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Earth has a billion amount of population of human beings around the world. Eventually, humanity will have our system occupied by humans with billion amount of population per planet but people think that if we meet an alien, we'll be highly inferior. Games like Mass Effect, Halo 3 and StarCraft gave me the idea to make this topic. In the Halo Universe, the UNSC have invented a slipspace which is faster-than-light than can go through Mars which they eventually went on to 2552 and got into a Halo Ring which we invaded first than Aliens on Earth. In StarCraft, they've mentioned about faster-than-light as well so they went beyond and met the Protoss and the Zerg but compared to technology and military (Protoss and Terran), it seemed Protoss is superior on technology but the Terran is more superior on Combat Infantry while the Zerg on the other hand is all about using their brain to form into a building or a mutalisk. In Mass Effect, they also found a way to go in faster-than-light as well which they found in Mars which the Protheans left behind, they also found another artifact from another planet's moon. Those three games are really inventive, even how they manage to get on to another solar system.

If "faster-than-light" is the only way to get through planets, solar system, clusters and milky ways, what if the humans manages to get through population beyond limit where billions per planet and technology has upgraded where they can teleport and communicate (Although it seems impossible due to the atmosphere with AM and FM). There are chances in the future we'll eventually meet an alien, since 1960, there was a man on the moon which took several days and they tested everything from safety to landing but it depends if they actually "have to" be in a heavy suit or not but NASA is being extremely cautious. If we're going by Mars in 2028 (I assume it's a true date launch), they'll not only learn about safety and landing but miles per hour which they might test by going around the earth (in my oppinion). As a comparison from 1960 to 2028, that's impressive compared to the medieval times which took forever until they reached the New World known as America. If things are going on faster and faster, like Pixels to reality in Video Games or a 100 year of filming that came black and white scratched to high definition seems quite fast, but if we managed to get on Mars a success, we will eventually go on to other planets much faster although harder and farther.

Also, if Earth is going from stone age (8,000 BCE) to modern age (2,006 CE) may think it's slow but in BCE, for 8,000 years they're probably the same and from 0 - 1500s still shows the same medieval style of hack and slashing, compare those two "slow" things to 1700 - 2006 which is a whole lot faster from Gunpowder to Missles and Uniform Red and Blue to Camoflauge is quite fast, that means we're getting smarter every day. Technology right now shows mobile, phones, looks, construction and everything, although we're getting smarter, we will go beyond 7 Feet Tall, hairless and even bigger brain but eventually we'll invent hair and smaller brains (Yet as smart as big brains). Not only that, but we almost have a cure to everything from cancer to bloody wounds, eventually we'll have a cure for AIDS and HIV so I doubt Humans wouldn't go on for another thousand year, hell... what about beyond 8,000 years if we survived that long using stones and trees? If a virus is going to eliminate us, it'll have a cure. If an alien race is going to kill us, we'll wage war. If a moon is crashing onto Earth, we're already on Mars but I really doubt that would even happen.

If Aliens would wage war against humans, they may be superior or inferior on technology but they'll have to find a way to kill us than using their brain as a gravity gun. As said, Humans may be the same to them and we'll have to find a way as well and might use nuclear weapons if they have to. Sure, they got plasma guns and lasers but we have metal bullets than can be a lot more painful. As for I know, Plasma and Lasers just burns your skin but as for bullets, it can anhilate them for sure. We may have a better military support than them, for as we know that they might be unorganized have a different type where instead they have to do something else. As for aliens, they could be anything, they don't have to understand english to keep peace. Also, they might not use any guns at all. Not only, but we have Russia and Japan being competetive in Space but the US got there first, not only competetors but as allies. This may give me an idea from the game Supreme Commander which has three human races known as "UEF, Cybran and Aeon". Aeon could be part of Japan due to clean and neon looks, Cybran might be Russia which their voice can match their face (No offense) as well having dark version of US buildings and UEF came from US, not only they used "United", but they seem to have the dirty technology. They may be against each other on an infinite war, but they manage to control about nine planets within 2500 - 3800 year. It seems impossible to predict beyond 4000. But damn, we might as we be as old as dinosaurs.



People today may think about the future, but if humanity started off 8000 BCE and went on to 2006 which is 10,000 years, it could be possible we'll eventually go much beyond. We might as well team up with aliens going to our own milky way that controls clusters, which controls solar systems that controls Planets. For as well all know, what if our own milky way took over another one and kept on going?What do you think about the future of humanity?

Humanity has driven exponentially.

It was only a few hundred years ago where babies dying at birth were quite common. Now look at most developed nations where it's far from common. In the last 200 years look how far technology and life has advanced\changed. Once the industrial revolution took place... we have been rising exponentially in terms of technology. Humanity is exponentially rising in terms of technology. I can't even begin to imagine what the next 200 years will bring in store for us... in fact not even the next 20 years. Compare 1985 to 2005 and how much more advanced technology is. Compare large computers to the smaller and much more advanced computers of today.

It reminds me in Splinter Cell, you get to view cameras by watching in your wrist that can handle Night, Thermal and EMF vision which seems real as your actual eyes. I'm like "How is that possible" in the power of the wrist? People now-in day uses cellphones more than phones.

We're already onto contacts than glasses for style and comfort, eventually they'll try to prevent a way that it'll be impossible where a contact could slide off because I had a friend who said he heard somebody's contact slid the wall of his eye to the back and cut off his vision. Not only better contacts, but an invention to cure that as well. I see more success than fail, there was actually no war when the United States DID lose to. We're already using airplanes than trains to travel, and Airplanes from the inside is already paradise from a High-Definition Television to a luxurious restroom (Like futuristic).

As you mentioned 1985, that's pretty much in the Hi-Fi era, 20 years later, we're up into Wi-Fi era. Later, I bet there will never be any more phonelines in the street anymore. Although we're already using cars the pollutes the environment, there are already some cars that is air-friendly now. We'll eventually have a cool environment like that, but we'll still invent which is the thing I think humans can last another 10000 years.

I believe the next 2 or 1 world war is going to kill us all.
Why?

Because of a nuclear winter.

I don't know about anyone else, but I find it a little ironic that both your examples are sets of military inventions. So it sounds sort of like 'Hey, look, we invented a way to kill even more people at once! We must be really smart!'. Technically it makes sense, but it just looks ironic anyway.

Plasma and laser guns would be more deadly than they might sound. Remember, even with bullets, the real killing power is in the penetration, not the blunt force. A bullet to the head can easily kill you while getting hit with a baseball bat that might have the same momentum would be far less deadly. Lasers basically improve on bullets the same way bullets improved on baseball bats.

Hmm...

First off, I'll have to say that your view is a little too much like science fiction stories. That is to say, it assumes that technology will stop advancing as it nears the point where present-day humans would be unable to understand it, and stay there. So we go out and conquer the Milky Way and the rest of the Universe in Star Trek-like spaceships flown by human pilots.

If history has anything to teach us, it's that the opposite is much more likely to be the case. If technology is allowed to improve as it has been for another hundred years or more, our civilization may become completely unrecognizable. Rather than patrolling the galaxy in giant metal battleships covered in laser cannons, I foresee a future where we'd be more likely to have converted the entire galaxy into an enormous sphere of quantum computer circuits expanding at the speed of light, inhabited by a giant and extremely intelligent entity that is the result of all humans combining their minds together. Or for that matter, maybe we will have found ways to go faster than light and be inhabiting the entire universe. Or maybe we will have found a way to get into an alternate universe which is more useful for us, and abandoned this one completely (this particular scenario would go a long way towards explaining the Fermi Paradox!).

Personally, I don't think a nuclear winter is all that likely. It's harder than you'd think to keep dust up in the air long enough to change the climate. Remember, volcanos have put lots of dust up there in the past, and so far it seems they haven't caused any problems humans couldn't survive through.

A future possibility is that a contact lens would just be liquid stuff put onto an eye. I just can't wait for more efficient power and the super-conductors used in house appliances.

green_meklar, there are chances if bullets are stronger than laser, if the "Firing" turns blue than its original color orange, yellow and red, it'll be a alot more deadly. It can probably push in shotgun shells as a regular bullet but with the same damage as a shotgun, and it could go further like a Sniper.

As in "smart", we mean new things each time. People right now thinks the US is getting dumb by invading Iraq or how people are getting fatter everyday. Although the US is invading Iraq, we didn't even use any nuclear weapons or bombs against them, they're just patrolling for President Bush's theory of weapons of mass destruction, or the second idea is for oil. President Bush may be an idiot, but he used to be a Luitenent working for the army, he probably found some weapons over by Iraq when his dad or Clinton was president while in 1993. But as for I know, he's been in the Vietnam war, not in Iraq so I don't know.

For future fiction, we don't need BattleShips patrolling in space, there could be "Space Defense Platform" per planet. I doubt huge BattleShips would patrol though, if they have, they might as welll have camera support and every angle and spot incase there are invaders.


JordanN_3335, if nuclear winter could wipe us out, as I mentioned about "Mars", they can't literally take us out. But there are small chances nuclear winter could ever happen because we've already taken out the nuclear weapons, and we're about to remove Korea's, yet again.

Uh...I'm not sure what you mean here. Are you talking about using the laser to propel the bullet? Or merely using high-frequency lasers rather than low-frequency ones?

You know the bad thing about a space platform? It doesn't move, or at least, it always moves in the same orbit. That makes it a very easy target. Also, putting any kind of military spaceship or space station all compact in one place is asking for trouble. I'd take a guess that in terms of space defense, we'd more likely to have very sparse spaceships, built like giant latticeworks or sails hundreds of kilometers across; this way you avoid the problem of getting your entire ship blown up by one small projectile. If the ships were compact, then they would have to move about randomly in order to keep the enemy from predicting where it will be and hitting it from a long ways off.

Why would aliens want to kill us? There is nothing that can be gained from destroying another species. I hear a whole lot more about how we wish there were exstint species still alive then how we wish there were more dead. (Although withquantity of toxins we produce, I might be wrong on this point... ) I'm sure aliens would have at least had some contact with other beings exstinction. (Either that or they are already a have peace loving group who promotes the survival of all beings, in which case it still doesn't equal war.)

That just sounds dangerous. If anything we should simply stimulate and build the muscles for focusing.

And about lasers as weapons. The entire reason they were proposed in the first place was not to kill more people, but simply as a non-lethal way to stop assaults.
Heck if the army really wanted to, they could use a certain frequency of sound, broadcast loud enough, and exterminate any living creature withing a 60 mile radius. But the point of weapons after nuclear bombs has steered away from simple killing, and toward preventing conflict. Which is what the army is there for.


Also, about the weapons of the future...
After we pass through a period where all feild combat is done with machines, and the population of each nation doesn't really get involved in the conflicts of ideas. Then the idea of war will no longer be important and will be more like a spectator sport. People will still have problems but they will be solved through diplomacy, and by a checkbook.

You know how blue fire is much more dangerous than red fire? It can be more affective on weapons that can cause higher amount of bullets per second.


You may be right, but the military can predict where they would land. First, is the cities which the space platform can orbit right ontop of the atmosphere of the specific cities. Second, depending by the four seasons of Spring, Summer, Fall and Winter, the space platform can orbit to a specific spot facing Mars and the other planets otherwise it'll take a while for aliens to orbit around the space platforms. So it's either you get a long safe for an invasion, or you can get there faster but more of a dangerous route.

lasers arent fire and i think that it would be more effective with laser because it will be more powerful then the bullet; theoratically, since continuous fire in one spot may cause more damage then one impact over many different spaces.

I'd rather go with ground turrets that can shoot far into space with a planetary shield. space stations should just have alot of weapons, and space to dock ships and refuel them and have them fit in good conditions. Also, space stations for defense wouldn't be a bad idea if it had fodders and fleets that can cover it. Since space stations are likely to be larger than ships and it could hold higher power and more shield, weaponary then normal ships. It would be more effective.
Also, it is space. A mere off shot could miss by hundreds of kilometers.

In the future, the possibilities will be that we won't be using a lot of projectile weaponaries. We will highly be likely to use Laser, Plasma, Radiative weapons.

As Rantent mentioned, Lasers is non-lethal, if it were lethal, they would've used in the military by now. What I said about laser, is that is burns your skin but for bullets, it rips your skin and goes through organs. Laser is made for metal and shield, you'll never see somebody get killed by laser except James Bond who saved himself. While laser burns your skin, it's more efficient to melt metal and disable shields. That's why you'll find laser to open locked doors. Plasma is just the same, it's just like laser except much stronger but it's only in the future. Radioactive is just dangerous, it can cause disease, that's why it's only on nuclear weapons for now but they remove nuclear weapon threats in the 50's or 60's. Soon, we'll remove Korea's nuclear threat again. Radioactive weapons is impossible, it could not only kill enemies, but you're not immune to it.

Where do you get your weed?
I can barely understand what you're saying. English not your first language?
I don't know what the topic is either...

Where do we get these? I would LOVE to see a man still living who got his body cut in half with a laser cutter or get burned by a torch. We're talking about the future. The Millitary has problems with laser not being consistant over distances. And for plasma, they can't even shoot it far portably since it requires a fast plasma acceleration for it to reach the target before it dissipates, or a magnetic field surrounding the plasma.
Body cells are extreamly weak to heat.

Weed? What makes you think to go off-topic and point out weed? "English not your first language?" seemed like it wasn't you first language, it's "Is english your first language or not?" Why don't you read, before placing a stupid pointless annoying message? Is that why you don't know what the topic is all about? "I don't know what the topic is either..." is also said wrong, it's "I don't even know what the topic is about". I'm not calling you a hypocrite, but what's the point of you pointing that out?

All that I'm asking, what is the point putting that post up if you're just asking for trouble? Second, why do you judge by my typing when you seem like you have bad grammer as well? Third, it seemed like somebody told you to do this as if they don't want to get involved. Fourth, how did "weed" get into this topic? Are you saying that everybody takes weed?

To let you know, don't argue with me otherwise I'll just report you as soon as possible. I'm not going to waste my time on you, nor DEAD.

EDIT: I can see how you mentioned weed from your profile and avatar title, but how could you be a moderator? Weed can take away brain cells, each time you smoke, it takes away ten minutes of your life. If you warn me for this, then that's sad.



I doubt laser would cut people in half, there is a laser eye surgery that doesn't literaly burn but it makes your eyes feel like sands. And people has a belief that laser can slice a person in half, but as mention it just burns and it's a lot more efficient on metal. The military uses lasers, but it's more like the "remote" laser, it's non-lethal and it's more like pointing to a television. But if it were lasers in the future, they may use it as lethal weapons but it's main ideal is to burn and melt metal like sealed doors. Plasma doesn't exist yet, but in my oppinion, it's more like a laser projectile.

Explain hunting.
What if they need our planet's resources?

I'm not gonna worry about the future in the sense you guys are.

I got a good laugh when I was learning about alcohol fermentation. The yeast eat so much sugar and produce so much alcohol that they actually create an environment they can't live in. Sounds familiar.

But hey! The dinosaurs lived a million years!
They also didn't change the atmosphere so they get intense UV light, unbreatheable air, a hotter climate and higher sea levels. We're doomed unless we get started on better environmental programs.

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Lmao, I didn't say weed was bad. It was a joke, I thought it was funny the way you described a future.

Report me for what? I was, indeed, wondering whether or not english was your first language, because many who learn it as a second language speak the way you typed.
You're right, I left out the word, 'about'. But either way I wasn't sure because you guys were all over the place about technology I had no idea what the basis of the discussion (or the point) was.

If they needed our planet's resources like water and oxygen, we might need their planet's resource as well for specific purposes like replacing oil in cars.


That's true, it's like how some people eat a lot of food and leaves leftovers and waste, eventually it'll become a pile of garbage on the floor which they can't stand the stench of the smell and the looks of the dirty environment. That's why national parks are being cleaned up so that litters won't affect the environment.


They did live for millions of years with a whole different weather and environment than us, that's why it seemed most of them look like gigantic reptiles in some random color like purple. We'll have a better environment in the future, sooner or later that they will eventually remove the pile of wasteland. If humans survived without breathable air, we would looked quite different on looks and different ways how we could eat. But we're talking about humanity in the future, what you you see humans in the future?

Just an FYI, that's an incorrect usage of the word 'even' if you're gonna be so picky.

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The future? Well, I guess I'm kinda starting to like this, my fault for before. I see where we're getting at.
Humans are probably gonna follow the same pattern for years, wars over religion, struggle for power, and all that jazz.

Humans could infact become a united entity and work together to create a safe way to live without fear of war or environmental problems. Humans, as I see it, won't get to the point where we can efficiently live on other planets or systems. I highly doubt there is anyway to go fast or accurately enough to go far.

We probably won't evolve dramatically either, we'll make technology work for us. If anything our bodies will go backwards a bit.

Sorry, I still don't get what you mean. Are you even talking about lasers at all?

This presents a lot of problems. To begin with, in most cases turrets on the ground are rather ineffective. Projectiles have to spend a lot of energy climbing out of the planet's gravity well, and if the planet has an atmosphere then that would diffuse the lasers as they pass through it on their way to space. Also, the turrets are much easier to hit from space than a randomly moving spaceship.

As for planetary shields, so far we don't have any idea of how to build such a device. A better idea would probably be to put up interceptor turrets to shoot down incoming projectiles, and possibly block lasers as well. Again, these interceptor turrets could also be placed in space, although it isn't quite as necessary as with the main defensive turrets.

So far I haven't heard of any way to actually make a plasma weapon. And as for lasers, they can be blocked with mirrors (of course the mirrors may not reflect visible light, they just have to reflect whatever kind of laser is being used on them). Projectiles don't have either of these disadvantages, and while they're easier to intercept than lasers are, they can still move very fast, plus they can carry a lot more energy than a laser so that you only need to hit once.

The other problem is that they're just plain heavy. With current technology, a laser gun the size of a standard issue assault rifle would not be nearly powerful enough to kill someone. The laser devices they've been experimenting with for placing in modified 747s and shooting down missiles are enormous, they take up most of the inside of the plane.

There are plenty of other, uninhabited planets out there for them to take. They don't need ours in particular.

Except that no one really knows what color they were, because for the most part their skin hasn't survived.

Hunting is not simply killing of another species until it no longer exists. It must be balanced, just like you cannot have too many predators in an ecosystem, or the system will face a collapse.

Even if the aliens needed to eat us for food, they would not eat all of us at once, because... Well they would be out of food afterwards...

Did you even read my post? I said they made them non-lethal because we already have enough lethal weapons on the planet. They would be more effective then bullets, but right now we have so many more gun then lasers it is nonsensical to switch. Not to mention that missiles > either lasers or bullets. (Although lasers > missiles when vs missiles. )

National parks are being cleaned up because some animals are eating the garbage and chocking/dieing on trash we leave.

Why would we want to live on a cold dead planet. If anything, we'll probably end up making a mars habitat, then realize mars is just one big desert. Everyone will come home, and we'll end robots to go and collect the solar systems resources for us.

Uhh... You don't even make any sense. Black laser would obviously be much stronger then any other laser because it is really focused. It would be like that laser thing from Star Wars except faster and stronger. Black lasers would replace guns because they would just be so powerfull. Blue lasers is just ridiculous when we already have the technology for black lasers.
No, I've seen many people die from lasers. That's why you have to be really carefull with laser eye surgery or it just burns through your head and you die. Lasers can move really fast too so they would shoot faster than bullets and go everywhere and burn through everything. Plasma might bounce around and it is more dangerous and can kill allied forces, so maybe we wont use it. Radiative weapons are just too strong, they can cause cancer and I don't think we will use them.

We are already facing that crisis. The predators = The humanity.


But light doesn't darken when it gets mixed. It becomes brighter when more of it are mixed. And light always travel at the same speeds in a same environment.

Typically, a laser MAY become a plasma weapon since you cannot see even laser. Except that it burns the air around it to glow. So you wont be able to see laser in space. For pure plasmatic weapons, it won't 'bounce around' It's gas. It wont bounce. Plasmas naturally dissipate after contacting a magnetic field. But strangely, only contacts from outside does that. From the inside, it helps sustain it.
And radiative weapons wont just cancer. Thats low-frequency high exposure of X-rays. If you talk about high frequency gamma rays, your body would practically fall apart.


since there wont be enough space on Earth in the future. Theres always terraformation. In the future, there might be a way to travel to other systems. Colonizing it on a habitable planet.

Have you ever watched the Time Machine? I just hope we wont do anything stupid like to destroy our own moon.

1. Artificial shelters.
2. Terraforming.
3. Pantropy.

wtf? Where?

I assumed he was talking about ultraviolet lasers. 'Black light' is a common term for an ultraviolet light bulb.

The Time Machine scenario with the moon breaking apart is extremely unlikely. In fact, besides the time machine itself, it was about the least scientific thing in the entire movie.

Actually I was just kidding.