006-09-23 at 22:29:10
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Sure I agree with you that he could have done a better job on the war against terrorism, but in reality, noone is perfect.
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Lets not get too detailed on how everyone is not perfect. BUT the president of US is SUPPOSED to be perfect. everyone expects the president of US to be right all the time. And unfortunately, his choice to go after Iraqi oil supply has been a very greedy decision indeed.
But don't get off topic gamma.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chronic on 2006-09-24 at 04:03:07
QUOTE(Gamma @ Sep 23 2006, 09:13 PM)
Everyone is entitled to their own oppinion, but being Republican I must disagree. He would have been thrown out by now from his office if he did nothing good.
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I know that....the government probably have their reasons for not doing that,wait do u live in a america?
NOT COULD OF SHOULD HAVE
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HolySin on 2006-09-24 at 13:12:08
Bush bases a lot of his actions off fear. Fear that the U.S. will be attacked by another country, such as Iran with its nuclear power.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2006-09-24 at 18:43:44
He hasn't really done anything for America though. You could argue that he's done stuff for Afghanistan and Iraq (debatable there even), but he's only really hurt America. Let's just say Hugo Chavez (his name right?) isn't nearly as crazy as say Pat Robertson, Michael Savage, etc. etc. Not that I agree with him, but we have more than our fair share of extremists that people listen to (and that's a lot of people). I actually read an article that said some naval vessels were being ordered to prepare for departure for the waters off of Iran. It didn't say that they were being ordered to depart, but rather that they should be ready to depart if the president chooses for that to be a course of action. It also went on to say that any ground action would be fairly impossible, as our army is spread out and bogged down elsewhere, so any action against Iran would be in the form of air strikes and some special operations.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by yeow on 2006-09-24 at 18:57:55
Even if Venezuela did attack the U.S. army wise, then we would just pull out of Iraq and invade them, making everyone happy. Plus, Israel is our ally.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gamma on 2006-09-24 at 19:17:42
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Lets not get too detailed on how everyone is not perfect. BUT the president of US is SUPPOSED to be perfect. everyone expects the president of US to be right all the time. And unfortunately, his choice to go after Iraqi oil supply has been a very greedy decision indeed.
Name a president who has been perfect and not made one mistake please.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (DI)Yulla on 2006-09-24 at 20:20:41
QUOTE(Gamma @ Sep 24 2006, 06:17 PM)
Name a president who has been perfect and not made one mistake please.
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Did i say EVERYONE was perfect? I didn't say that presidents didn't make mistakees.
I dont want to repeat what Felagund already said. Read what he posted.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EcHo on 2006-09-25 at 15:40:19
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Two of President Bush's staunchest domestic critics leapt to his defense Thursday, a day after one of his fiercest foreign foes called him "the devil" in a scorching speech before the United Nations.
"You don't come into my country; you don't come into my congressional district and you don't condemn my president," Rep. Charles Rangel, D-New York, scolded Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-California, was blunt in her criticism of the Venezuelan leader. "He is an everyday thug," she said. (Watch Rangel rip Chavez -- 1:28 )
Chavez kept up his criticism of Bush during a visit to Harlem on Thursday, calling the U.S. president "a sick man" who is unqualified for the job. Chavez also said he is expanding his heating-oil program to help low-income Americans.
During his speech before the U.N. General Assembly on Wednesday, Chavez launched into a caustic verbal attack of Bush that shocked diplomats and observers accustomed to the staid verbiage of international diplomacy. (Full story)
"The devil came here yesterday," Chavez said, referring to Bush, who addressed the world body during its annual meeting Tuesday. "And it smells of sulfur still today."
Chavez accused Bush of having spoken "as if he owned the world" when the U.S. president addressed the world body on Tuesday. (Watch Chavez headline a devil of a week at the U.N. -- 2:11)
"As the spokesman of imperialism, he came to share his nostrums to try to preserve the current pattern of domination, exploitation and pillage of the peoples of the world. An Alfred Hitchcock movie could use it as a scenario. I would even propose a title: 'The Devil's Recipe.' "
Bush's domestic foes fumed Thursday.
"If there's any criticism of President Bush, it should be restricted to Americans, whether they voted for him or not," Rangel said at a Washington news conference.
"I just want to make it abundantly clear to Hugo Chavez or any other president: Don't come to the United States and think, because we have problems with our president, that any foreigner can come to our country and not think that Americans do not feel offended when you offend our chief of state," Rangel said.
"Hugo Chavez abused the privilege that he had speaking at the United Nations," Pelosi said. "In doing so, in the manner which he characterized the president, he demeaned himself and demeaned Venezuela."
Bush administration officials dismissed the Chavez tirade.
"We're not going to address that sort of comic-strip approach to international affairs," John Bolton, the U.S. ambassador to the U.N., said shortly after Chavez spoke Wednesday.
Chavez's tirades against Bush have become common. In May, he accused Bush of committing genocide and said the U.S. president should be imprisoned by an international criminal court.
Chavez also alleged during the U.N. speech that the United States is planning, financing and setting in motion a coup to overthrow him. The U.S. has denied such accusations in the past.
As he was exiting the U.N. building in New York, Chavez told reporters that Bush is not a legitimate president because he "stole the elections."
"He is, therefore, a dictator," Chavez said.(Watch Chavez's bellicose comments -- :57)
During a stop in Harlem on Thursday, Chavez said he has no quarrel with the American people.
"We are friends of yours, and you are our friends," he said.
Underscoring his point, he announced he is expanding his heating-oil program to help impoverished Americans from 40 million gallons last year to 100 million gallons this year, and from 180,000 families to 459,000 families.
But in the heart of Rangel's congressional district, he blasted away at Bush for a second day.
"He walks like this cowboy John Wayne," said Chavez. "He doesn't have the slightest idea of politics. He got where he is because he is the son of his father. He was an alcoholic, an ex-alcoholic. He's a sick man, full of complexes, but very dangerous now because he has a lot of power."
Chavez, clad in a fire-engine-red shirt, called Bush a "menace" and a "threat against life on the planet."
In the United States, rich people are getting richer, and poor people are getting poorer, he said. "That's not a democracy; that's a tyranny."
After his address, a Chavez spokesman said the Secret Service and New York Police Department had barred the Venezuelan president from granting media interviews and cut his delegation's satellite feed -- claims the New York police and State Department denied.
NYPD Assistant Chief Michael Collins called the allegations "absolutely false" and said the Venezuelan delegation refused to comply with requirements on where to place their satellite dish.
"What they were doing was dangerous and illegal," he said. "We made every accommodation not to interfere with what was going on."
State Department spokesman Gonzo Gallegos, in New York with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, said: "As a matter of policy, there are no restrictions on President Chavez or anyone else wanting to speak their mind in the United States."
"You don't come into my country; you don't come into my congressional district and you don't condemn my president," Rep. Charles Rangel, D-New York, scolded Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-California, was blunt in her criticism of the Venezuelan leader. "He is an everyday thug," she said. (Watch Rangel rip Chavez -- 1:28 )
Chavez kept up his criticism of Bush during a visit to Harlem on Thursday, calling the U.S. president "a sick man" who is unqualified for the job. Chavez also said he is expanding his heating-oil program to help low-income Americans.
During his speech before the U.N. General Assembly on Wednesday, Chavez launched into a caustic verbal attack of Bush that shocked diplomats and observers accustomed to the staid verbiage of international diplomacy. (Full story)
"The devil came here yesterday," Chavez said, referring to Bush, who addressed the world body during its annual meeting Tuesday. "And it smells of sulfur still today."
Chavez accused Bush of having spoken "as if he owned the world" when the U.S. president addressed the world body on Tuesday. (Watch Chavez headline a devil of a week at the U.N. -- 2:11)
"As the spokesman of imperialism, he came to share his nostrums to try to preserve the current pattern of domination, exploitation and pillage of the peoples of the world. An Alfred Hitchcock movie could use it as a scenario. I would even propose a title: 'The Devil's Recipe.' "
Bush's domestic foes fumed Thursday.
"If there's any criticism of President Bush, it should be restricted to Americans, whether they voted for him or not," Rangel said at a Washington news conference.
"I just want to make it abundantly clear to Hugo Chavez or any other president: Don't come to the United States and think, because we have problems with our president, that any foreigner can come to our country and not think that Americans do not feel offended when you offend our chief of state," Rangel said.
"Hugo Chavez abused the privilege that he had speaking at the United Nations," Pelosi said. "In doing so, in the manner which he characterized the president, he demeaned himself and demeaned Venezuela."
Bush administration officials dismissed the Chavez tirade.
"We're not going to address that sort of comic-strip approach to international affairs," John Bolton, the U.S. ambassador to the U.N., said shortly after Chavez spoke Wednesday.
Chavez's tirades against Bush have become common. In May, he accused Bush of committing genocide and said the U.S. president should be imprisoned by an international criminal court.
Chavez also alleged during the U.N. speech that the United States is planning, financing and setting in motion a coup to overthrow him. The U.S. has denied such accusations in the past.
As he was exiting the U.N. building in New York, Chavez told reporters that Bush is not a legitimate president because he "stole the elections."
"He is, therefore, a dictator," Chavez said.(Watch Chavez's bellicose comments -- :57)
During a stop in Harlem on Thursday, Chavez said he has no quarrel with the American people.
"We are friends of yours, and you are our friends," he said.
Underscoring his point, he announced he is expanding his heating-oil program to help impoverished Americans from 40 million gallons last year to 100 million gallons this year, and from 180,000 families to 459,000 families.
But in the heart of Rangel's congressional district, he blasted away at Bush for a second day.
"He walks like this cowboy John Wayne," said Chavez. "He doesn't have the slightest idea of politics. He got where he is because he is the son of his father. He was an alcoholic, an ex-alcoholic. He's a sick man, full of complexes, but very dangerous now because he has a lot of power."
Chavez, clad in a fire-engine-red shirt, called Bush a "menace" and a "threat against life on the planet."
In the United States, rich people are getting richer, and poor people are getting poorer, he said. "That's not a democracy; that's a tyranny."
After his address, a Chavez spokesman said the Secret Service and New York Police Department had barred the Venezuelan president from granting media interviews and cut his delegation's satellite feed -- claims the New York police and State Department denied.
NYPD Assistant Chief Michael Collins called the allegations "absolutely false" and said the Venezuelan delegation refused to comply with requirements on where to place their satellite dish.
"What they were doing was dangerous and illegal," he said. "We made every accommodation not to interfere with what was going on."
State Department spokesman Gonzo Gallegos, in New York with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, said: "As a matter of policy, there are no restrictions on President Chavez or anyone else wanting to speak their mind in the United States."
Report, edit, etc...Posted by smasher25 on 2006-09-26 at 02:21:47
I'm not in the US 
so I'm not endangered. But I do however advise bush not to be foolish and attack iran etc or start any wars.
so I'm not endangered. But I do however advise bush not to be foolish and attack iran etc or start any wars.Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2006-09-26 at 16:55:04
One thing that upsets me is that the United States doesn't give a poop about diplomacy. We're acting like people better like us or we'll attack them. Honestly, what America needs is diplomacy again. Bill Clinton was a diplomat. Bush is too stupid to be one.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lyon on 2006-09-26 at 18:31:54
Hardly gg.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EcHo on 2006-09-27 at 18:59:02
Its actually bad game.
The most possible target is New York City or Washington DC (Which I doubt).
The most possible target is New York City or Washington DC (Which I doubt).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TSoldier_Wol[f] on 2006-09-27 at 19:17:06
QUOTE(Felagund @ Sep 26 2006, 01:54 PM)
One thing that upsets me is that the United States doesn't give a poop about diplomacy. We're acting like people better like us or we'll attack them. Honestly, what America needs is diplomacy again. Bill Clinton was a diplomat. Bush is too stupid to be one.
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Bill Clinton left with a bad reputation but yet he did a good job compared to Bush right now as well.
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Its actually bad game.
The most possible target is New York City or Washington DC (Which I doubt).
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I'm guessing somewhere around on the West side of the United States, since we're more open on the west than we are on the east, and also. Ever since then scurity in the eastern part of the United states has increased alot since 9/11. Our weakness is mostly on the west side, since it's basicially desert and easy to get in to the country like the Mexicans do, That's my opinion though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2006-09-27 at 20:53:38
Yes, you guys know everything, don't you?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-09-28 at 01:28:31
I sure know everything : )
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