Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro-Fire on 2006-10-03 at 06:42:42
i just saw some guy that dropped out of school, and played world of warcraft for 16 hours a day for 18 months.
and worse he is a paly with crap gear.
also another addict killed himself aftr playing for 36 hrs straight. said he wanted to join his "heros" lol!
and worse he is a paly with crap gear.
also another addict killed himself aftr playing for 36 hrs straight. said he wanted to join his "heros" lol!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by WoAHorde2 on 2006-10-03 at 10:35:15
This just shows that WoW hurts alot to your grades, self esteem, and emotions. I broke my addiciotn to WoW and joined SC again. I feel so good... 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by xmrxsiegecopx on 2006-10-03 at 10:42:47
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just saw some guy that dropped out of school, and played world of warcraft for 16 hours a day for 18 months.
Same thing happened to me, but with SC instead of WoW over a period of 11 months since last November.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2006-10-03 at 11:42:25
Actually I read an interesting article about the addiction and dedication it takes to play Wow, but specifically related to real life job hunting. Some people began to put their basic WoW character stats on their resumés in a "qualification" section to prove that if they've got a high leveled character, they are dedicated and responsible individuals. And ironically the employers accepted this as a qualification because WoW has become so popular now that just about anyone familiar with Pop Culture knows what it is.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2006-10-03 at 12:09:34
I've already been pretty vocal about my feelings towards WoW in the Games forum. But if you haven't seen that thread, here's what I said there:
QUOTE(Doodan @ Oct 1 2006, 01:40 AM)
I hate WoW. I played it for a couple of months. I got my warlock up to level 52 and I became guild master of a lowbie guild. But then I realized... months of my life were gone in what felt like a couple of weeks. My grades were going down. I hadn't had any girlfriends or dates in that time period. I hadn't done any work on my movie or other projects. Some could accuse me of having a one track mind, and that's kinda true. I'm either totally into something or I don't care much about it at all. But my own personal losses were not what motivated me to hate it. It motivated me enough to quit, though.
What made me hate is my brother's addiction to it. He spends 10+ hours a day in his room in front of his moniter, getting fatter and paler. I don't trust him to babysit my boy when I go out because he never comes out of his room to check on him. I constantly have to schedule my plans around his stupid raiding schedule. We almost never spend time together anymore. Since I have a credit card and he doesn't, he asks me to pay for his dumb WoW gold with my card and he pays me back in cash (an annoying trend that I have refused to keep doing). I could have went with him and our mutual best friend to see SNAKES ON A MOTHAfreakING PLANE on opening night, but he had to run noobies through MC (I'm ashamed that I know what that means) for his guild that same night.
And if some mighty divine intervention came along and destroyed WoW, what would you have to show for all those years you spent playing it besides poorer health? NOTHING.
freak WOW.
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What made me hate is my brother's addiction to it. He spends 10+ hours a day in his room in front of his moniter, getting fatter and paler. I don't trust him to babysit my boy when I go out because he never comes out of his room to check on him. I constantly have to schedule my plans around his stupid raiding schedule. We almost never spend time together anymore. Since I have a credit card and he doesn't, he asks me to pay for his dumb WoW gold with my card and he pays me back in cash (an annoying trend that I have refused to keep doing). I could have went with him and our mutual best friend to see SNAKES ON A MOTHAfreakING PLANE on opening night, but he had to run noobies through MC (I'm ashamed that I know what that means) for his guild that same night.
And if some mighty divine intervention came along and destroyed WoW, what would you have to show for all those years you spent playing it besides poorer health? NOTHING.
freak WOW.
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QUOTE(Doodan @ Oct 1 2006, 10:41 AM)
My brother gives my mom cash and she pays for his online subscription. I've tried to talk her into pulling the plug, but she insists that he'll "grow out of it." I disagree, but oh well. He can live with her when he can't afford his own place. I ain't takin him.
And as I expected, some would accuse me of having poor management skills. That might be the case, I can't be totally sure. But like I said, its very hard for me to multitask (check out Tux's thread on that). I'm either very involved with something or I barely touch it, if any at all. The only things I do a decent job at juggling while of got other major projects going is time with my son, time on the net, and time spent at school or doing homework. But regrettably, even those things take turns suffering at various times when I get too involved with projects.
I'm pretty much past the point where I want to try and make WoW or any other massively time consuming game fit into my life. I liked the early stages of WoW better when the world was still new and most quests could be completed in no more than an hour. Not so with the end game. Besides, in WoW you're just another face in the crowd. Life would go on without you. But in games like Starcraft, you are integral to the existence of the fictional universe (the story and game construction have you believing that, at least). STARCRAFT FTW!
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And as I expected, some would accuse me of having poor management skills. That might be the case, I can't be totally sure. But like I said, its very hard for me to multitask (check out Tux's thread on that). I'm either very involved with something or I barely touch it, if any at all. The only things I do a decent job at juggling while of got other major projects going is time with my son, time on the net, and time spent at school or doing homework. But regrettably, even those things take turns suffering at various times when I get too involved with projects.
I'm pretty much past the point where I want to try and make WoW or any other massively time consuming game fit into my life. I liked the early stages of WoW better when the world was still new and most quests could be completed in no more than an hour. Not so with the end game. Besides, in WoW you're just another face in the crowd. Life would go on without you. But in games like Starcraft, you are integral to the existence of the fictional universe (the story and game construction have you believing that, at least). STARCRAFT FTW!
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QUOTE(Doodan @ Oct 2 2006, 09:46 PM)
Several months ago I went out on a date with this girl I met at school. She was also a single parent. We were just chatting at dinner and the topic inevitably came to why we aren't with the biological parents of our children. She said she divorced her husband because he became addicted to WoW, lost his job, and he was saying he'd found the "love of his life" in his online guild. I almost died laughing, because my brother had a WoW girlfriend for awhile. How terrible a net g/f must be. The most you can do is /kiss, /hug, and buy digital ice cream and flowers for eachother.
I only went out with her once. My insensitivity to her ex's WoW problem was probably why, but oh well. At least I got a good laugh.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lyon on 2006-10-03 at 13:40:32
HOLY SH*T ROFL!!!!
he play'd it for 36 hours straight, that is messed up.
its like that Korean guy who played SC For 50 hours straight and died of heart failure..
Perhaps lyon should rethink his plans about WoW.
he play'd it for 36 hours straight, that is messed up.
its like that Korean guy who played SC For 50 hours straight and died of heart failure..
Perhaps lyon should rethink his plans about WoW.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2006-10-03 at 14:50:52
Not serious Discussion stuff.
>> And so begins the great exodus
>> And so begins the great exodus
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-10-03 at 14:57:56
QUOTE(Pyro-Fire @ Oct 3 2006, 01:42 PM)
also another addict killed himself aftr playing for 36 hrs straight. said he wanted to join his "heros"
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A person who is easy to manipulate and influence can do that. I heard about some guy who player Diablo for 12 hours non-stop, went to the bathroom and died from a heartstop. He was too "in" the game.
If you want such things not to happen, people must understand that it's just a game.
My friend showed me MU online, and I didn't like it a fiew years ago when it was really popular. I didn't like WoW now. Basically I don't like online games.
And MA, this topic can be understood as "addiction to PC games", and topics like that were in SD.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-10-03 at 17:02:47
QUOTE(MillenniumArmy @ Oct 3 2006, 06:50 PM)
Not serious Discussion stuff.
>> And so begins the great exodus
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If suside because of a VIDIO GAME isnt serious, please tell me what is.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2006-10-03 at 17:55:57
It's not serious, it's hardcore comedy.
This stuff is hilarious, in a way. What idiots would these people have to be? It's amoung the worst of humanity, these morons.
Lyon, don't rethink WoW. Unless you're as stupid as the guy who played ~36 hours straight, you'll survive. Unless you're as stupid as the guy who played ~18 hours per day, you'll stay in high school. Unless you're as stupid as the guy who played ~10 hours per day, your grades will be okay. Unless you're as stupid as the guy who played ~5 hours per day, nothing except your gaming life will change.
This stuff is hilarious, in a way. What idiots would these people have to be? It's amoung the worst of humanity, these morons.
Lyon, don't rethink WoW. Unless you're as stupid as the guy who played ~36 hours straight, you'll survive. Unless you're as stupid as the guy who played ~18 hours per day, you'll stay in high school. Unless you're as stupid as the guy who played ~10 hours per day, your grades will be okay. Unless you're as stupid as the guy who played ~5 hours per day, nothing except your gaming life will change.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2006-10-03 at 21:27:20
I'm on the PC a lot, but the most I play is like two hours a night. On weekends, I might push five or six, but I do other things as well. Doing things in real life gives way more satisfaction than doing things on the PC. For example, if I get a miraculous 5-1 kill ratio in CS:S I might feel decent about myself. However, if I manage to make myself write a chapter of my book or paint a new squadron of Space Marines, I feel pretty damn well about myself.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Valug on 2006-10-03 at 22:12:15
[sub]5:1? Try 25:1. 
Anyways, as a WoW player, I can say that anyone who gets 'addicted' to games is their fault, not the games. Took me 5 and a half months to hit 60, playing a couple of hours a day. Now I raid about every night for 2-3 hours. I could never play it for 5+ hours, along with any other game.[/sub]
Anyways, as a WoW player, I can say that anyone who gets 'addicted' to games is their fault, not the games. Took me 5 and a half months to hit 60, playing a couple of hours a day. Now I raid about every night for 2-3 hours. I could never play it for 5+ hours, along with any other game.[/sub]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2006-10-03 at 22:27:13
Sorry, I don't play on crappy noob public servers.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Valug on 2006-10-03 at 22:31:42
[sub]And I guess you think I do. nsg.[/sub]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by WoAHorde2 on 2006-10-03 at 23:06:57
Now now...let's not flame each other..this is a discussion about WoW and its many affects, not for flaming.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-10-04 at 15:48:38
Heh, I sort of feel bad for the people who are seriously addicted to a game like that, and can't get off of it.. I've been addicted to games, or just usuing the computer... but I never starve myself just so I can play... wow..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chronophobia on 2006-10-04 at 17:10:15
I am playing World of Warcraft, I might would have called myself an addict, but since I can stay away from it I think I am not one of those.
I think people get addicted to WoW because they think that the "casual" gaming isn't enough, basically casual gaming is only scratching the very top of the big barrel of whine, to get those epic items in the game is only possible if you devote yourself in the game, only those who decide to sacrifice time to get those epic gear parts and be able to beat everyone else in that game, else you simply cannot get them. And those casual gamers think that they don't get enough out of the game, so either they start whining in the WoW forums that the casuals are not even as the hard core gamers, they also want that gear that those who spend several hours every day with 39 boss, item and glory hungry friends on ventrilo to complete those high end goals.
Therefore a part of the gamers chose to devote themselves and dive into that barrel of whine and get addicted by the drug and become game-oholics, because that's the only way they can get that honourful gear and welfare that the hardcore aholics already have.
I think people get addicted to WoW because they think that the "casual" gaming isn't enough, basically casual gaming is only scratching the very top of the big barrel of whine, to get those epic items in the game is only possible if you devote yourself in the game, only those who decide to sacrifice time to get those epic gear parts and be able to beat everyone else in that game, else you simply cannot get them. And those casual gamers think that they don't get enough out of the game, so either they start whining in the WoW forums that the casuals are not even as the hard core gamers, they also want that gear that those who spend several hours every day with 39 boss, item and glory hungry friends on ventrilo to complete those high end goals.
Therefore a part of the gamers chose to devote themselves and dive into that barrel of whine and get addicted by the drug and become game-oholics, because that's the only way they can get that honourful gear and welfare that the hardcore aholics already have.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2006-10-04 at 17:22:27
Sad isn't it? How can someone be so stupid as to choose getting an epic item over having a good life.. How can you pay for WoW once you're broke and your family abandons you in disgust? 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2006-10-04 at 20:15:51
There is a guy in my school that I know that pays around average 75 hours of WoW every week. Not as extreme as 16 hours a day but he is still an addict. He does get passing grades though... Still sad though, dropping out because of a game?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HolySin on 2006-10-05 at 09:19:43
Isn't it perfect how the season premiere episode of South Park perfectly displayed the World of Warcraft addict?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2006-10-05 at 09:54:01
I didn't see that one, Holysin. Any idea when it will come back on? I think I'll tape in and show it to my brother. 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2006-10-05 at 12:12:06
I'm loving these people saying World of Warcraft is not addictive. Are you aware of how many addictive qualities that game has to it? I was more or less addicted to it, and failed to see that I was being drawn into the game, having little actual fun. Let me list them for you...
From level 1 to 60, there is leveling. Everytime you kill a certain amount of creatures, do this many quests, etc. you level! You increase in power, get new abilities, can go new places, etc. The best part is, there's always another level in front of you! You can keep getting more powerful, keep getting new abilities, keep finding new places, new monsters, etc etc etc...
The 1 to 60 leveling goes hand-in-hand with getting new gear. Run instances to get new blues to make you more powerful. Oops, what you want didn't drop? Time to waste another two hours clearing out that instance, eh? Didn't quite make it to the end? Wiped? Group fell apart? Oh well, find a new one and get back to it!
Then, there's the PvP competition. When you go into a battleground and get your ass handed to you by somebody decked out in full blues, possibly a few epics, with every enchant known to man on every piece of their armor, you can't help but want to beat them. You want to out-level them and out-gear them. This sort of competition drives you even more into the leveling and gear addiction.
At level 60, it gets worse. Now you join a raiding guild. Now you have schedules. Now you have OBLIGATIONS. You have just made a COMMITMENT to REAL PEOPLE, who now expect you to upload that commitment, and raid with them. It's now this feeling of commitment that keeps people trapped. Not only that, but you still have the progress addictive qualities. You still have the PvP competition factor, Gear, DKP, the thrill of finally downing that boss! But guess what? There's always a bigger, stronger boss to down with better loot! Always.
Thus, I hate WoW.
From level 1 to 60, there is leveling. Everytime you kill a certain amount of creatures, do this many quests, etc. you level! You increase in power, get new abilities, can go new places, etc. The best part is, there's always another level in front of you! You can keep getting more powerful, keep getting new abilities, keep finding new places, new monsters, etc etc etc...
The 1 to 60 leveling goes hand-in-hand with getting new gear. Run instances to get new blues to make you more powerful. Oops, what you want didn't drop? Time to waste another two hours clearing out that instance, eh? Didn't quite make it to the end? Wiped? Group fell apart? Oh well, find a new one and get back to it!
Then, there's the PvP competition. When you go into a battleground and get your ass handed to you by somebody decked out in full blues, possibly a few epics, with every enchant known to man on every piece of their armor, you can't help but want to beat them. You want to out-level them and out-gear them. This sort of competition drives you even more into the leveling and gear addiction.
At level 60, it gets worse. Now you join a raiding guild. Now you have schedules. Now you have OBLIGATIONS. You have just made a COMMITMENT to REAL PEOPLE, who now expect you to upload that commitment, and raid with them. It's now this feeling of commitment that keeps people trapped. Not only that, but you still have the progress addictive qualities. You still have the PvP competition factor, Gear, DKP, the thrill of finally downing that boss! But guess what? There's always a bigger, stronger boss to down with better loot! Always.
Thus, I hate WoW.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by xmrxsiegecopx on 2006-10-05 at 13:32:01
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I'm loving these people saying World of Warcraft is not addictive.
The only game I've ever truly been addicted to was StarCraft, on battle.net. There were so many types of maps to download and so much replayability, it's what brought brought me to map making in the first place. However, that all ended when I lost all my maps, a non-laggy computer, and a high-speed ISP....
Most of the addicting qualities of World of Warcraft is simply a remake of Diablo 2: LOD, Champions: RtA, and other similar RPGs with better graphics and massive increases in multiplayer possibilities.
Also, video games in general often are popular because they delay or nullify anger and stress, reduce alertness and anxiety, and bring out adrenaline and stimulate the mind much in the same way as when a person who isn't hungry eats just for the sake of feeling better.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by T-MaStAA on 2006-10-05 at 15:17:34
Wow thats harsh
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2006-10-06 at 16:01:08
I never said it's not addicting, I said if you have half a brain you won't waste half of your day playing it.