Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kyuubi. on 2006-09-25 at 14:00:47
i have a few quick questions on that... i have read that the 'unused upgrade 60' effects psi storm somehow, and someone said it adds 8 damage per upgrade. does it only change the damage on affected units and not the duration?
and if you change it to like 50 points into the upgrade it'll do around 400 damage for that player or does it effect all?
and if you change it to like 50 points into the upgrade it'll do around 400 damage for that player or does it effect all?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by fritfrat(U) on 2006-09-25 at 14:52:17
I was the one that said it does 8 damage per upgrade, but that's 8 damage for a unit being under the storm for its entire duration, not 1 tick. It's 14+1 per time it gets hurt, and 112+8 for total duration, since storm hurts a unit 8 times if they sit under it the entire time. Upgrades do not change the duration.
Upgrades to storm will only affect the player that you have it upgraded for. So if you set the default for unused upgrade 60 to 50 upgrades, then all players will have the 50 unused upgrades; if you set default to 0 and that player to not use default and to have 50, then only that player has the 50 upgrades.
I'd recommend not setting default to 50, since it also affects a lot of things because psi storm, a list of which I'll find and post here later.
EDIT: Here's all the significant other things it has an effect on. You can set all the bonuses to 0 or whatever you want except for building armor, critter armor, and psi storm damage.
Upgrades to storm will only affect the player that you have it upgraded for. So if you set the default for unused upgrade 60 to 50 upgrades, then all players will have the 50 unused upgrades; if you set default to 0 and that player to not use default and to have 50, then only that player has the 50 upgrades.
I'd recommend not setting default to 50, since it also affects a lot of things because psi storm, a list of which I'll find and post here later.
EDIT: Here's all the significant other things it has an effect on. You can set all the bonuses to 0 or whatever you want except for building armor, critter armor, and psi storm damage.
QUOTE(Kenoli)
- Photon Cannon damage
- Missile Turret damage
- Sunken Colony damage
- Spore Colony damage
- All building armor
- All critter armor
- Infested Terran damage
- Scourge damage
- Spider Mine damage
- SCV damage
- Probe damage
- Drone damage
- Psionic Storm damage
- Missile Turret damage
- Sunken Colony damage
- Spore Colony damage
- All building armor
- All critter armor
- Infested Terran damage
- Scourge damage
- Spider Mine damage
- SCV damage
- Probe damage
- Drone damage
- Psionic Storm damage
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kenoli on 2006-09-25 at 17:06:15
Critter armor too.
I'll just add that to your quote of me.
I'll just add that to your quote of me.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Killer_Kow(MM) on 2006-09-25 at 17:18:16
QUOTE(Killer_Kow(MM) @ Sep 9 2006, 11:26 AM)
Unknown 60 affects the following entries:
(U means unit, W means weapon)
(U)Spider Mine
(U)Nuke
(U)Scanner Sweep
(U)Rhynadon
(U)Bengalaas
(U)Cargo Ship
(U)Mercenary Gunship
(U)Scantid
(U)Kakaru
(U)Ragnasaur
(U)Ursadon
(U)Map Revealer
(U)Distruption Web
Pretty well every building (if not all buildigns) (including special and unused ones, I'll list some of the rarer/stranger ones anyway)
(U)Mineral Fields
(U)Cave (Unused)
(U)Cave-in (Unused)
(U)Cantina (Unused)
(U)Mining Platform
Independant structures
(U)Ruins (Unused)
(U)Vespane Geyser
(U)Markers and beacons
(U)Floor Missile Trap
(U)Floor Hatch
Doors
All the other traps...
(U)Start Location
(U)Flag
Other powerups
Minerals clusters, etc
(W)Fusion cutter (scv)
(W)Fusion cutter (harvest)
(W)Long bolt missiles
(W)Yamato Gun
(W)Nuke
(W)Lockdown
(W)EMP Shockwave
(W)Irradiate
(W)Spines (Drone)
(W)Spines (Harvest)
(W)Seeker Spores
(W)Sub. Tentacle
(W)Suicide (both)
(W)Parasite
(W)Spawn Broodlings
(W)Ensnare
(W)Dark Swarm
(W)Plague
(W)Consume
(W)Particle Beam (probe)
(W)Particle Beam (Harvest)
(W)Photon cannons shots
(W)Stasis Field
(W)Psi Storm
(W)Missiles (Unused)
(W)Laser Battery1 (Unused)
(W)Tormentor Missiles (Unused)
(W)Bombs (Unused)
(W)Raider Gun (Unused)
(W)Laser Battery2 and 3 (unused)
(W)Dual Photon Blasters (Unused)
(W)Flachette grenade (Unused)
(W)Distruption Web
(W)Restoration
(W)Mind Control
(W)Feedback
(W)Optical Flare
(W)Maelstorm
As for most of the weapons, don't expect an attack bonus, simply because a lot of them have 0 set to bonus.
And there's your list. Enjoy.
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(U means unit, W means weapon)
(U)Spider Mine
(U)Nuke
(U)Scanner Sweep
(U)Rhynadon
(U)Bengalaas
(U)Cargo Ship
(U)Mercenary Gunship
(U)Scantid
(U)Kakaru
(U)Ragnasaur
(U)Ursadon
(U)Map Revealer
(U)Distruption Web
Pretty well every building (if not all buildigns) (including special and unused ones, I'll list some of the rarer/stranger ones anyway)
(U)Mineral Fields
(U)Cave (Unused)
(U)Cave-in (Unused)
(U)Cantina (Unused)
(U)Mining Platform
Independant structures
(U)Ruins (Unused)
(U)Vespane Geyser
(U)Markers and beacons
(U)Floor Missile Trap
(U)Floor Hatch
Doors
All the other traps...
(U)Start Location
(U)Flag
Other powerups
Minerals clusters, etc
(W)Fusion cutter (scv)
(W)Fusion cutter (harvest)
(W)Long bolt missiles
(W)Yamato Gun
(W)Nuke
(W)Lockdown
(W)EMP Shockwave
(W)Irradiate
(W)Spines (Drone)
(W)Spines (Harvest)
(W)Seeker Spores
(W)Sub. Tentacle
(W)Suicide (both)
(W)Parasite
(W)Spawn Broodlings
(W)Ensnare
(W)Dark Swarm
(W)Plague
(W)Consume
(W)Particle Beam (probe)
(W)Particle Beam (Harvest)
(W)Photon cannons shots
(W)Stasis Field
(W)Psi Storm
(W)Missiles (Unused)
(W)Laser Battery1 (Unused)
(W)Tormentor Missiles (Unused)
(W)Bombs (Unused)
(W)Raider Gun (Unused)
(W)Laser Battery2 and 3 (unused)
(W)Dual Photon Blasters (Unused)
(W)Flachette grenade (Unused)
(W)Distruption Web
(W)Restoration
(W)Mind Control
(W)Feedback
(W)Optical Flare
(W)Maelstorm
As for most of the weapons, don't expect an attack bonus, simply because a lot of them have 0 set to bonus.
And there's your list. Enjoy.
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There's a slightly more complete list
And as for the damage amount of Psionic Storm, I do believe it is 16+1 per interval, as opposed to fritfrat's 14+1 (that's what DatEdit is telling me).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by xmrxsiegecopx on 2006-09-25 at 18:31:58
QUOTE(Kyuubi. @ Sep 25 2006, 11:00 AM)
i have a few quick questions on that... i have read that the 'unused upgrade 60' effects psi storm somehow, and someone said it adds 8 damage per upgrade. does it only change the damage on affected units and not the duration?
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Actually, Psionic storm is a series of 8 consecutive attacks (base attack is 14), so it's +1 per upgrade.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Falkoner on 2006-09-25 at 19:05:01
Just a question but where do you find this ominous unused upgrade 
ADDITION:
Woops, maybe I shoulda tried looking under the "unused" in the upgrades list before posting
ADDITION:
Woops, maybe I shoulda tried looking under the "unused" in the upgrades list before posting
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kenoli on 2006-09-25 at 22:24:12
Why bother listing all the units, weapons, and spells that don't actually get an upgrade.
Example, irradiate. So maybe it takes the upgrade, but it doesn't make it do more damage.
Armor on invincible units like powerups and Mineral fields, pointless.
Example, irradiate. So maybe it takes the upgrade, but it doesn't make it do more damage.
Armor on invincible units like powerups and Mineral fields, pointless.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Killer_Kow(MM) on 2006-09-28 at 15:13:01
QUOTE(Kenoli @ Sep 25 2006, 11:23 PM)
Why bother listing all the units, weapons, and spells that don't actually get an upgrade.
Example, irradiate. So maybe it takes the upgrade, but it doesn't make it do more damage.
Armor on invincible units like powerups and Mineral fields, pointless.
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Example, irradiate. So maybe it takes the upgrade, but it doesn't make it do more damage.
Armor on invincible units like powerups and Mineral fields, pointless.
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For mapping, yes
Report, edit, etc...Posted by fritfrat(U) on 2006-09-28 at 16:12:56
Also, I tested it with 86 upgrades, dealt 100/800 damage. So it's base damage of 14.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by roryfenrir on 2006-09-29 at 17:24:22
wait how do access the unused ups??