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First, watch this: Iranian Nuclear Test Simulation


Second, look at this: Iranian Military Size


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If Iran did make a nuclear bomb, who would they use it on? Are they getting a nuclear bomb just to be a world power? What does Iran having the largest army in the world mean?


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Iran wants to have nuclear capabilities to be the one leading the middle east. But Iran has problems to that because they aren't even the same kind of muslims in the middle east.
Although, with the Lebanese Wars, Iran is gaining support and Hezbollah is gaining support from the middle eastern countries. Hezbollah and Iran weren't that popular.

- Most of the U.S. citizens know how to shoot a gun, but they don't really know how to aim well.

I think and correct me if Im wrong here, that Iran openly supports terrorist groups. I think its Hezbollah or Hamas or what ever group they support. But any way in many speeches the leader of Iran has said many times that Israel will meet it's doom soon, the holocaust was a hoax, etc etc etc.

Now we got a "supposed" nuclear project going on in Iran. I think most people can connect the dots.

So I think we are afraid Iran will make either a nuclear bomb, or a dirty bomb (no explosion, but radiation) and give it to the terrorist groups to use against Israel or the US or a western country.

So we don't have to worry about Iran using it, just the people Iran gives the bomb to.

Iran does openly support Hezbollah, and so do Syria. The Iran government supports Hezbollah. Hamas is actually the official government party of Palestine, which is wierd.
The U.S. has nuclear submarines in their seas. They can doom themselves if they really want to.

Hamas is something you would imagine a muslim with black robes and a turban with an AK-47.
Hezbollahs got terrorists seriously trained. They got night vision, body armor, and better guns from Germany. The Hezbollahs are supported by the Iran and Syria politically and economically. They've got radar specified missiles and they've got alot of good stuffs compared to Hamas.

I highly doubt that's a real test. Probably a camera problem. If Iran had tested a nuke, we'd have heard about it by now.

We can't be sure of that. There are some people out there who might not mind if they got blown up so long as Israel/the United States/whoever got blown up too.

It's pretty likely no country would directly use a nuclear weapon on another country. However, the country could "lose" a nuclear weapon and a terrorist group could "find" it and use that weapon to attack a nation.

If we let Iran get nuclear weapons that will just be an excuse for all the other Middle Eastern nations to get nuclear weapons too and some support terrorists so they could let the terrorists get ahold of nuclear weapons, and whos to say what country they got them from?

Iran doesnt have a very active military, and there less trained than most other nations soldiers. If we had war they probably would lose 10 soldiers for every one they killed.

Just by getting nuclear weapons and not even planning on using them would cause soo many problems by itself.

Even though they did have the largest millitary size, 11million of them were paramillitary, which I guess aren't trained as well. I'm suprised on how low the per 1000 citizens USA is... 3 out of every 1000..? That's really low, especially for the world superpower :\

Yes, in the near future I would consider that somewhat more likely.

The problem is, how do you tell where a nuke came from? There are plenty of nukes in Russia that some corrupt official might be greedy enough to sell, and it's not like a nuke leaves any trace large enough to tell who made it after it goes off.

Infrared Satellites imo. ICBMs give off alot of heat when they launch.

AND Uh... only 8 countries have nukes. 5 in the UN security council, 1 North Korea, 2 as US's allies (
Pakistan and India ). One thing is, North Korea doesn't have any range toward East coast, not even West coast. That leaves one possibility. The MAYBE countries that might have now is Iran and Israel. But Israel is a US allie politically and economically ALSO millitantly. Yep. That leaves ONE country. Iran.

This isn't very handy if the nuke is delivered by truck or by boat rather than launched on a missile. And if it's terrorists who are using them, this will probably be the case as they don't have the kinds of facilities necessary to launch ICBMs.

Using a nuclear bomb would be last resort at this point. The politicians of Iran are not idiots, they know what would happen if they happened to fire a nuclear bomb. The majority of Iran's military though is it's paramilitary, which are people who perform duties that aren't the normal jobs of the military, such as security and medical help, so that's probably where the 11,000,000 units comes from. What you should be looking at is the number of armed forces.

Did you know that trucks are caught on infrared satellites too? =/

Um then, you could count almost 70% of U.S. citizens to be paramillitary? I sure know a person who owns a LOT of guns.

Paramilitary are people who are enlisted into airforce, army, marines, or navy. If we counted all the people with guns as paramilitary, our number would be much higher than that of Iran.

But are they counting people with guns(For Iran). And just because our people have guns, doesn't neccesarilly mean they're going to fly over to Iran and actually do anything.

Exactly. Every sane person will agree that, crazy religious zealots should not be having nuclear weapons.

True. Regardless of religion, too.

neither should crazy insane dictator on the other side of asia. he has it though.

Quicky everyone get a globe.

Find the united states, europe, wherever you live.

Now spin it around, find Iran.

Oh, that's right, it's on the other side of the f'ing planet.

Who cares if they have the bomb? An iranian bomb will never make it to the united states. The iranians will use the bomb on israel, and only because israel actually has a first strike nuclear capability thanks to their friends in the old U S of A. It's a deterrent, and nothing more. The president of iran is, compared to the average leader in his region including the leaders of allies of the united states like Pakistan, Israel, Turkey, or Saudi Arabia, a relatively down-to-earth guy. His remarks about Israel needing to be wiped off the map? Remember George Bush starting the fight by lumping his country in with two insane dictators and then pursuing a war to the eventual collapse of one of those countries? It's propaganda that says that Iran is a threat. Their support of "terrorists" extends as far as their interests are directly concerned. And they don't have a bomb.

Except if they, like, give to terrorists and the terrorists have, like, a truck or a boat (neither of which cost that much).

For now, probably not. But they could get one soon, that's the problem.

This is conjecture, unfortunately. US intelligence actually says Iran can't even buy uranium from impoverished african countries. As for rowing a nuclear bomb across the atlantic ocean, or trucking it into europe, the logistics are still incredibly difficult. If anything the energy should be put to allowing Iran to develop nukes for itself, and keeping an eye on what they do with them, rather than arbitrarily allowing some countries to have nuclear weapons while threatening smaller countries that want them. See the thing is, since Iran is a sovereign country, they can do what they want. If the US wasn't constantly taking a dump in Iran's toilet, or peeking in their blinds, they wouldn't be so inclined to support terrorists.

They recently found traces of enriched uranium at some sites in Iran. I think that nuclear teste thing was a fake on the youtube thing. For all of those paramilitary people who own guns if we evewr went to war with Iran we would probably get all the soldiers, but imagine all those paramilitary people what 11,000,000? Imagine all those people as guerilla fighters. Comparing Iran to Vietnam the Vietnamise would probably be just poking us. The Iranians will probably have a bigger kill American Fever than the Vietnamise ever had, and a decent ICBM could reach the eastern USA.

Untrue, the terrorists they support mainly target Israel.


With that logic, the United States can invade Iran, North Korea, Lebanon, and Poland, because the United States is a sovereign nation.


Perhaps that would make a difference if the President of Iran actually ran Iran. It is the religious leader, or supreme leader, that makes all of the decisions regarding the nation of Iran.