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I was recently watching this video on google video called "Loose Change". I got into it and started to really get my mind changed about the whole 9/11 thing. Was it really set up by our government or was it really a terrorist attack? If you havn't seen the video I recommend you watch it.

Loose Change

I think that video is leftist propaganda. Personally, my politics do lean to the left, but what kind of government scheme could be unraveled by a couple of college students?

Pretty much my thoughts on it:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

Here is an updated version of Loose Change.

Loose Change (updated)

ADDITION:
It is possible that Loose Change might be fake or maybe some guy who is inlove with bush and our government and decided to fight against it...you never know

Interesting Fact: My birthday is on 9/11.

Personally I decided to not take sides on wether the US did plan it or didn't plan it. But both sides of information have a pretty good argument. Maybe this kid is pissed at what happen and doesn't like our government and decided to blame the US, or he just decided to make a video to mess with our heads and try to turn us against our government. If the US does have something to do with what happen on 9/11 then I would not be surprised in any way. If they didn't, well at least we accomplished arresting a dictator and shooting rag heads. But as I said I won't take sides, but I will argue against both sides.

I don't like the way the federal government has handled anything in the past couple of years.
That being said, our government officials were probably not directly involved with the attack, but most definitely the source of it. (Which is actually not stating any real opinion, because I could not care less.)

Maddox knows best. The only the thing I don't understand is why people are saying a plane, commercial aircraft or whatever didnt crash into the towers and the pentegon. This new student in my class is saying that because he had done a 5 page report on it and got an 90%.

Well, I'm not sure exactly who did it, but the circumstances are certainly quite suspicious. At the very least, I suspect that the american government was aware about the attacks beforehand and simply decided not to stop them. Whether the attacks were carried out by american or israeli operatives, and whether the World Trade Center was rigged with explosives beforehand, isn't clear. I think the one thing we can say for sure here is that truth is stranger than fiction, and if it ever gets out there are going to be a lot of surprised people around the world.

I don't really see september 11th as that big a deal, i've heard opinions that the government set it up, others say that terrorists did it. Bottom line is it happened and it's time to get over it.

*hint towards the whole hosting this topic when it's been over 5 years since it happened*

That video is utter bullcrap. The only things that may be almost believable would be what truly crashed into pentagon and did our government already know this was going to happen. But still nonetheless they're still bullcrap.

Seriously, what is this world coming to? People just love making stupid conspiracies and brainwashing others into joining their cause. They've even made one for the death of Princess Diana; i was like omg...

*off topic*
my step sisters and step mom have met princess diana.

That was on TV for years in england, I liked princess diana, can't remember why -- but I did.

The video does have some good evidence but whos to say if its true or not...Personally I think it might be true because it all ties in together...If it isnt true that guy should write a movie because thats a good story

The evidence in that video is horrible.

The only things that were suspicious was the government's refusal to release the tapes for the Pentagon and the little stuff coming out of the Towers during the collapse (I couldn't find any counter-arguments for it).

This deserves a place in my signature.

You can say that almost about a lot of tragedies/disasters. Like the Kursk (I hope it's written like this) submarine.

Why?

There can be three major possibilities:

• The government does not know about the attacks, thus fails to prevent them.
• The government knows about the attacks, but takes no action to prevent them. This scenario is just as bad as the first.
• The government knows about the attacks, and is trying to prevent them. Now, we have two possibilities:
  • The terrorists are stopped before they take over the planes. The best possible case.
  • The terrorists manage to take over the planes, but the government destroys the planes before they reach their desination. All who were on board are dead, and those who were on the ground where the planes fell are also dead. This will, of course, make the government look bad, but it's much better than letting the planes crash into the twin towers.

So by your logics, the government chose the worst case. Damn the dovernment is stupid.

I recommend YOU watch footage of the attacks.

I had some really good ones that clearly show it's planes, but I can't find them. Just don't go looking on YouTube, it's full of idiots and bad videos.

Actually, I consider the fact that no other steel-based building had ever collapsed as the result of a fire to be much more important than 'little stuff coming out of the towers'.

The worst case for who?

It's pretty clear that the World Trade Center towers were in fact by airplanes. The questions are who was piloting those airplanes, whether the Pentagon was also hit by an airplane, and whether the airplanes were the reason for the towers' collapse.

Well the only thing i would say is if the government did it they need to go to the nuthouse

The government itself, and the people who died... and USA.

What could the government gain from not taking any action? Your suspicion lacks motive.

Ok, I know I could clearly see that the World Trade Centers' did get hit by planes but what I'm really trying to imply is that maybe the Pentagon was set up by the US or something else just hit it because clearly you can see that a 100ft wide plane did not make a small ass hole like that. Thats my argument. Maybe the WTCs did come down because of the planes who knows but if it did come down by controlled demolition, and WTC 7 aswell, then the government has something to do with it. I just think no one will ever really know the truth. The only ones that really do know is the government.

By the way, I brought this back up because maybe people may need to realize something and to just bring up some of the past and so you can see how good of a job our current president is doing ( i'm being sarcastic just incase you didn't know ).

The people who died? Sure. The country as a whole? Sure. The government? Now that's a different matter. If they wanted an excuse to start invading various middle eastern countries and capturing the oil, 9/11 provided an excellent opportunity for them. And in the meantime they wouldn't necessarily suffer very much financially; in fact, with properly placed investments they could make a fortune off the destruction of the World Trade Center. I'm not at all sure the government didn't have a motive to allow the attacks to happen (or carry them out).

Actually, I believe Larry Silverstein publicly admitted that Building 7 was demolished deliberately, supposedly in order to keep the fire from spreading to other nearby buildings.

What I'm going to say is just a matter of perception, and you may not agree with me:

Such acts of terror were not necessary. You can find a much smaller target, that will make enough fuss and noise to do the job. Examaple: a school with children.

I'm not at all sure of that. For something like this, you really want the event to stick in people's minds, so it has to be big (and preferably spectacular). Something like 'Remember the Lincoln Elementary School massacre?' just isn't as effective as 'Remember the 9/11 attacks?'. Also, I don't know if you noticed but they made a point of comparing it to the Pearl Harbor attack, which would have been impossible for something as small as a school getting blown up.

Have you heard about the trerrorists' attack on a school in Bislan? That was something that people won't forget for a long time. But that's all about what you percieve to be "serious."

But let's get to the root of it: your idea is that it was an excuse for invading Iraq. You can find other excuses. Many countries attacked many other countries without such "serious" excuses. And remember, that the official goal was to take down Saddam, who isn't (now wasn't) the number one symbol of terrorism.

This explains how/why the twin towers fell.

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Only reason people made this 9/11 conspiracy is because of their blind, bitter hatred towards Bush and his Iraq War; they needed a scapegoat to vent out all their anger.. that's pretty much it. I myself do not like what Bush has done, but I wouldn't go as far as to shove away all my logical thinking skills to brainwash myself into believing the unreal.