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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lyon on 2007-01-11 at 15:16:47

QUOTE(S)T-Twitch6000)

Well dude its not funny when someone comes and stills your triggers or your whole map and just adds a few things and changes name then says made by them.
Thats just messed up.thats why we need csmap.

I Just really have to ask everyone:
How many maps have actually been stolen by OSMAp? I can't think of one off the top of my head so why do we make a big deal about it?

QUOTE(Laser_Dude)

Closed source Mapping? This is ridiculous, this is turning into a pro life vs. pro choice argument...

I Don't really like agreeing with random people who i've never even talked to nor met, but he's kind of right. It's getting stupid when people run around saying "OMG U R B MADE OSMAP WE BAN YOU FROM SITE!!" which is sort of what happened with LW when he announced that he made osmap.

Well, i'm not really getting anywhere, am i? So i'll close it up quickly.

This is silly making a big, no, HUGE deal about the whole "Omg my maps gonna get stolen!!" thing. Could we take it down a notch on the completely insane scale when it comes to starcraft mapping? Thanks.

-Lyon

Report, edit, etc...Posted by NerdyTerdy on 2007-01-11 at 15:24:50

They didn't do anything near ban him, they removed his global mod position. I know that wasn't really in the rules, but I would rather not be have decisions made towards whether or not I should be warned by the guy who made OSMap :\, different ideas. I suppose a lot of people are taking it a bit far, myself included, but if we manage to stop OSMap it'll be a victory.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2007-01-11 at 15:26:51

Interesting words from a map stealer. lyon...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by S)T-Twitch6000 on 2007-01-11 at 16:06:33

Well the only reason why I spread the csmap rumor is if it does work which i hope it does we wont have to worry about our maps getting rigged or stolen.And for a stolen map by osmap cerebrates was one.Ofcourse we can calm down about it until csmap is done.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2007-01-11 at 16:47:12

QUOTE(NerdyTerdy @ Jan 11 2007, 03:24 PM)

A global mod being demoted to a member is tantamount to a member being banned. Yes, it will be a victory. For close-mindedness.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2007-01-11 at 17:01:06

Syphon, and anybody else form maplantis.. do you edit maps using OSMAP? Do you learn from maps using OSMAP? Does anyone in clan(U) or maplantis use OSMAP to edit maps or learn?...

Nobody here is against open map making. Make your maps open as much as you want. Why do you want my maps to be open?..

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lyon on 2007-01-11 at 17:25:59

QUOTE(Gigins @ Jan 11 2007, 04:26 PM)

Interesting words from a map stealer. lyon...

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QUOTE(S)T-Twitch6000 @ Jan 11 2007, 05:06 PM)

Just a quick question, CSMAp isn't actually a real program that someone made to close maps or anything. Right? Cause i've just been seeing people talk about it, i've never really seen anyone talk about having it or using it.

QUOTE(Gigins @ Jan 11 2007, 06:01 PM)

Syphon is part of maplantis? O_O

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xx.Doom.xX on 2007-01-11 at 17:30:41

Ok, one thing DEAD, we do use OSMAP to edit maps to make them better. Alot of maps were protected even before OSMAP, so we use it as a tool to get past it so we can edit it. Maplantis just doesn't open maps for the heck of it. Besides, no one wants to open or edit your map.

Anyways, barely anyone knows about OSMAP on b.net, just mostly people from here and maybe a some other places do, and there has been about none maps stolen with OSMAP. What's the risk? I'm not telling you not protect your map and leave them open, I repeat I'm not saying that, but really, you shouldn't be afraid of it.

QUOTE(S)T-Twitch6000)

And for a stolen map by osmap cerebrates was one

1. Oh god one map. Everyones going to die.
2. Wait, "celebrate"? People of maplantis and LW and MA are celebrating that? Are you joking? You'll never learn the real reason for OSMAP, I've quit telling people it (And Maplantis' rules). You just don't understand.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lyon on 2007-01-11 at 17:33:07

QUOTE(Xx.Doom.xX @ Jan 11 2007, 06:30 PM)

You'll never learn the real reason for OSMAP, I've quit telling people it (And Maplantis' sucks*). You just don't understand.
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I can take a swipe at it. Cause i'm not as blindsighted as everyone else. The real reason for OSMAp is simply for editing purposes of maps which belong to the person who is using OSMAp, to re-open the maps he himself protected and either lost/didn't make a backup file.

Lyon wins! XD

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)Excalibur on 2007-01-11 at 17:37:28

QUOTE(Lyon @ Jan 11 2007, 05:33 PM)

No lyon doesnt win. And neither does the mapping community so long as OSMAP can continue what it was built to do.

I dont support open or closed mapping.

I support choice.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2007-01-11 at 17:39:33

By "my maps" I mean any maps protected on purpose... Make your own maps to edit. I(metaphor) make my maps the way I want them to be, it's my work, my creation. Create something yourself...

Why cant you be just an open mapmaking community. Release and edit maps open source already. Why do you have to go against the authors and edit their maps without permission? Whats the damn big benefit there to forget about respect/moral against map authors?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)Excalibur on 2007-01-11 at 17:45:41

I think what bothers me most about the entire subject of protection and unprotection is the arguements over it.

If you want to not protect your map, thats fine. Just like you can kill yourself if you want to.
But dont tell me what to do with my map. Dont tell me to jump off a building because you think its a good idea. And dont push me off of that building when i dont want to.

Im not saying its such a serious matter as life and death for one. I didnt intend it to sound that way but from experiance i can say people on SEN like to twist eachothers words to make it seem like the arguement will make a difference.

And heres the sad unrealized truth:
Your arguement in a thread with someone wont change anything.

Your not going to make them change their choice on mapping. They arguing back will not change yours. Itll go on till the thread is locked and nothing will be solved. Its just arguing that acheieves nothing. No ones mind is change, the situation remains the same.

Stop acting like a thread arguement is the deciding factor in the entire issue. It isnt.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xx.Doom.xX on 2007-01-11 at 17:48:31

QUOTE(Gigins)

Why cant you be just an open mapmaking community. Release and edit maps open source already. Why do you have to go against the authors and edit their maps without permission? Whats the damn big benefit there to forget about respect/moral against map authors?

First off, maplantis is an open mapmaking community, if you haven't noticed and were talking to maplantis people. Second, who said we're going against the author? What if the author doesn't play anymore? What if more can be achieved with the map by editing it? I'm sure if anyone edits a map, and the author wants the edit to be deleted, we'll be sure to do that.
Also, I want to point this out. We don't even write in a edited map
"Made By MapCreator
Edited By Editor"
We all mostly will just leave the Made By there and not write our names and whatnot about editing.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2007-01-11 at 17:52:35

The author protected the map for a reason. Whatever he left or not, his reason stays, so you go against him. Besides if he left then the map must be old and can be remade into much better version.

» Involves more mapping
» Less disaccord

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lyon on 2007-01-11 at 18:00:24

QUOTE(Mp)Excalibur @ Jan 11 2007, 06:45 PM)

I Don't know if you've realized this or not, but no one is really paying attention to your very long "This is why you're retarded" posts. Please discontinue making them.

-Lyon

QUOTE(Xx.Doom.xX @ Jan 11 2007, 06:48 PM)

Also, I want to point this out. We don't even write in a edited map
"Made By MapCreator
Edited By Editor"
We all mostly will just leave the Made By there and not write our names and whatnot about editing.
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You don't write in the edited map, you don't even tell the creator that you've edited it, nor do you ask for their permission. From my expert experiences in this area. That sounds just like map stealing!

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xx.Doom.xX on 2007-01-11 at 18:06:04

Not really, it's far different. Editing a map and stealing it is completely different. Map stealing would be taking out the authors name everywhere to be found, show it to the mapmaking community and telling up a lie that you made a new version or something. Editing a map for Maplantis at least is a good thing. To make the map more fun to a player. Now if the map is already fun, and is a classic and will always be played, there's really no need to be editing that map.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by EcHo on 2007-01-11 at 18:35:33

This isnt really a big deal. Heres the point. People copywrite things right? Like they own things they make? It's exactly the same as choice protection. The map maker has a right of protecting the map if they want because they made it. They probably wouldnt like someone who downloaded a unprotecter to just unprotect and slap their name into the map when they didnt do anything. Why are you guys even complaining? If you dont like protecting, just dont do it. No one is forcing you to PROTECT YOUR MAP.

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Sowwy Lyon ;-;

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