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On the day the mapping contest is due SCMD starts ing with my strings. Every time I make a new string (like with a trigger) it deletes it now and points that string to something else. I only have about 50ish strings to.

Try opening your map in sf and use that string editor?

Tried it. The damage was already done.

I was feeling too fusterated to go undo it.

Any idea on how to do it again?

There is a backup database where SCMD2 backs up your map automatically.

did you use two different editors to make the map?

If you make the map in Draft only nothing should happen. If you use SF before, then don't blame Draft lol.

Can't help you any more but tell you that I will release a working version of my Editor by the end of the year which can fix any STR section, no matter which program corrupted it. Might be some work, since it's intentionally non-automatic (you already saw what automatized string recycling can do to your STR section), but is certainly possible.

which scmdraft version?
which trigger editor?

what other editors did you use?

I ask cause I know people who havae been using 0.7.0 since release for up to 10 hours a day without any crash or corruption....

plus with 0.7.0 all trigger probs are basicaly fixed and i have been working with a map with a freind with scm draft 0.7.0 and sf and no mess ups.So you might be using a old version or just found a bug

The newest Draft crashed if it's minimized for a while and I select an unit from the unit browser. By crashes I mean, stuck being "not responding". Please fix.

There have been some string problems already with scmd and it isnt perfect yet so dont say that

I'm not saying it's perfect. I'm saying if you have saved your map in SF before, it's obviously SF fault.

Obviously?

It obviously is the fault of the editor that corrupted the strings, really. If SCMD2 is not compatible to certain ways of string handling, it's not SFs fault.
If the strings were fine after saved with SF, SF is not to blame. If they were already corrupted in SF, it's SFs fault.
But actually we don't know yet which editors were used...

Btw, I highly recommend every editor to support strings according to my new STR specs, but since SF is not likely to get updated, and SI refused when I suggested him to do so, you will probably be running into such problems every now and then when you are using several editors.
And it's not like it was all about SF/SCMD2... string problems are not that rare actually.

Thank you

I didn't say that SF could handly any proper STR section, though. Just for the record.

I only used SCMDraft.

After the damage was done I was able to repair a bit of it in starforge. But up until that point it was only SCMDraft.

ADDITION:
More info:

I used multiple versions of SCMD.

I used the latest version. The version before that you posted in the shoutbox and the version before that with regular trig edit.

I used classic trig edit.

I messed with the strings agressivly.

ADDITION:

DEAD, stop being a huge fanboy. Stuff can go wrong that is not "obviously SF's fault".

I might have opened and closed the map with SF at some point (trying to give units negative hp or something), but I'd been using SCMD for quite a while when that happened. The trouble definitely started with SCMD.

ADDITION:
I think one of the problems is that I use string recycling far more aggressively than most people. Unlike SF SCMD doesn't encourage string recycling as much. You need to fill in the same string twice instead of selecting a string from a list.

In short, I'm not sure if a bug exists, but I would tend to think that string recycling is extremely under tested.

ADDITION:

That type of thing wouldn't help, sorry.

It's not that the string section was corrupted, just mistreated. Triggers pointed to wrong strings, strings deleted is pretty much it.

Actually this is exacly what can be fixed rather easily (compared to any other editor) in my editor.
Unlike other editors, you do not access strings by their actual content like in SF/SCMD2 in my editor, but by their index. This makes it a little annoying since you have to write the strings and the triggers seperately, but I will polish this up later with some comfort stuff.

In SF/SCMD2, you write
blahblah(lol, "string", rofl);
(or with similar results in classic trigedit)

in my editor you write
blahblah(lol, 0123, rofl);
and then you write a strings section where you specify that the string with index 0123 has the content "string".

Thus you have direct control over string recycling.
Fixing "broken" sections is simple that way as well.

Btw, right now I am almost finished rebuilding my UI, soon I will be enabling and polishing the map loading functions again, next will be the "compilation". But I must add that I am short of time...

As far as I know stirng recycling works perfectly in the latest version.
If you know how to bug it tell me and I will fix it, I dont know of anything that would mess strings up tho and I checked everything before making 0.7.0 an extra time.

Yeah SF isnt a totally useless program just because you open the map with it doesnt mean that the map is freaked and it will never work again. SF only freaks up when you make it

Yes it's useless. Because it offers nothing that Draft has besides the text editor. And the usefulness of the text editor is based on opinion. I'm a quality map maker and I make maps with sounds a lot.

It mean that every time I save my map in SF, I loose all my sounds and map size grows up 3 or 4 times for some reason.

Are you kidding me? I can always use an editor that doesn't screw with my sounds and map.

Face it Insane, the SF era is gone.

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And technically just saving your map in SF minory corrupts your map already. It creates the bug in SE and SCXE where it shows that you cannot save.

But SE and SCXE are more useless than sf because you can still open your map with sf than do other stuff with SCMD if you choose to and it will still work

Alot of things in sf are easier to use in my opinion too

wow, how can people be so dumb to never stop editor bashing?

hypocrite

Wow am I glad I have somewhat-dropped-out of this whole editor mess. Who cares what one has more features? The last thing this community needs to get is competitive on "whats better". Use what you are best with and what suits you. That simple, stop arguing.
Funny...my major push into programming was to make a starcraft editor. However once I had the skills to pull it off, I no longer wanted to make it.

i can't open the maps i make on scmdraft
i made sure that i saved in starcraft maps also!!