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A couple of RPGs that are due for release in the next year or so (or have recently been released) have caught my eye.

First off, Baldur's Gate 3!

Link here

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Just kidding on that one folks. But check out Neverwinter Nights 2. This one has a deeper storyline, expanded gameplay, a world map reminiscent of Baldur's Gate, and a highly modified Aurora engine from the original NWN (basically a new engine).

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Assassin's Creed was recently announced for the PC. This game features amazing graphics, even better AI, and the most thought-provoking and intense gameplay I've ever heard about it.

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Just for kicks and giggles, I'd also check out Project Offset, The Witcher, and Elveon.

It's up to you to research these games, but they all excite me, and I predict I'll be buying every last single one of them.

Of course, because I mentioned recently released games, you all have to check out Dark Messiah of Might and Magic and The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, even though the latter was released the best part of a year ago!

Got me happy about Baldurs 3, jerk

I want to try out Neverwinter Nights 2, but I probably wont do it until I upgrade my computer. I'm reluctant to try new games until I upgrade a bit.

I still haven't gotten to play Oblivion on my own computer, for the reason above.

DAMN COMPUTER!

Why did you have to pull that Baulders Gate 3 joke... I was all gitty and such. But yeah, NWN 2 looks sweet, and I havent heard of the other one's untell right... Now. Very nice finds. Thanks for the update.

Why even make that joke? Baldur's Gate sucks. If you think I'm wrong stop reading right now because obviously you disagree with respected scholarly facts.


Deeper storyline? Expanded gameplay? What the -Hell- are you talking about? The gameplay that actually comes out of the box is a retarded storyline that they didn't even try to make good. NWN is all about community projects and NWN2 needs a while to ferment before it will be worth anything.


Truly, those are the most amazing pre-rendered graphics I have ever seen.


Oblivion.. so much failed potential. But even the people who play it, hate it, and ditch it before they manage to actually do anything in the game still say they like it.

Dark Messiah of Might and Magic.. what a nightmare. So far my fifty dollars has been wasted, perhaps when the game actually plays the tune will change.


I heard about those things years ago and they don't seem to have gone anywhere.

Flame removed. -Moose

Anyway i probally won't play any of those for deathawk's reason, but i like oblivion on my 360 :l

Alright, Mr. Knowledgeable. What are some good PC RPGs?

there is one rpg that can be called the greatest to pc. And that is........ NOX!!!
it rulz but it is almost impossible to get couse Westwood was bought up by EA and EA dont care about the past, only about getting $$$

Who are you to decide which game is good or not? I enjoyed Baldurs Gate 2: Shadows of Amn and many of the game very similar to Baldur's Gate, as in Icewind Dale 1, Icewind Dale Heart of Winter, and Icewind Dale 2. This isn't the first time you've done stuff like this...
Also, I did not play NWN2, but NWN1 was fun, the storyline and gameplay. The only thing I had a gripe with was the movement. :\

Oblivion... failed potential... people hate it? I don't know where you got that from..

[anti-sarcasm][sarcasm]My opinion is respected throughout the vast majority of the known realms.[/sarcasm][/anti-sarcasm]


I don't even like RPGs.

I'm not saying NWN2 is bad, I'm saying it's stupid to buy it now before the community has a chance to put things out. And even then I wouldn't buy it, I hate it, but I can see how some people might enjoy that kind of retarded d20-obsessed gameplay.

I can't speak to Dungeon Siege II but a lot of people seem to like that.

There really aren't that many new RPGs for PCs. MMORPGs are in abundance however. Guild Wars, World of WarCraft, and Final Fantasy XI are the hottest at the moment.

Ok, what are some good PC games?

"I don't even like PC games"


Flame edited out //Syphon

I played Dungeon Siege 2, it was alright, not that great.

Look like? See now that's unfair. If you had said "You are a jerk, Desperado." it would be a flame, and thus frowned upon despite any accuracy to the statement. Therefore you're forced to say I am making myself look like a jerk. This whole system is flawed. If someone is tall or white you don't say "You sure know how to make yourself look tall and white." But that's the world those crazy liberal asshats want you to live in. Viva la revolution!


No but I own the first one. Every source I have tells me the second one is more of the same, but shinier or something.


I really only play FPS games, like Half-Life 2, CS:S, DoD:S, F.E.A.R, Prey, UT2004, and Doom 3. World War II games make me sick. I hate playing 4 hour matches of Age of Empires and 12 hour matches of Empire Earth. Good games for the PC are few and far between and they are all first person shooters.

Really, the only games I play that aren't first person shooters.. Smash Bros, any Mario game that comes out (not sports ones), Metroid, Zelda. Perhaps with this knowledge of the kind of games I play you'll have a better idea of whether or not you should listen to the glorious fount of knowledge that is my being.

Again //Syphon

Please, show me your sources.

"The Good: Compelling story will keep you hooked for the entire 50-plus hours it takes to finish the single-player campaign; full-featured toolset lets you easily create and share new modules; this is just about the most authentic representation of dungeons & dragons you'll find in any game; excellent music and mostly well-done voice acting; the interactive dialogue and influence system make for dynamic and entertaining character interactions."
~Gamespot

Compelling story sounds like it's good to me.

Gamespot is not a reviewer.. it's a company trying to sell you a game. My sources are 1up, Joystiq, IGN, Penny-Arcade, friends.

Go get their reviews and take them apart, show me it. I'm not going searching for it

You play Day of Defeat: Source, but World War II games make you sick?

- Just in case you try to go back and edit it.

Dude, you should have just said you don't like PC games and that you're a console gamer. It would have ticked people off a lot less than if you had come in here saying we're wrong.

You saying that FPS are the only good PC games is more opinion then fact. And to me it sounds like your stating a proven, solid fact rather than your opinions. So I would have to agree with Deathawk that you're really making yourself look like a jerk.

I now officially hate you.

Just kidding on that one folks, but seriously that wasn't called for...

The biggest hits that everyone waits for are FPS games. There hasn't been a really top-notch RTS since StarCraft. RPGs.. I guess. Most of the RPGs out there only appeal to a select crowd. World of WarCraft has a huge fanbase, that's the only real counter-example to my assertion.


I should have further adressed this earlier. Everyone I know who owns Oblivion has played through the game a considerable degree, many of them attaining 1000 gamerpoints on their X-box 360s. And yet they made countless characters and complained about the game to no end through the entire ordeal. This is what I mean when I say even the people who "like" it, actually hate it. They will say they like it, because they payed money for it, and the game -should- be good, but somehow manages not to be. It is the ugly truth that the game sucks, and people have a hard time believing that the lie they are telling themselves really is a lie.


I'm a walking contradiction. But DoD:S doesn't even need to -be- a WWII game. The gameplay is totally independent of the fact that it is a WWII game. What I hate are the endless Medal of Honor, Call of Duty, and whatever else WWII games that take you through the same fights over and over and over. It was fun once, if that. These games are published by some of the worst game producers out there. Electronic Arts? Ubisoft? I'd rather be stabbed in the face than buy their trash. My most recent purchase of Dark Messiah is something I greatly regret.


Syphon keeps deleting or editing my posts. Moose puts the posts back, reprimands Syphon. It is an endless cycle. I have more honor than to remove something like that.


I spend more money on PC gaming than I do on console gaming. I was, essentially, into only PC gaming for the longest time. The only console gaming I do is Halo, and anything good on the 'Cube: Luigi's Mansion, Mario Sunshine, Paper Mario 2, Wind Waker, Metroid Prime 1&2, Smash Bros, Resident Evil 4.


You are wrong.

Day of Defeat is a WWII game.

Taken from here.

Please stop being wrong. You might actually convince someone you're right with your half-assed rhetoric, and we don't want that. I'm sure you regret buying Dark Messiah because it probably plays like crap on your PC. All in all, there hasn't been a hit PC FPS since Half-Life 2 (with the possible exceptions of F.E.A.R. and Battlefield 2). However, RTS's and RPG's are strong with such notables as Age of Empires 3, Medieval II, and Supreme Commander and Oblivion, Assassin's Creed, and Dark Messiah, respectively for their genres.

*Edit* Okay, give us three ways that Oblivion is bad.

Felagund and Desperado, play nice. I don't want to deal with coming online everyday to see "Ban him plkz, hes a douche bag." in my inbox.

That wasn't my point. I said it doesn't need to be a World War II game. The goals and gameplay are not intrinsically tied to World War II in anyway. You could very easily create the same gameplay in any setting. This is in stark contrast to other World War II games. Don't respond if you aren't going to pay attention.


Like I said, I spend more money on PC gaming than I do on console gaming. That's because my computer kicks ass. I can run Dark Messiah on max settings with wonderful smoothness. Unfortunately Dark Messiah had one of the worst launches in the history of gaming. Dark Messiah 1.0 had more bugs than Windows 95. Ubisoft is really apalling. Oh you should have seen the tech support forums.


The game has the most advanced character creation system ever, despite being a single player game with first person view. That's just freaking retarded. I'd wager to say that the vast majority of playtime engaged by most people with this game was spent on the character creation screen. Unfortunately no matter how much time you spend, your character remains is ugly as crap.

The biggest problem I have with the game is the fact that enemies purportedly level with you. That's not really the case. The enemies level much, much faster than you. If you don't power level, by the time you hit level five enemies will kill you in one hit and you can't even do a single point of damage to them. I've had people tell me I'm full of crap about that and that the game is actually really easy. Well they can go freak themselves, I know what I played. Perhaps I got the only bad copy of Oblivion? The system is flawed and requires you to manually adjust how difficult the enemies are on the options screen. As if it weren't bad enough that you never feel like you're accomplishing anything because you never get any stronger than your enemies. Now you have to change the difficulty settings yourself, completely eradicating the expierence.

The game uses grass models that have something like 20 polygons. If you download a mod that decreases this value to something like 6, the game looks exactly the same but uses half the processing power. That's ridiculous. I really wonder who works at Bethesda. Mentally retarded crack babies?

I don't know, the human mind is flawed. People do things they hate and tell themselves they enjoyed them. Perhaps it doesn't really matter whether you're actually enjoying yourself or if you're just convincing yourself you are. But I'd wager that lying to yourself like that is a cause of people being so screwed up in the head.


Suggesting that those games represent the strength of their genres is such a joke that I really can't even respond to this in any serious way.


Then do us all a favor and quit.

I don't see the problem with your enemies being equal power to you, I would rather have that then waste 90 hours in a huge environment doing something that takes no effort...

Maybe the reason everybody else except you is saying that is because you are wrong..?

Maybe they're writing that is because it's not possible to have a right or wrong about this but everyone will still have their own opinion that they're going to invariably think is right? Gee, I wonder.

This was what I was referring to..

About the difficulty of a game? We all know what's hard and what's not. Maybe they are all a little bit diefferent, but what he's saying really isn't true..

Now I know it depends on what he calls hard or easy, but really, the game wasn't hard..

To each his own, I guess.